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Post by Feezou on Feb 28, 2017 11:12:16 GMT -5
So recently, I've been experiencing some problems with my Rhino. I normally last way longer in my Griffin. But the Rhino has a shield and can go twice as fast with Assualt mode. My Rhino has two Tarans, and two Magnums. My Griffin has a Russian DB. Should I reconfigure my loadouts? Or should I use one bot more than the other. I know that the Griffin sports more health, and is faster, though their hard points are the same.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 11:19:55 GMT -5
A Rhino is better than the Griffin until the 350K damage mark. The the Griffin is better.
I prefer a Plasma Rhino over a Plasma Griffin, but a Death Button Griffin more than a Death Button Rhino.
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Post by cypho on Feb 28, 2017 12:02:20 GMT -5
You are inevitably going to get a mix of answers here as it depends on your play style.
Personally, I have a Rhino but don't use it much as I find it cumbersome and wasn't patient enough to master it - plenty of others have and use it effectively. I use a Griffin, with Pinatas and Orkans. If you can master the jump ability this setup can be a real winner. Mine has level 10 weapons, which I think equates to a little over 110k of damage and you can be back behind cover before much if any reply comes your way.
Yesterday I took a look at the setups of a bunch of Champions league top players and they were all heavily weighted towards griffins and lancelots - make of that what you will; perhaps Darkangel is right in his earlier post - lower down the tiers Rhino's can be more effective but as you go up, Griffins take over; I don't have the experience with the Rhino to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 14:08:39 GMT -5
My conclusions on benching Rhino, and I do like my rhino a lot, but:
1) Running in a straight line towards a distance beacon, Griffin's jump helps it keep pace with Rhinos charge. So Rhino is still faster, but not 100% faster. Its a closer race than you would think.
2) When facing rockets, Rhino is going to eat them. Nothing you can do. Griffin can jump out of the kill box.
3) Griffin can hide behind cover, jump straight up, and deliver a rocket payload, Taran burst, or Aphid toss onto target. Rhino forces you into LOS in order to engage, where #2 above can (and usually will) occur.
Many great Rhino drivers out there can advocate the Rhino's greatness, but for my play style, #1-#3 above make Griffin the better choice.
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Post by mijapi300 on Feb 28, 2017 14:21:18 GMT -5
Rhino is a bot you have to master for it to be better than the Griff. And even then, because it's less mobile than a Griff, it has a disadvantage in many scenarios. The most interesting loadout I've seen is Hydra/Magnum for a Rhino. There is a video on this that demonstrates how to use it effectively and it's pretty cool. You won't get top damage, but you'll be effective and impact the game with it.
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Post by ewing411 on Feb 28, 2017 16:19:12 GMT -5
<snip> My Rhino has two Tarans, and two Magnums. My Griffin has a Russian DB. Should I reconfigure my loadouts? Or should I use one bot more than the other. <snip> With those options it looks pretty optimal to me. I wouldn't RDB a Rhino, ever. There are a few talented people who could pull it off. Damage dealing seems to be the current meta so odds are the Griffin should be used more. Bring out the Rhino when when you need a Fire Engine. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 28, 2017 16:46:37 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup in top tier. Rhino > Griffin with Plasma and Orkan/Magnums in the lower tiers.
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Post by Feezou on Mar 1, 2017 11:05:52 GMT -5
<snip> My Rhino has two Tarans, and two Magnums. My Griffin has a Russian DB. Should I reconfigure my loadouts? Or should I use one bot more than the other. <snip> With those options it looks pretty optimal to me. I wouldn't RDB a Rhino, ever. There are a few talented people who could pull it off. Damage dealing seems to be the current meta so odds are the Griffin should be used more. Bring out the Rhino when when you need a Fire Engine. Should I level up my Rhino? It doesn't have that much health, so often when I pull out my Tarans, I end up soaking up much more fire with my hull than my shield. Any tactics I could use against certain targets? |
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Post by ewing411 on Mar 1, 2017 17:15:32 GMT -5
Should I level up my Rhino? It doesn't have that much health, so often when I pull out my Tarans, I end up soaking up much more fire with my hull than my shield. Any tactics I could use against certain targets? Yes Sir, level that baby to 9 if you are serious. It's a two trick pony and going less then 50km/h with the sails out is half the tricks. Stat wise the Rhino is actually more tanky than the Griffin. Although a well fitted knife fighter doesn't care, double teaming do not care, even faster lone opponents do not care if they can just corner shoot you and draw out the timer. People pick Griffins over Rhinos for the same reason they skipped Leos. I do not play a Taran Rhino so take any tactical advice with a grain of sault. Plasma's strong-points are when outside 300m of high damage rocket punks and tracking fast targets (ground or aerial). Against heavy mid range: cover, avoid death or glory. Against shield and high damage rockets (well armed Pattons and Gepards): Keep at a distance, don't draw in, no soloing or retreat if you must. Against unknowns: Remember your weapon and movement limitations since most enemy mechs are going to have at least one major advantage on you so don't be the recon guy. |
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