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Post by ushtar on Aug 30, 2018 4:06:47 GMT -5
Seems they both can play attack/evade and play support/ambush roles very well. Only want to waste resources on one build. What would you go for? Haven't had the chance to run on TS, and have very limited resources. Would be nice to know why as well.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 30, 2018 7:04:39 GMT -5
If you're running Scourges, you don't really need the Pulsars. The Scourges will stay locked to your target. The only time I can see this being necessary is if you're trying to chase a bot that is running for cover and you want to prevent that from happening.
My vote would go to the Corona and Storm combo.
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Post by ushtar on Aug 30, 2018 8:58:08 GMT -5
If you're running Scourges, you don't really need the Pulsars. The Scourges will stay locked to your target. The only time I can see this being necessary is if you're trying to chase a bot that is running for cover and you want to prevent that from happening. My vote would go to the Corona and Storm combo. Thanks! Yeah, does seem like a waste of firepower. Though what you mentioned is appealing as well! Hehe... i can imagine the frustration. Would you know if 1 pulsar is enough to stun a red before scourge runs out? |
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 30, 2018 9:07:47 GMT -5
IIRC, the Pulsar has a 13% chance of rooting a target. There's 24 shots, so technically, it should be possible. IDK, I've only played the rooting weapons in Skirmish. Seems that if your plan is to root at 600m and then jump in and finish off with the rest of your weapons, you won't have enough time. Better to just fire all weapons at that range, and hope it roots the target.
Take the Corona/Storm combo for example. I'm actually considering the Corona myself now that I have 6k components of one. If I complete it, I plan to run it with either Gusts or Shreddes or Halo on my Mender and turn it into a pure support bot. I'll heal blues and root reds and be a true team player bot. If you want to use Spectre, then you'll be a lone wolf most of the time and planning your ambushes. Corona/Storm would be a good combo as you have 4 close range shotguns to use. Where you'll have difficulty is Anciles as you'll effectively lose 50% of your firepower until the Ancile goes down, whereas if you had 4 Coronas, you'd kill that Ancile bot hands down.
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Post by ushtar on Aug 30, 2018 18:18:49 GMT -5
Thanks! Will definitely focus on the corona
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Post by cheap on Aug 30, 2018 22:19:39 GMT -5
thinking that running a Shredder, Corona and a Halo on a Golem you could Perma Lock-down.
when they ran the Skirmish with Root weapons the Leo i was using Locked-down another Leo almost back to back and vice versa. don't know if any one else noticed or if Pix mentioned anything about Root stacking when weapon size is different.
so if you put different hard point weapons like energy shotguns, and the machine gun type root weapon they should be able stack.
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Post by schrotter on Aug 31, 2018 9:16:09 GMT -5
so if you put different hard point weapons like energy shotguns, and the machine gun type root weapon they should be able stack. Fun! Sounds like we’ll all be playing a tower defense game... |
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Post by BossieBos on Aug 31, 2018 9:21:25 GMT -5
thinking that running a Shredder, Corona and a Halo on a Golem you could Perma Lock-down. when they ran the Skirmish with Root weapons the Leo i was using Locked-down another Leo almost back to back and vice versa. don't know if any one else noticed or if Pix mentioned anything about Root stacking when weapon size is different. so if you put different hard point weapons like energy shotguns, and the machine gun type root weapon they should be able stack. There’s a couple of seconds of root invulnerability after the timer is done. Perma root should not be possible. Maybe the player just stopped trying to move and focused on aiming properly. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 31, 2018 9:52:39 GMT -5
thinking that running a Shredder, Corona and a Halo on a Golem you could Perma Lock-down. when they ran the Skirmish with Root weapons the Leo i was using Locked-down another Leo almost back to back and vice versa. don't know if any one else noticed or if Pix mentioned anything about Root stacking when weapon size is different. so if you put different hard point weapons like energy shotguns, and the machine gun type root weapon they should be able stack. There’s a couple of seconds of root invulnerability after the timer is done. Perma root should not be possible. Maybe the player just stopped trying to move and focused on aiming properly. Might he have been saying that the invulnerability isn't tied to the root effect alone, but to the type of root effect? Like, Shredder root happens, then that bot is invulnerable to Shredder rooting alone for a few seconds, while Corona can root?
I am not saying it is either way... I am just trying to understand what he meant by Stackable... but I think that's what he was saying.
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Post by BossieBos on Aug 31, 2018 10:58:17 GMT -5
There’s a couple of seconds of root invulnerability after the timer is done. Perma root should not be possible. Maybe the player just stopped trying to move and focused on aiming properly. Might he have been saying that the invulnerability isn't tied to the root effect alone, but to the type of root effect? Like, Shredder root happens, then that bot is invulnerable to Shredder rooting alone for a few seconds, while Corona can root?
I am not saying it is either way... I am just trying to understand what he meant by Stackable... but I think that's what he was saying.
Maybe, yeah... |
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Post by cheap on Aug 31, 2018 11:12:07 GMT -5
There’s a couple of seconds of root invulnerability after the timer is done. Perma root should not be possible. Maybe the player just stopped trying to move and focused on aiming properly. Might he have been saying that the invulnerability isn't tied to the root effect alone, but to the type of root effect? Like, Shredder root happens, then that bot is invulnerable to Shredder rooting alone for a few seconds, while Corona can root?
I am not saying it is either way... I am just trying to understand what he meant by Stackable... but I think that's what he was saying.
yes that was what i was trying to get at. since one is shotgun and the other is like a machine gun. since Shredder an Pulsar are Root and the New energy Shotguns have immobilize i believe it is called. the effect might be similar but if the mechanics on how it achieves this is different then a Pilot running a Golem would almost be able to Perma the effect when it hits you with a Glory (immobilize) then Pulsar (lock-down)and then Halo(immobilize) Rinse an Repeat. since the odds of getting Lock-Down increase with Weapon level. i have yet to try the New Energy Shotguns ,but i would like to know if this is possible |
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Post by shivaswrath on Aug 31, 2018 11:34:59 GMT -5
Using pulsar and shredder on TS, vs the Halo/Corona style, I have more luck rooting with Halo/Corona. I just got a Halo randomly...so trying it out and have rooted multiple bots only at level 4. I'm probably going to get another I'm very impressed.  |
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Post by ushtar on Aug 31, 2018 18:46:05 GMT -5
[/quote] Thanks for the info. This set up seems like fun, with a glory as well. If pulsars take a while to take effect, I guess coronas are good for short maps while pulsars for long range. |
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Post by shivaswrath on Sept 1, 2018 11:27:05 GMT -5
This is slightly a better setup actually.  These rooting guns don't do a whole lot of damage, their strength is either in rooting (Halo Corona Glory) or Shredding with the occasional root (pulsar shredder). I'm going to put a Pulsar on this Galahad, but keep the Gust on. This has been an epic setup around the corners when dash for KoTH....you freeze them and have your shields up while running. As long as you can watch out for Orkans my Galahad has survived literally 3 minutes and kept on pounding reds. It's so good I'm going to dust off my old Galahad or Gary and throw on a Shredder and Pulsar (eventually will try to get Halo once the WSP opens up for it). |
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