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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:29:13 GMT -5
You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. Really? I have never really gotten this vibe from the forum or admins, and I run around saying lots of dumb stuff. Maybe I am not "edgy" enough. Either way, welcome to the forums!
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 27, 2017 19:34:03 GMT -5
Plainly said. You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. Interesting theory. Shall I re-quote all the posts that I've personally made ranting about Pixonic and their often dubious choices? Or the easy counter-point to your claims of evidence in the many quotes I could find from moderators where they lamented and denigrated Pixonic for various things? Or the plethora of threads that are outrageously insulting to Pixonic, and yet still open? Tell me, young lurker that knows people so well through the interface of plain text... How many accounts have been permanently banned since the forum's inception? How many accounts have been banned since Pixonic included this community forum in their blogs and posts? Now compare that to how many accounts have been added recently... Yeah, no, sorry, but the ban hammer hasn't been really used yet, and you appear to be fear-mongering, and adding just a dash of accusations of fascism and nepotism. See, this is a polarization fallacy, where you attempt to troll the general audience by attacking the integrity of the administration through various passive-aggressive means. Eventually your hope may be to start actual flame wars with outspoken members (read: forum warriors) like myself, and maybe even some of the moderators, which you would then manipulate into calls for resignation or whatever else drama you think you can get away with. It's also older than the millennium, so I'd suggest grinding your trolling skills on Facebook until you can achieve the next evolution of trolling, then come back here and see if anybody still cares. We won't. You wanna contribute something useful to the community, great! Please do so. But if all you want to do is be toxic, then I must fart in your general direction. Good day, sir.
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Post by lockslywr on Feb 27, 2017 19:37:34 GMT -5
You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. Really? I have never really gotten this vibe from the forum or admins, and I run around saying lots of dumb stuff. Maybe I am not "edgy" enough. Either way, welcome to the forums! It is my opinion and my opinion only. Unfortunately it is a the opinion of a lot of people who won't join this site for that exact reason. Thank you for the warm welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:55:46 GMT -5
lockslywr Well I personally don't receive any money from Pixonic, I give them a small amount each month. I can't ban anyone, which trust me, as an old redneck, parent and grandparent from the hills of Kentucky is a good thing. I am just trying to learn something and possibly help someone if I can. Oh, and hopefully provide a couple of chuckles along the way. I find it much easier to try and be positive, it's hard work to be negative and I gave that up when I retired. Could you just imagine me and DirtyLikaRat® as mods. Armageddon baby.
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Post by lockslywr on Feb 27, 2017 20:26:49 GMT -5
Plainly said. You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. Interesting theory. Shall I re-quote all the posts that I've personally made ranting about Pixonic and their often dubious choices? Or the easy counter-point to your claims of evidence in the many quotes I could find from moderators where they lamented and denigrated Pixonic for various things? Or the plethora of threads that are outrageously insulting to Pixonic, and yet still open? Tell me, young lurker that knows people so well through the interface of plain text... How many accounts have been permanently banned since the forum's inception? How many accounts have been banned since Pixonic included this community forum in their blogs and posts? Now compare that to how many accounts have been added recently... Yeah, no, sorry, but the ban hammer hasn't been really used yet, and you appear to be fear-mongering, and adding just a dash of accusations of fascism and nepotism. See, this is a polarization fallacy, where you attempt to troll the general audience by attacking the integrity of the administration through various passive-aggressive means. Eventually your hope may be to start actual flame wars with outspoken members (read: forum warriors) like myself, and maybe even some of the moderators, which you would then manipulate into calls for resignation or whatever else drama you think you can get away with. It's also older than the millennium, so I'd suggest grind your trolling skills on Facebook until you can achieve the next evolution of trolling, then come back here and see if anybody still cares. We won't. You wanna contribute something useful to the community, great! Please do so. But if all you want to do is be toxic, then I must fart in your general direction. Good day, sir. Not young but thank you for the compliment. Thank you for allowing me to make a comment on your "blog". Great observation on the passive - aggressive behaviour that I have tactfully integrated into my previous comments. However well written you think your reply may be, it only highlights out that an average member is reluctant to bring up a point that conflicts with yours. There are people who feel that expressing a point, that counters those controlling this site may meet with being censured. It doesn't matter how many people have been banned. I doesn't matter how many comments have or have not been deleted. It doesn't matter what you think oh mighty of protector of this blog site. It matters what your members think. It matters what a potential member thinks. You have members that think you are biased toward Pixonic and that their opinions are worthless. That is not me trolling your site. That is not me wishing to denounce any one person on a personal level like you just tried to do to me. That is me telling you that there is a perception, by quite a few people, that my comment has some validity. Perception is reality. Someone (me) has expressed an opinion supporting another member. Someone ( you) has attacked my opinion and has attacked me on a personal level. You think that you can decipher my intentions or my thoughts based on a few sentences. You are very special. I mean eating glue and blunt scissors classroom kind of special. Instead of attacking me for having an opinion on your "blog", perhaps you should go back into your mom's basement and contemplate my point of view. I assure you that I will take your point of view and contemplate it as well. You deserve that much consideration. For what it is worth.... you brought up a point or two that I did not consider prior to my original post. I will take those points and add them to my library. In the meantime, thank you for proving my point. You did a great job of showing your true colours.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 27, 2017 20:31:55 GMT -5
There is no "freedom of speech" here. Participation on this forum is a privilege not a right. The powers that be have made that abundantly clear. I am new here. I have been watching this little wiki site for over a year. I would have to give a solid 10/10 to this reference of rights and privileges. There always seems to be an underlying menace directed at those who wish to express an opinion outside those of the mods and administrators. Do I have proof? I could go track down dozens of interactions that I have witnessed but quite frankly don't have the time nor inclination to do so. Probably it is just better for me to say that I have been reluctant to join your happy little group for just that reason. Plainly said. You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. I hope this helps :-) You have your impressions and opinion...so I can't tell you you're wrong - only you can change your mind. I can only point to my experience as a gep driver. I reluctantly started posting here 8 months ago because as a lurker I saw a lot of opinions that I took as Pro-Pixo and anti-gep, including from the mods. I decided I needed to represent gep drivers more openly. While I was occasionally lambasted and disagreed with, I have been treated pretty fairly for the most part. With the new mm rollout, any semblance of being overly Pro-Pixo has vanished....the tone since January has been more negative to Pixo and this encompasses the time that Pixo officially acknowledged and provided links to this site. I think any post that is gracious towards Pixo stands in stark contrast to the many castigating Pixo both fairly and unfairly because of the less positive attitude many of us have towards the game now. I'm no Pixo lover, but I do see them trying to get better on the major things we complain about - communication, new maps, different rewards, etc. I just quuestion their competency at times on coding. and the mods have been pretty darn good throughout this entire experience on letting us voice opinions to the point where I even volunteered to become one because they seem pretty fair. And Even those top players who work with Pixo on the FB features like Adrian can be critical of the game and Pixo and it seems he has a lot of direct contact with them.
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Post by lockslywr on Feb 27, 2017 20:32:24 GMT -5
lockslywr Well I personally don't receive any money from Pixonic, I give them a small amount each month. I can't ban anyone, which trust me, as an old redneck, parent and grandparent from the hills of Kentucky is a good thing. I am just trying to learn something and possibly help someone if I can. Oh, and hopefully provide a couple of chuckles along the way. I find it much easier to try and be positive, it's hard work to be negative and I gave that up when I retired. Could you just imagine me and DirtyLikaRat® as mods. Armageddon baby. I can totally understand that my friend. I am an old retired Canuck and don't really want too much drama. But I think I have already headed down the wrong path....haha. oh well.
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 27, 2017 20:50:04 GMT -5
lockslywr Well I personally don't receive any money from Pixonic, I give them a small amount each month. I can't ban anyone, which trust me, as an old redneck, parent and grandparent from the hills of Kentucky is a good thing. I am just trying to learn something and possibly help someone if I can. Oh, and hopefully provide a couple of chuckles along the way. I find it much easier to try and be positive, it's hard work to be negative and I gave that up when I retired. Could you just imagine me and DirtyLikaRat® as mods. Armageddon baby. I can totally understand that my friend. I am an old retired Canuck and don't really want too much drama. But I think I have already headed down the wrong path....haha. oh well. Nah, you have an opinion. Nothing wrong with that. Welcome to the Forum!
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 27, 2017 20:50:07 GMT -5
However well written you think your reply may be, it only highlights out that an average member is reluctant to bring up a point that conflicts with yours. There are people who feel that expressing a point, that counters those controlling this site may meet with being censured. You have members that think you are biased toward Pixonic and that their opinions are worthless. I can completely see how new forum visitors can have that POV as I know I did when I started. There can be some group think exhibited with regulars on the forum because we have staked out positions and sometimes we pile onto each other expressing support....a newcomer would see that as being pounded in the ground. the only thing I can say in defense of the behavior you are pointing out are: 1. All of us have what we believe are the best interests of the game at heart, whether you agree or not 2. For as many contentious posts, there are many more helping others answering questions or providing guidance....so don't lose sight that the primary driver for many is to help others 3. The regulars have built a community and exhibit familiarity with each other as well as having seen lots of the same opinions....when a newcomer posts something that may be contentious it can be piledriven in the ground by regulars as it is not new to many of us....maybe seen as dismissive type responses. so thank you for sharing an observation that it can be intimidating to post here...it might be something to keep in mind for the future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 20:57:37 GMT -5
I’m sorry. I thought this thread was specifically titled “Bad Moderation” and therefore enabled discussion on said moderation. My attempt was simply to show an example to support the OP’s claim. Perhaps you could add a list of definitions to the code of conduct that defines “Mini-Modding” as there seems to be a lot of different thoughts on the matter. After all, most list of rules have a “Definitions” section to ensure everyone is on the same page. Oy, take off the martyr's cap, son. Nobody's telling you what you can and can't discuss. But I also have the same right as you to comment. As for clarifying the rules, happy to look into that for you if you find them unclear, confusing, or ambiguous. This is what I've mentioned before. Is being insulting, or being a SA good moderation?
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Feb 27, 2017 20:59:29 GMT -5
Plainly said. You all give off a vibe of people who are deep into Pixonic's pockets and use the threat of banning people if they make you look bad to the Pixonic people. Interesting theory. Shall I re-quote all the posts that I've personally made ranting about Pixonic and their often dubious choices? Or the easy counter-point to your claims of evidence in the many quotes I could find from moderators where they lamented and denigrated Pixonic for various things? Or the plethora of threads that are outrageously insulting to Pixonic, and yet still open? Tell me, young lurker that knows people so well through the interface of plain text... How many accounts have been permanently banned since the forum's inception? How many accounts have been banned since Pixonic included this community forum in their blogs and posts? Now compare that to how many accounts have been added recently... Yeah, no, sorry, but the ban hammer hasn't been really used yet, and you appear to be fear-mongering, and adding just a dash of accusations of fascism and nepotism. See, this is a polarization fallacy, where you attempt to troll the general audience by attacking the integrity of the administration through various passive-aggressive means. Eventually your hope may be to start actual flame wars with outspoken members (read: forum warriors) like myself, and maybe even some of the moderators, which you would then manipulate into calls for resignation or whatever else drama you think you can get away with. It's also older than the millennium, so I'd suggest grinding your trolling skills on Facebook until you can achieve the next evolution of trolling, then come back here and see if anybody still cares. We won't. You wanna contribute something useful to the community, great! Please do so. But if all you want to do is be toxic, then I must fart in your general direction. Good day, sir. Well said. Cossack Kudos to you.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 27, 2017 21:01:11 GMT -5
Perhaps I am referencing a maturity level that I inferred through observed behavior, rather than a literal description relative to the number of solar orbits completed. On the other hand, with such a small sample of behavior to be observed, it's easy to jump to conclusions. Time will tell.
With all due respect to the debate of quality versus quantity, y'all have posted how many times? "Young" as in new to the forum, with a sprinkling of reference to immature behavioral patterns.
"use the threat of banning people" stated as an absolute, and yet clearly unproven. You may as well call them Nazis. This is personally insulting to me as a member of this community. I would make some statement of solidarity with other forum members that feel personally insulted by such statements on behalf of the group... but that is exactly what you were doing when you made statements like "there are a bunch of people that feel exactly like I do about the Forum Nazis, so you are all wrong and refuse to admit it."
Your comments about the motivations and intentions of the administration of this forum HAVE NO VALIDITY. You are clearly using straw man arguments, fallacies of generalization, fallacies of appeal to popular opinion, and on, and on, and on, and on... you smell like a troll, maybe 3rd stage.
If you wish to prove your claims of honorable intentions in this community, I would strongly urge you to pick friendlier, less controversial topics to start with. When your introduction to us involves highly toxic concepts regardless of your opinions on perceptions, morality, or whatever other straw-men you want to conjure up, well, you are going to get hit back.
There's always gotta be at least one rule-book-lawyer Lawful-Neutral type, yeesh. Until such time as you make a sane post, I'll be staying away from any further flame-bait.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Feb 27, 2017 21:01:22 GMT -5
the ban hammer hasn't been really used yet Oh hey I don't exist anymore. Cool.
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 27, 2017 21:03:23 GMT -5
Oy, take off the martyr's cap, son. Nobody's telling you what you can and can't discuss. But I also have the same right as you to comment. As for clarifying the rules, happy to look into that for you if you find them unclear, confusing, or ambiguous. This is what I've mentioned before. Is being insulting, or being a SA good moderation? I appreciate your relentless one-man crusade to prove what everyone already knows- that I am a terrible human being and an awful moderator.
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Feb 27, 2017 21:27:08 GMT -5
lockslywr Well I personally don't receive any money from Pixonic, I give them a small amount each month. I can't ban anyone, which trust me, as an old redneck, parent and grandparent from the hills of Kentucky is a good thing. I am just trying to learn something and possibly help someone if I can. Oh, and hopefully provide a couple of chuckles along the way. I find it much easier to try and be positive, it's hard work to be negative and I gave that up when I retired. Could you just imagine me and DirtyLikaRat® as mods. Armageddon baby. it would be like Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing cept with Robots. Dude that's it. Old Man. We ain't waiting around for the voting... The Democratic Word of the People crap. Were takin power old school style. Like Germany took Poland. War Robots Forum Moderator Position... You have just been Annexed. Old Man and D.L.R. are your newly Appointed God-Kings. We will be fair, but firm. Now run along and fetch our beer and Clint Eastwood Westerns blue rays. Chop chop
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 27, 2017 21:33:06 GMT -5
Perhaps I am referencing a maturity level that I inferred through observed behavior, rather than a literal description relative to the number of solar orbits completed. On the other hand, with such a small sample of behavior to be observed, it's easy to jump to conclusions. Time will tell. With all due respect to the debate of quality versus quantity, y'all have posted how many times? "Young" as in new to the forum, with a sprinkling of reference to immature behavioral patterns. "use the threat of banning people" stated as an absolute, and yet clearly unproven. You may as well call them Nazis. This is personally insulting to me as a member of this community. I would make some statement of solidarity with other forum members that feel personally insulted by such statements on behalf of the group... but that is exactly what you were doing when you made statements like "there are a bunch of people that feel exactly like I do about the Forum Nazis, so you are all wrong and refuse to admit it." Your comments about the motivations and intentions of the administration of this forum HAVE NO VALIDITY. You are clearly using straw man arguments, fallacies of generalization, fallacies of appeal to popular opinion, and on, and on, and on, and on... you smell like a troll, maybe 3rd stage. If you wish to prove your claims of honorable intentions in this community, I would strongly urge you to pick friendlier, less controversial topics to start with. When your introduction to us involves highly toxic concepts regardless of your opinions on perceptions, morality, or whatever other straw-men you want to conjure up, well, you are going to get hit back. There's always gotta be at least one rule-book-lawyer Lawful-Neutral type, yeesh. Until such time as you make a sane post, I'll be staying away from any further flame-bait. I have to respectfully disagree with just about everything you wrote here. The perception of those new to the forum is unequivocally of value. Instead of launching into a rant and calling him a troll you should probably try to identify what caused him to view the forum in this manner and what changes can be made to prevent other newcomers from thinking the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:33:17 GMT -5
6pack If you found Strayed 'a comment genuinely offensive, I would encourage you to report the post. Otherwise, you're just mini-modding. The idea, in general of reporting the head admin is a joke. Now as far as Strayeds is concerned, all one would have to do at most (if you wanted it off forum), would be to pm him, and you could square things up very easy. As far as mini-modding, we can just not try to keep things civil, and smooth things over. We can just report every little single thing. I would think you would want members to tell others to chill, but if not, you guys can deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:37:28 GMT -5
6pack If you found Strayed 'a comment genuinely offensive, I would encourage you to report the post. Otherwise, you're just mini-modding. The idea, in general of reporting the head admin is a joke. Now as far as Strayeds is concerned, all one would have to do at most (if you wanted it off forum), would be to pm him, and you could square things up very easy. As far as mini-modding, we can just not try to keep things civil, and smooth things over. We can just report every little single thing. I would think you would want members to tell others to chill, but if not, you guys can deal with it. Who could you report him to? The majority, if not all, of the staff are on Strayed's side.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:41:42 GMT -5
This is what I've mentioned before. Is being insulting, or being a SA good moderation? I appreciate your relentless one-man crusade to prove what everyone already knows- that I am a terrible human being and an awful moderator. You just continue to reinforce my point. You are the sole reason I ever brought up moderator conduct. I'm not on some crusade. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish in your last sentence (well, actually I am, but I am going to be polite). Numerous people disagree with me. You will likely get the best monitor award. Fine, but I'm not concerned who agrees with me. I never said you were a terrible human being, or even eluded to the fact. As far as an awful mod, no I don't think you are an awful mod, I think you could be a more respectful mod.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:44:33 GMT -5
The idea, in general of reporting the head admin is a joke. Now as far as Strayeds is concerned, all one would have to do at most (if you wanted it off forum), would be to pm him, and you could square things up very easy. As far as mini-modding, we can just not try to keep things civil, and smooth things over. We can just report every little single thing. I would think you would want members to tell others to chill, but if not, you guys can deal with it. Who could you report him to? The majority, if not all, of the staff are on Strayed's side. No one really. Thing is I think you could easily (actually I know) deal with him direct.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 27, 2017 22:07:41 GMT -5
I have to respectfully disagree with just about everything you wrote here. The perception of those new to the forum is unequivocally of value. Instead of launching into a rant and calling him a troll you should probably try to identify what caused him to view the forum in this manner and what changes can be made to prevent other newcomers from thinking the same thing. I had to read this a few times to look for bait... jaded. Anyways, to point more fingers, he started it with "You all". I carried it on, because I have a hard time trying to not react to torrents of male cow feces, especially 'silent majority' fallacies. I gotta work on that if I ever want the exalted position of a moderator, tho. The mods around here, in my arrogant personal opinion, show a great deal of restraint in dealing with all of us, and I'm willing to be the reactive arsehole that they cannot be. The previous points I made weren't about the attitude of new members and reasons why somebody would or wouldn't join up. It's about the equivalent of somebody walking into a feminist convention and shouting "「huge tracts of land」 or GTFO!", he knew what he was doing. In turn, a few members even tried to reason with him, only to be told that we're still a bunch of idiots and failed to understand his toxicity. I'm going to walk away now...
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 27, 2017 22:15:11 GMT -5
The idea, in general of reporting the head admin is a joke. Now as far as Strayeds is concerned, all one would have to do at most (if you wanted it off forum), would be to pm him, and you could square things up very easy. As far as mini-modding, we can just not try to keep things civil, and smooth things over. We can just report every little single thing. I would think you would want members to tell others to chill, but if not, you guys can deal with it. Who could you report him to? The majority, if not all, of the staff are on Strayed's side. I would sincerely like to think that my fellow admin team would not hesitate to pull me up if I was out of line. To me, that's integrity. I shouldn't have immunity from consequence just because I'm a volunteer.
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 27, 2017 22:20:14 GMT -5
I appreciate your relentless one-man crusade to prove what everyone already knows- that I am a terrible human being and an awful moderator. You just continue to reinforce my point. You are the sole reason I ever brought up moderator conduct. I'm not on some crusade. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish in your last sentence (well, actually I am, but I am going to be polite). Numerous people disagree with me. You will likely get the best monitor award. Fine, but I'm not concerned who agrees with me. I never said you were a terrible human being, or even eluded to the fact. As far as an awful mod, no I don't think you are an awful mod, I think you could be a more respectful mod.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 22:24:57 GMT -5
Who could you report him to? The majority, if not all, of the staff are on Strayed's side. I would sincerely like to think that my fellow admin team would not hesitate to pull me up if I was out of line. To me, that's integrity. I shouldn't have immunity from consequence just because I'm a volunteer. A moderator is usually picked on trust. I can trust you that you won't go on random banning sprees or locking down multiple threads.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 27, 2017 22:25:42 GMT -5
This is what I've mentioned before. Is being insulting, or being a SA good moderation? I appreciate your relentless one-man crusade to prove what everyone already knows- that I am a terrible human being and an awful moderator. Now I know why there is a request for new mods....find some worse mods to make you look better! Well if lower quality is a qualification, my standing may have just improved. IMO, I think we are just trying to figure out the new rules of forum warfare and feeling the heavier hand of moderation in order to keep law and order in the Wild West....you all have given us that heads up but it will take us a bit to get used to the new world order. just feeling each other out.....those of you in the box seats and the rest of us in the cheap seats. ?
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Feb 27, 2017 22:43:57 GMT -5
Oh LAWDY LAWDY!! Ladies.... Ladies!!! Don't make me get the belt!!! Its Spankin season... And I got a hankerin for a spankerin! Y'all worse than a buncha Elderly Southern Baptist Women at the Hair Salon Monday mornin, arguin bout who's was the most inappropriately dressed at church Sunday, who was goin to hell for havin a baby outta wedlock, and who's pecan pie tatse the best.
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Feb 27, 2017 22:46:05 GMT -5
Which by the way.. Everyone knows my pecan pie tastes the Best
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 23:27:46 GMT -5
Oh LAWDY LAWDY!! Ladies.... Ladies!!! Don't make me get the belt!!! Its Spankin season... And I got a hankerin for a spankerin! Y'all worse than a buncha Elderly Southern Baptist Women at the Hair Salon Monday mornin, arguin bout who's was the most inappropriately dressed at church Sunday, who was goin to hell for havin a baby outta wedlock, and who's pecan pie tatse the best. That dress looks like 2 pigs fighting under a blanket
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 23:29:19 GMT -5
Which by the way.. Everyone knows my pecan pie tastes the Best Nope, my sweet tater pie, and my banana puddin w/nilla wafers
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Post by lockslywr on Feb 27, 2017 23:41:29 GMT -5
Perhaps I am referencing a maturity level that I inferred through observed behavior, rather than a literal description relative to the number of solar orbits completed. On the other hand, with such a small sample of behavior to be observed, it's easy to jump to conclusions. Time will tell. With all due respect to the debate of quality versus quantity, y'all have posted how many times? "Young" as in new to the forum, with a sprinkling of reference to immature behavioral patterns. "use the threat of banning people" stated as an absolute, and yet clearly unproven. You may as well call them Nazis. This is personally insulting to me as a member of this community. I would make some statement of solidarity with other forum members that feel personally insulted by such statements on behalf of the group... but that is exactly what you were doing when you made statements like "there are a bunch of people that feel exactly like I do about the Forum Nazis, so you are all wrong and refuse to admit it." Your comments about the motivations and intentions of the administration of this forum HAVE NO VALIDITY. You are clearly using straw man arguments, fallacies of generalization, fallacies of appeal to popular opinion, and on, and on, and on, and on... you smell like a troll, maybe 3rd stage. If you wish to prove your claims of honorable intentions in this community, I would strongly urge you to pick friendlier, less controversial topics to start with. When your introduction to us involves highly toxic concepts regardless of your opinions on perceptions, morality, or whatever other straw-men you want to conjure up, well, you are going to get hit back. There's always gotta be at least one rule-book-lawyer Lawful-Neutral type, yeesh. Until such time as you make a sane post, I'll be staying away from any further flame-bait. Owning a Thesaurus and stringing many words into a single sentence does not qualify you as an expert. Your normal pattern 1) Personal attack. i.e. Infer that I am immature. 2) Follow that up with a point that apparently highlights your intelligence but in no way validates #1. i.e. You make assumptions and dribble out words. 3) Makes a further statement that in no way paraphrases what I have said nor intended to say. But with many empty words it looks to the reader that you have facts to back you up. 4)You will make a grandiose statement that places (you think) you on a pedestal "You stand in solidarity with other forum members...blahblahblah". These are empty words. I can as easily say that that I also stand by members who are offended by you attacking the opinions of others when they don't align with yours. 5) You will throw in a few words or labels (Nazi) that will hopefully stick to whomever you are sparring with. 6) You finalize what little you have to say. You will have some profound statement that will hopefully nail your point of view. You typically will re-use the same type of sentence that you have used in the past. I am quite sure you have used that "rule-book-lawyer" BS in some past interaction. If I go search I am sure I can find a parallel in one of the sub topics on this site. Why do you follow that pattern of behaviour of regurgitating the same lame-「bum-bum」 sentences? In the past if you thought you have won an debate or indeed did actually triumph then that is like your sentence of confirmation to yourself. Its your verbal pat on the back. 7)You make statement that will you no longer belittle yourself by continuing on with one such as me. it is your way of declaring victory without actually having achieved such. You can attempt to claim the moral high ground by taking this action. You see...I don't need many interactions to solve your mystery, neck beard. < please note the personal attack to distract youI have stated that I have a perception. I am entitled to my perception, as you are entitled to yours. You think I am a troll. I think you are a bully with a sense of entitlement. "I have been a member of this forum since the beginning of time so therefore I may dismiss an opinion." " If I wish to prove my claims of honorable intentions...." at no point did I state I had honorable intentions or harmful intentions...I simply stated that some members and potential members have a sense that some staff opinions on this forum are being steered by Pixonic. I did not state that I have an intention of any kind my friend. Not once. You have a habit of making assumptions and that pisses me off more than anything. I make it a habit of avoiding people like you. In this case I make an exception. Do not make assumptions about who you are talking too or about. You may regret that assumption. You urge me to stick to specific topics? Really? Are you simply that embedded in your own self worth that you feel I should be regulated to sunny days and sunny ways? I should send you a list of suggest areas of discussion? I don't bow to people like you. Do you not actually see that you are doing exactly what I am referencing? I have to revise my perception that it is the mods and admins that make people nervous about toxic topics. It is you. You, who are able to give a psychological evaluation via the internet. You, who not only uses a straw man analogy on me but then proceed to do the same thing to me. You are priceless beyond compare. Well done basement dweller, well done. < please note personal attack to make me feel and sound superiorgood bye. I'm done talking to you. (see I can use the superiority exit as well.)
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