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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 30, 2017 21:30:42 GMT -5
Glad I found this thread, now to unwind. I'm fed up! My win rate is down to 34%! I'm usually one of the last to die in my team and after looking these, I believe are the reasons for it. For answers I'm in gold 3. 1: poor matchmaking. How the hell am I supposed to survive against an opposing team when only one is from my league? I've even had team made up of leagues below me down to bronze 1. 2: tankers. Why the hell leave early, just because you don't like the map! What a poor excuse for a gamer. I suppose these people are the ones who cry in other pvp games when a map comes they don't like. 3: Faders. So, you are in silver 2, but your hanger is full (all 5 spaces). Filled with lvl 10-12 bots, all with lvl 11-12 weapons. Yeah something fishy there. 4: people who I like to call farmers. Yep, you've all come across them. Those who "farm" for damage! Oh look, an unguarded, unclaimed beacon. But I'm going to run to the opposite side of the map to farm for damage. Hey, they may have cost their team the win but they got that 1mill+ damage. If I could figure out how to add photos on here from mobile, I would gladly put up loads of photos showing what I mean. All those who come into the categories above, do us all a favour. Go play clash of clans! Then you won't have to worry about leaving maps, or doing the most damage, or finding easy targets because you bought all the gear with no idea! Rant over... For now. Tankers have been noticeably worse in iOS the last few days, I'm sure in anticipation of the update dropping soon. It's unreal. Nothing burns my 「bum-bum」 more in this game than seeing the highest ranked player with the highest level hangar with 0's or just pitifully low damage. It happens way too often to attribute it to anything but tanking. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 7, 2017 17:18:50 GMT -5
Game is just absurd tonight. Getting shredded by at least one tanker in every game.
I have to stop playing when I get home from work -- every day at this time every moron and butthole tanker with a smart phone or a tablet is logged in to this game and ends up putting me in the foulest of moods for the rest of the night. This is why I have that useless godd@mm hydra Fujin.
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Post by degothia on Sept 13, 2017 22:10:59 GMT -5
Is War Robots interested at all in solving this problem or do they just not care because we continue to give them money? (I have stopped giving them money until they fix this broken game).
Seriously, these tankers are ditching because they want to be dropped back to whatever lower league they think is more suited to their 「female dog」 bots(Aphid Gepards and Stalkers)where they can win against newbs and under equipped players.
If there was no league ranking BS there would be no tanking. At least I don't remember it being any where near as bad as it is right now.
So, why not scrap it. face it. It failed. Not because it was a bad idea but because of the side effect of sucky players that would rather win hollow victories than get good.
THEN MAYBE THEY COULD GET ON WITH FIXING THE BROKEN MM SYSTEM THE KEEP SAYING ISN'T BROKEN.
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Post by amoebastudios on Sept 13, 2017 22:45:55 GMT -5
LQ is turned back on so tanking should not be an issue on iOS any more.
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Post by degothia on Sept 14, 2017 8:25:14 GMT -5
LQ does nothing if they just park their bots till the timer runs out though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 8:46:53 GMT -5
Just posted this in wall of shame. 100% success rate, winged cups (champion league level) playing in Gold 1. Don't know if going back up or down.  |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 17, 2017 19:03:58 GMT -5
What is it about 6:00-8:00 every night that brings the tankers out of the woodwork??? As seems to be the case every night around this time, every game tonight has had either a complete no-show or a high-rank player scoring 30k in damage. The only good thing about it is I get to score high damage in a losing effort. But jeezus it sure gets tiring.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Sept 17, 2017 21:37:07 GMT -5
Not sure what this guy had in mind. I don't think it was to make a lot of friends or to join a clan. Sorry, Dude. We won in spite of you.  |
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Post by vball on Sept 23, 2017 22:20:21 GMT -5
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 23, 2017 22:37:51 GMT -5
I had a real crisis of conscience today. I squadded with a different clan (one of my clan mates has 2 accounts and belongs to 2 clans), and had an absolute blast because they play as a real team. What a joy. They liked me, they had an open slot, so I left my old clan that was doing exactly nothing for me and joined them. They usually require Discord, which I don't use, but invited me anyway. Then I found out they encourage 'de-ranking', because anybody in the squad over 2900 points means they get matched up against champs and masters, while if they stay below 2900, games are competitive. They're not into massive tanking to seal-club, but eventually if you artificially stay in Diamond 2 long enough, you end up with a dominant hangar. And indeed, there are a couple of Diamond players there with 11/12 hangar, which in my mind just ain't right.
I confess, actually threw in my light hangar and played to lose a few games to keep from moving up to D1 again, and then I rapped myself in the head and said what the hell am I doing. It's one thing to mix up the hangar to keep things fun or even to troll campers or whatever, but doing it just to intentionally drop ranks is everything I complain the most and loudest about.
So I gave it some thought, then thanked them for inviting me in, explained my problem with league-dropping, and left the clan. I should probably report them, but they're otherwise a good bunch of guys, and after having joined them, I'd feel like a first-class rat. so I'm settling for just not participating to clear my conscience. There are certainly worse things in this world to be concerned about. But I'm now again without a clan, and to be honest, I might just stay that way.
I guess my point in all this is, I'm kind of amazed at how widespread tanking is in this game in one form or another. Whether it's dropping from Master to Bronze or Diamond 1 to Diamond 2, it amounts to the same thing -- gaming the system for an unfair advantage. But so many people are fine with it, because the 「fluffernutter」ing game basically encourages it; and until they do something to discourage it, it's going to continue to be rampant.
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 10, 2017 17:46:02 GMT -5
The only way to fix the tanking is for Pix to get rid of the current league system, and they won't do that because they think forcing people to fight hangers ages above their own will compel them to spend more real-world money on upgrades and pay-to-win bots/weapons.
The only way to compel them to change things is if people stop playing.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 10, 2017 19:22:33 GMT -5
The only way to fix the tanking is for Pix to get rid of the current league system, and they won't do that because they think forcing people to fight hangers ages above their own will compel them to spend more real-world money on upgrades and pay-to-win bots/weapons. The only way to compel them to change things is if people stop playing. Yeah, well, all it compelled me to do is delete the game. Well done, Pix, well done. |
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Post by BLYTHE on Oct 10, 2017 21:48:05 GMT -5
The only way to fix the tanking is for Pix to get rid of the current league system, and they won't do that because they think forcing people to fight hangers ages above their own will compel them to spend more real-world money on upgrades and pay-to-win bots/weapons. The only way to compel them to change things is if people stop playing. Pix encourages this sort of behavior. Mag Geps were their cash cow way back when and they could have simply nerfed it overnight--like they do with everything else--but didn't because plenty of people were willing to dish out the $20 to straight up buy one. Now Dashes will clear the top ranks, force players down to the lower leagues and the newer players (ones that are more likely to spend) will have to P2W. To further level the field, Pix is offering the Dash to newer players (who still view the game positively and don't have enough gold). |
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Post by ironwarrior on Oct 11, 2017 4:14:05 GMT -5
The easiest way to make a point is still play, but stop spending. It does work but everyone has to stick together. Personally, after seeing reviews of the bots, they don't interest me! The main stay still is the Griffin. I even run a 5 hanger Griffin every so often. I've killed more dash bots than be killed by.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 11, 2017 11:31:54 GMT -5
This camper was a class A hole.  |
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 11, 2017 22:27:52 GMT -5
The easiest way to make a point is still play, but stop spending. It does work but everyone has to stick together. Personally, after seeing reviews of the bots, they don't interest me! The main stay still is the Griffin. I even run a 5 hanger Griffin every so often. I've killed more dash bots than be killed by. This doesn't work, really. As long as the whales, which is where Pix gets the vast majority of their income, have under-powered punching bags running about to use as target practice for their expensive new toys, Pix has no incentive to change anything. If the casuals leave, then the whales, having nothing to shoot at, leave. That's when Pix starts panicking. |
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Post by ironwarrior on Oct 12, 2017 6:12:02 GMT -5
The easiest way to make a point is still play, but stop spending. It does work but everyone has to stick together. Personally, after seeing reviews of the bots, they don't interest me! The main stay still is the Griffin. I even run a 5 hanger Griffin every so often. I've killed more dash bots than be killed by. This doesn't work, really. As long as the whales, which is where Pix gets the vast majority of their income, have under-powered punching bags running about to use as target practice for their expensive new toys, Pix has no incentive to change anything. If the casuals leave, then the whales, having nothing to shoot at, leave. That's when Pix starts panicking. Unfortunately, if too many people leave and the game is under populated, pixonic will just stop development and close rededicate the servers to another game. If the servers are well populated but no income it tells pixonic that people want to play but are unhappy with certain elements. Look at the past history of another developer, kixeye, as this is the pattern they have followed. |
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 12, 2017 6:47:58 GMT -5
This doesn't work, really. As long as the whales, which is where Pix gets the vast majority of their income, have under-powered punching bags running about to use as target practice for their expensive new toys, Pix has no incentive to change anything. If the casuals leave, then the whales, having nothing to shoot at, leave. That's when Pix starts panicking. Unfortunately, if too many people leave and the game is under populated, pixonic will just stop development and close rededicate the servers to another game. If the servers are well populated but no income it tells pixonic that people want to play but are unhappy with certain elements. Look at the past history of another developer, kixeye, as this is the pattern they have followed. The whales, which make up 90% of the games income, aren't going to stop giving them money as long as they have players with weak hangers to push around. Why would they? |
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Post by ironwarrior on Oct 12, 2017 8:19:55 GMT -5
I agree with you there. Let me tell you a story about another game called Vega Conflict.
Kixeye, who own Vega, used to run events 2-3 times a month. This was great. In between it left time for gathering res, researching, and some PvP.
In Kixeyes great wisdom, they decided to increase the amount of events until, eventually, you was lucky to get more than 24hrs between events. Players decided this was too much. So they decided to hold a no coin month.
Great, yay, but kix decided to release new ships and tech on an almost weekly basis.
The whales couldn't help themselves. Suddenly, during the no coin protest, fully Mkd (upgraded in War Robots terms) appeared. Whole fleets (6 ships in a fleet) of latest tech. People decided enough is enough.
Players are now leaving the game in droves, those that have stayed are either whales or small time coiners trolling lower level players. You would be lucky to find more than 1500 players online at any time. When I started playing the game, there was more than 3000 people playing at one time.
Moral of this story: be careful. Developers need to listen to players and players need to engage with developers.
Admin: if this post violates any rules I apologize but this posts intention is to draw awareness to uncoordinated protests. I don't want to lose this game as its the only one I really play on Android.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 12, 2017 9:39:06 GMT -5
This doesn't work, really. As long as the whales, which is where Pix gets the vast majority of their income, have under-powered punching bags running about to use as target practice for their expensive new toys, Pix has no incentive to change anything. If the casuals leave, then the whales, having nothing to shoot at, leave. That's when Pix starts panicking. Unfortunately, if too many people leave and the game is under populated, pixonic will just stop development and close rededicate the servers to another game. If the servers are well populated but no income it tells pixonic that people want to play but are unhappy with certain elements. Look at the past history of another developer, kixeye, as this is the pattern they have followed. Players may leave in a hurry, but they're not going to leave all at once. If anyone at Pix has an ounce of brains in their head, they should notice the trend (assuming there's even a trend to be noticed) before the player population drops to that point and make some strategic changes to reverse the trend. But I really think that the dollar will speak louder than anything, including our meaningless attempts at protests, and as long as there are whales to keep spending RM on the newest, shiniest, OP-est toys, Pix is going to keep doing exactly as they're doing. If they have hungry investors to answer to, they will neither see nor care about anything beyond the next 90 days, particularly how much money they can rake in. If it means closing the doors on the game in a year, they won't care, because they'll have gotten their return on this investment, and will most likely have the next cash grab already waiting in the wings. I hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by rdood on Oct 16, 2017 17:58:11 GMT -5
that moment you realize going through gold league is easier then going through silver league
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Post by chaosbunny on Oct 17, 2017 15:31:31 GMT -5
Meet Victor the Fader.  He and some stupid leaver ruined a game for the Reds. This Game:  Still, they had another Kumiho to pick up the slack (Victor only spawned in his.). |
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Post by rdood on Oct 19, 2017 16:07:27 GMT -5
 I thought this was funny guessing hes trolling cause noway hes dropping 9k cups |
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 19, 2017 23:28:59 GMT -5
I thought this was funny guessing hes trolling cause noway hes dropping 9k cups  |
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Post by Stermy on Oct 21, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -5
I thought this was funny guessing hes trolling cause noway hes dropping 9k cups I think that is the guy that sold his entire hangar as a protest against pixonic and then bought a bunch of cossacks just to fill the hangar (he did a youtube video too, but can't find the link right now). That's how you quit the game like a boss  |
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Post by ironwarrior on Oct 22, 2017 9:52:00 GMT -5
Tanking has seemed to level out. Even found players who have been in my games and have received no keys or gold, with the keys/gold going to the next player. Don't know if that's the new leavers queue but if it is I agree with it!
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Post by wildboar on Oct 30, 2017 6:38:26 GMT -5
Getting fed up with being on a win task to see a blue teammate go through each of their bots destroying them one by one
Especially on Team Deathmatch as you are 4-0 down with 15 seconds gone... uses last bot to grab a kill/damage and suicides
It just stinks and you have very little chance of turning that around
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Post by wildboar on Oct 30, 2017 10:26:14 GMT -5
depressing thought of the day ...
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Post by ironwarrior on Nov 11, 2017 21:01:58 GMT -5
 Noticed that this clan, inferno, have a lot of players in this situation. |
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Post by operator8472 on Nov 15, 2017 1:30:45 GMT -5
Leagues are having two effects on me. 1) I love that winning is more important, so it places more of an emphasis on beacon capping. Pilots will get tired of being second best on a losing team to get only 3 points pretty quick. Hopefully they will learn to take the ten seconds to step over and grab the beacon next to them in hopes of helping their team win and getting better points. .... 2) It makes me hate people who drop even more than I already did. When I get top damage on my team and we lose a close game because we were short a pilot? That really bunches my panties up. Im not the kind of guy who will screw over other players because I dont like a map and it just ticks me off when I lose because some inconsiderate selfish dip decides to skip out because he wants a different map. Thats the one thing I like about holiday specials with the prizes to spin the wheel stuff. IT was all about damage and if players skipped out and you lose a match extra fast because you are overwhelmed, you dont care. It only means that you had less competition on your team to beat out for the top damage and the match is over quicker so you can start another and earn more. I sometimes was happy to see the game was lopsided 6 to 4 from the start. One fix I would consider adding to leagues is that you only get negative points if your damage is over something like 100K. This way if you tank a lot and only get 50K damage or something stupid, you dont get any negative points, which means you wont get demoted. To get demoted, you have to show you are trying to help some and still suck. People who join a match and drop out, or just let their bot sit there wont ever get the demotions they want. That or/and if you get less then 60K damage and your team loses, you get fined 3 gold. Nope. I was in a match today, got taken out, when I come back to respawn, I see the map, four triangles all standing there, next to the home beacon which is still white. HELLO BEACON RUSH should be fairly self explanatory...but it's not apparently. Ok nuff ranting for me today. Cya's tomorrow or the next day after. |
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