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Post by ryel on Feb 23, 2017 7:11:17 GMT -5
I have 8000 WSP and I've already bought 2 magnums and 3 tarans. I like to switching my bots and experiment with several builds. I'm not sure what should I buy.
What I'm thinking about:
1)3rd Magnum and try the Thunder+Magnum Leo, is it a useful build?
2)Rhino I could replace my PDB griffin with a PDB rhino or a Magnum+Orkan rhino. Does the Rhino usable nowadays?
3)Fujin I have 3 tarans so I can equip it and use instead the PDB griffin but both the griffin and Rhino seems better choice
4)Carnage I awe the Thunder Carnage however I would need to upgrade two more thunder or replace both my Leo and Boa for it
What I do not plan to buy:
1)Stalker I think light bot in a 4 slot hangar is the easiest way to mech out
2)Trident I love my RDB griffin so I do not plan to go for the Fury road on the long run and the current available platforms (Leo, Golem, Natasha) seems suboptimal compared to my RDB
3)Hydra The Hydra spiral griffin not just inferior to the RDB but one of the most annoying enemy or team mate in the game
4)Trebutchet Once I bought a Natasha hoever after 1-2 match I realized sniping is not my style
HANGAR:
1)Leo(8) with Thunder(7) + 3xPinatas(7)
My main tank tons of health and awesome burst damage in close range.
2)Boa(6) with Thunder(7) + Orkan(7) or Taran (7)
After the previous advises I tend to love this guy both with Orkan and Taran setup. The toaster's speed and health gave me the most hilarious moments in the game:
-Climb up to Galahads and Rhinos is possible, they always surprised when I am the one who keep standing.
-Cornershooting on dead city, shenzen and reactor, kill a bot without a scratch
-Rushing on the edge of the map and surprise the snipers camping behind on canyon
-Squadding with my brother who has a thunder carnage and kill 4-5 bots on the corridors of shenzen
3)Griffin(6) with lvl 7 PDB setup
Great flanking bot and awesome counter for those pinata leos, carnages and fujins what I met every day.
4a)Griffin(6) with lvl 7 RDB setup
+Midrange is awesome on Yamatu, Springfield, Kanyon and Shenzen
+Killing crippled fleeing enemies before they reload their rockets is cool
+Support friendlies in their 1v1 is awesome
+I rarely mech out when use it in beacon advantage or as a last bot
-I tend to suffer on dead city and reactor when it is my last bot.
4b)Griffin(6) with DB setup (pinatas(6) + orkans(7))
+Awesome ambush bot, it kill fast any damaged bot
+It justify my decision to bought a second orkan
-It's not yet a real DB
-Upgrading 5 pinatas is hard.
-I tend to mech out more frequently when I use it instead the RDB
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Post by ryel on Feb 27, 2017 7:04:47 GMT -5
Placeholder for previous versions:
Update: Several improvements, thx the advices. Changes are underlined.
After 10 days of play I need some advice what to do with my hangar, my current setup (all bot and weapon at lvl6):
1) Leo : Pinata+Pinata+ Pinata + Thunder(7)
Should I use 3 pinata for max damage or 2 pinata and a magnum for corner shooting?
Update: Pinatas are the best weapon for leo. A complete magazine with the thunder damage deal 150k+ damage what on my level enough to kill any bot.
2) Griffin: Pin(7)+Pin(7)+Tulumbas(7)+Tulumbas(7)
RDB griffin is my favourite bot.
Update: the weapon upgrades and the practice had significant effect on this bot. A perfect hit deal 38k damage. It means I can chip away 30-40% hp of a bot or kill a crippled bot who otherwise would survive the snipers.
3) Griffin: Pinata + Pinata + Orkan(7) + Orkan
I'm still collecting the Au for the second Orkan however I need some advice for the second medium slot
Update: I completed the DB setup before the 5th slot. It's a bit tricky because its not yet a db setup with 82k damage so I mainly use it for ambush to finish damaged bots or play hide and seek.
4) Griffin: Magnum + Magnum + Taran (7) + Taran (7)
Update: I tried many setup here but I mainly use plasma griffin, because in 10-15 sec Im able to kill any other bot, however this bot die the most easily in my hangar too.
4+1) Boa: Thunder + Taran(7)/Orkan(7)
Update: Sometimes I replace the DB or PDB griffin with this toaster guy to get some speed and more hp with slighly cost of dps. This is where I regretted the second orkan because it would be perfect placeholder for the DB griffin.
Currently I grinded 1000 gold so 4000 more to get the 5th slot. From WSP I think I target a Rhino to replace the plasma griffin or a Stalker with magnums to replace my boa.
Available bots for the 4th position:
Lvl 6: Griffin/Leo/Natasha if I buy one
Lvl 4: Cossack
Lvl 3: Golem
Lvl 2: Boa
Lvl 1: Vityaz, G.I. Patton, Schutze
Available light weapons:
Lvl 6: Magnum, Pinata, 2xPunisher
Lvl 5: 2xMolot
Lvl 4: Ecu
Available medium weapons:
Lvl 6: Taran, 2xPunisher
Lvl 5: 2xMolot
Lvl 4: Ecu
Available heavy weapons:
Lvl 6: Thunder
Lvl 4: Nashorn
So I would appreciate any idea for the question marks in my hangar setup.
Thank you.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Feb 27, 2017 11:49:49 GMT -5
I would personally save for the 5th slot. You can slap a Tulu or Punisher-T on in the meantime easily enough. Yes, you won't be a full Death Button but you will get a fifth bot to use in combat all the sooner.
slots before bots
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Post by ryel on Mar 3, 2017 4:25:09 GMT -5
I would personally save for the 5th slot. You can slap a Tulu or Punisher-T on in the meantime easily enough. Yes, you won't be a full Death Button but you will get a fifth bot to use in combat all the sooner. slots before bots Thx the advice, sadly I wasn't able to resist to buy the second orkan. Some regrets but orkans are so awesome. Long way to the 5th slot. 1) Leo : 3xPinata-Thunder 2) RDB Griffin 3) DB Griffin 4) PDB Griffin Bots are level 6 weapons are lvl 6-7. Maybe I should use an upgraded boa instead one of the close combat bots to give some speed to my hangar. |
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Post by frunobulax on Mar 3, 2017 7:06:55 GMT -5
You are in need of more Plasma, badly. Switch a PDB to Plasma Griff or Mag Thunder Leo. Save for the 5th spot.
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Post by ryel on Mar 3, 2017 7:30:52 GMT -5
You are in need of more Plasma, badly. Switch a PDB to Plasma Griff or Mag Thunder Leo. Save for the 5th spot. Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought PDB is 2xTaran+2xMagnum, but you are right, many time I would like more than 1 bot with plasma. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 3, 2017 11:57:20 GMT -5
If you can't afford the second Orkan (go for slots first), a Taran is nice. If you don't have another Taran, Get a tulu or punisher and slap it on there until you can get a replacement.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 3, 2017 14:08:02 GMT -5
After 10 days of play I need some advice what to do with my hangar, my current setup (all bot and weapon at lvl6): 1) Leo : Pinata+Pinata+ ? + Thunder Should I use 3 pinata for max damage or 2 pinata and a magnum for corner shooting? 2) Griffin: Pin+Pin+Tulumbas+Tulumbas RDB griffin is my favourite bot. 3) Griffin: Pinata + Pinata + Orkan + ?I'm still collecting the Au for the second Orkan however I need some advice for the second medium slot 4) ?This is a big question mark Available bots for the 4th position:Lvl 6: Griffin/Leo/Natasha if I buy one Lvl 4: Cossack Lvl 3: Golem Lvl 2: Boa Lvl 1: Vityaz, G.I. Patton, Schutze Available light weapons:Lvl 6: Magnum, Pinata, 2xPunisher Lvl 5: 2xMolot Lvl 4: Ecu Available medium weapons:Lvl 6: Taran, 2xPunisher Lvl 5: 2xMolot Lvl 4: Ecu Available heavy weapons:Lvl 6: Thunder Lvl 4: Nashorn So I would appreciate any idea for the question marks in my hangar setup. Thank you. What I would do: 1) Put the 3rd Pinata on the Leo & patiently coax people to chase you around corners when you can't ambush them. At your stage of the game you should be able to burst dps opponents in a 1 on 1 while taking minimal damage. Also, a great bot to start a match with. The extra HP will help you survive an extra exchange or too as well as survive the dash across open maps to cover. The Leo and all of these weapons will be viable in TT and are worth the time & resources. 2) RDB Griffin - keep it, love it, use it, your midrange is covered and you can focus the rest of your hanger on doing damage. 3) Tulu will let you finish off crippled opponents while out of range of your other weapons plus, it will have the same feel as full DB while you wait. A punisher will let you finish off crippled bots after your initial salvo as well as peck away at bots/shields a little further out then the rockets. Whichever you decide to go with do not level it - it's a place holder so you should spend your time upgrading something else...like a Boa! (see below) 4)Boa! Boa! Boa! Boa! Thunder and Taran! Heavy bot HP, medium bot speed & firepower. Corner shoot like a Ninja or use the Boas speed to get your Thunder under 150m and drop em like it's hot. Probably your best investment for cost at your level Generally: -Level the Boa to 6 before any further weapon upgrades. After that prioritize upgrades based on how you wish to proceed, Bots for survivability/Weapons for faster kills, but keeping them within a level or so of each other is the usual advice. Personally, in the new league environment, I would upgrade the Bots to 9 to achieve max speed and bank gold/WSP for 5th slot and weapons. Once all your bots are level 9 work your weapons up and you will be well prepared as you progress to higher leagues. - 5th slot is usually better first but with the potential to complete a proper DB Griff you may actually get to 5k faster if you invest the initial 1200 in a second Orkan depending on how much gold your current line up is earning you. Minimal investment for a well-rounded hanger that will perform well at your level and grow with you as you progress. Since you don't have to acquire anything new other than the Orkan you can be effective immediately and direct your time/resources where you need it most. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 17:44:12 GMT -5
4)Boa! Boa! Boa! Boa! Thunder and Taran! Heavy bot HP, medium bot speed & firepower. Corner shoot like a Ninja or use the Boas speed to get your Thunder under 150m and drop em like it's hot. Probably your best investment for cost at your level I see the Boa being a favorite of many... I myself greatly enjoyed it under the old MM. However, I'm not sure it is a good investment now. It is much more like a heavy bot in terms of level up time and cost... going from 2 -> 9 is a major investment in a bot that I'm not convinced is particularly effective in the 6+/6+ heavy (or WSP/Au medium) environment. I certainly would like to be "sold" on the Boa, though, perhaps I've underestimated it when all I see at that weight class is Galahads, Carnages and Aphid Pattons. |
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 3, 2017 17:57:32 GMT -5
I would personally save for the 5th slot. You can slap a Tulu or Punisher-T on in the meantime easily enough. Yes, you won't be a full Death Button but you will get a fifth bot to use in combat all the sooner. slots before bots Thx the advice, sadly I wasn't able to resist to buy the second orkan. Some regrets but orkans are so awesome. Long way to the 5th slot. 1) Leo : 3xPinata-Thunder 2) RDB Griffin 3) DB Griffin 4) PDB Griffin Bots are level 6 weapons are lvl 6-7. Maybe I should use an upgraded boa instead one of the close combat bots to give some speed to my hangar. I'm in Silver and since you weren't able to resist, the Orkan is a great damage dealer even at lvl 5 in Bronze and isn't a throw away weapon in the future. That said, try to keep your weapons on a bot in the same general range. Happy hunting. |
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Post by Pateras on Mar 3, 2017 18:00:49 GMT -5
Save for 5th slot and put a Griffin in the 4th, thats what i did and it worked for me.
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Post by ryel on Mar 6, 2017 10:10:30 GMT -5
After 10 days of play I need some advice what to do with my hangar, my current setup (all bot and weapon at lvl6): 1) Leo : Pinata+Pinata+ ? + Thunder Should I use 3 pinata for max damage or 2 pinata and a magnum for corner shooting? 2) Griffin: Pin+Pin+Tulumbas+Tulumbas RDB griffin is my favourite bot. 3) Griffin: Pinata + Pinata + Orkan + ?I'm still collecting the Au for the second Orkan however I need some advice for the second medium slot 4) ?This is a big question mark Available bots for the 4th position:Lvl 6: Griffin/Leo/Natasha if I buy one Lvl 4: Cossack Lvl 3: Golem Lvl 2: Boa Lvl 1: Vityaz, G.I. Patton, Schutze Available light weapons:Lvl 6: Magnum, Pinata, 2xPunisher Lvl 5: 2xMolot Lvl 4: Ecu Available medium weapons:Lvl 6: Taran, 2xPunisher Lvl 5: 2xMolot Lvl 4: Ecu Available heavy weapons:Lvl 6: Thunder Lvl 4: Nashorn So I would appreciate any idea for the question marks in my hangar setup. Thank you. What I would do: 1) Put the 3rd Pinata on the Leo & patiently coax people to chase you around corners when you can't ambush them. At your stage of the game you should be able to burst dps opponents in a 1 on 1 while taking minimal damage. Also, a great bot to start a match with. The extra HP will help you survive an extra exchange or too as well as survive the dash across open maps to cover. The Leo and all of these weapons will be viable in TT and are worth the time & resources. 2) RDB Griffin - keep it, love it, use it, your midrange is covered and you can focus the rest of your hanger on doing damage. 3) Tulu will let you finish off crippled opponents while out of range of your other weapons plus, it will have the same feel as full DB while you wait. A punisher will let you finish off crippled bots after your initial salvo as well as peck away at bots/shields a little further out then the rockets. Whichever you decide to go with do not level it - it's a place holder so you should spend your time upgrading something else...like a Boa! (see below) 4)Boa! Boa! Boa! Boa! Thunder and Taran! Heavy bot HP, medium bot speed & firepower. Corner shoot like a Ninja or use the Boas speed to get your Thunder under 150m and drop em like it's hot. Probably your best investment for cost at your level Generally: -Level the Boa to 6 before any further weapon upgrades. After that prioritize upgrades based on how you wish to proceed, Bots for survivability/Weapons for faster kills, but keeping them within a level or so of each other is the usual advice. Personally, in the new league environment, I would upgrade the Bots to 9 to achieve max speed and bank gold/WSP for 5th slot and weapons. Once all your bots are level 9 work your weapons up and you will be well prepared as you progress to higher leagues. - 5th slot is usually better first but with the potential to complete a proper DB Griff you may actually get to 5k faster if you invest the initial 1200 in a second Orkan depending on how much gold your current line up is earning you. Minimal investment for a well-rounded hanger that will perform well at your level and grow with you as you progress. Since you don't have to acquire anything new other than the Orkan you can be effective immediately and direct your time/resources where you need it most. Thank you these are one of the best advices I got on the game. I tried the Boa and I love it. I frequently switch in for one of the griffs. What do you think Orkan or Taran is better for it? (Until I hit the orkan pinata upgrade level where it become a real death button) |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 6, 2017 12:08:30 GMT -5
Personal preference really, The Orkan/Thunder combo is all about ambushing and burst damage. Use the Boa's speed to stay out of the line of fire as you close in. When you attack get as close to your target as possible (point blank) and circle around them towards the Boa's left to avoid as much return fire as possible. Circling to the left rather than the right will allow you to concentrate on keeping your Thunder pointed at your targets center mass "Draging" your medium hardpoint along behind you. The splash radius of the Orkan's means they will hit even if not striking your opponent dead on. Bots with Ancile shielding should either be engaged at <30m or single fire your Thunder to take the shield down before you let loose the full clip of both the Thunder & the Orkan.
The Taran/Thunder is more versatile and it utilizes the corner shoot of the Boa and range of the Thunder more than the Orkan setup. While the Thunder has the added benefit of finishing off crippled opponents, sending enemies behind cover and dropping Ancile shields up to 500m out, you should only single fire it unless you are under ~200M. A great strategy is to park your Boa behind cover a while corner firing with the Taran. If your lucky someone will close in to dig you out. Wait for the last moment and step backward around the corner forcing them to make the turn. When they do bury your thunder in their Bot and circle left. When using this technique against a bot with a physical shield, start to back peddle and circle left. As soon as your opponent moves to angle his shield to block your thunder move forward in and circle right, when done correctly your Taran will fire around their shield while the Thunder either shreds it or shoots around/over it.
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Post by ryel on Mar 20, 2017 7:11:28 GMT -5
Thank you the previous advises. I need your help again, see the poll and the updated post.
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Post by snk on Mar 20, 2017 10:12:32 GMT -5
I have tried Leo with thunder/Piñata and thunder/Magnum. I prefer thunder/magnum, I play the Leo like thunder Carnage, I know it is slower, but no blue energy shield bar, other bot will come to you if you wait at the corner. You can kill most bots with point blank range. I think it is the 3rd highest dps bot in this game, just after 3x thunder fury and thunder mag Nathasia. But you have more hp then fury and nathasia.
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Post by hyderier on Mar 20, 2017 14:40:20 GMT -5
I have tried Leo with thunder/Piñata and thunder/Magnum. I prefer thunder/magnum, I play the Leo like thunder Carnage, I know it is slower, but no blue energy shield bar, other bot will come to you if you wait at the corner. You can kill most bots with point blank range. I think it is the 3rd highest dps bot in this game, just after 3x thunder fury and thunder mag Nathasia. But you have more hp then fury and nathasia. At point blank range, unless I read the manuals wrong, a Thunder Carnage (or a Thunder Rajin, but who in their right mind gets that close to a Thunder Rajin?) does more DPS than Mag-Thunder Leo. |
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Post by elttaes on Mar 20, 2017 15:08:21 GMT -5
I've actually gone for two Carnages (1 Thunder, 1 Trident at the moment) because 2 weapons are cheaper to upgrade to high levels (even if they are heavies) than 3 or 4.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Mar 20, 2017 16:51:27 GMT -5
Sounds like you like the LEO and are familiar with its perks... so put sone Mags on that! I think that would help you best now.
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Post by snk on Mar 20, 2017 22:25:18 GMT -5
I have tried Leo with thunder/Piñata and thunder/Magnum. I prefer thunder/magnum, I play the Leo like thunder Carnage, I know it is slower, but no blue energy shield bar, other bot will come to you if you wait at the corner. You can kill most bots with point blank range. I think it is the 3rd highest dps bot in this game, just after 3x thunder fury and thunder mag Nathasia. But you have more hp then fury and nathasia. At point blank range, unless I read the manuals wrong, a Thunder Carnage (or a Thunder Rajin, but who in their right mind gets that close to a Thunder Rajin?) does more DPS than Mag-Thunder Leo. Thunder Carnage 1,108,672 DPM Thunder/Mag Leo 1,220,69 DPM Thunder/Piñata Leo 828,320 DPM warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_DPM_and_Best_Bot_SetupsIf the information provided above is correct. I was wrong about dps, Leo has higher DPM than twin thunder at point blank, even better 100m - 300m. I just said I prefer mag over Piñata for Leo, and it can kill bot in many situations even not the best (<200m). But it is cheap and all round bot. It definitely can beat thunder Carnage, PDB/DB Griff, Gareth etc in point blank. I will choose DB Griffin if I want to play shot and hide, it's burst damage is so much more then Leo with Piñata. |
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