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Post by babypoppy on Aug 28, 2018 18:40:19 GMT -5
I get the impression I might see more of these. Any good setups? Carnage, Lancelot, Mercury?
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Post by dobby on Aug 28, 2018 19:33:02 GMT -5
Depends on your league.
Carnage looks decent for certain points on the map that allow you to shoot over them, but in upper leagues they have too many drawbacks to be effective most of the time - could still be fun though. Lancelot has a similar issue for upper leagues, but in lower I’m sure it could be a decent setup.
Mercury, maybe... It’s stealth is a little short and it lacks the durability to go toe-to-toe for long enough to get good use out of the avenger. Inquisitor might serve that role a little better, but even then IDK how effective, it looks decent on paper.
Falcon should be decent with it, but it’s quite a large Silver drain, so might not be worth the investment. However, it is a setup I intend to run, once I finally finish off the Falcon.
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Post by Joopiter on Aug 28, 2018 23:06:36 GMT -5
I played around with one with punishers on an Inquisitor. It was a pretty good build, but I haven't gotten around to leveling it past 8. Although the punishers t's were maxed. It did surprising damage up close, so it had a nice place on the field. I ran it as support and an ambusher.
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Post by The VVatcher on Aug 29, 2018 0:05:18 GMT -5
Just about anything that you would’ve put a thunder on, but don’t have to go up to peoples face all the time.
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Post by Tatamat on Aug 29, 2018 0:27:44 GMT -5
My plan is to level old-eco Naty to Mk2 lvl 12 (228 k HP and the price is laughable compared to new gear upgrade) and put a pair of Shredders and a pair of Avengers on it.
IMO, if I manage to root a bot with this setup, in 5 s only a smoking corpse will remain.
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Post by Why? on Aug 29, 2018 4:13:22 GMT -5
Bulwark.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 4:34:50 GMT -5
My plan is to level old-eco Naty to Mk2 lvl 12 (228 k HP and the price is laughable compared to new gear upgrade) and put a pair of Shredders and a pair of Avengers on it. IMO, if I manage to root a bot with this setup, in 5 s only a smoking corpse will remain. That's an interesting setup. Maybe it won't work in Champions, but I would love to try it. For the OP: Bulwark. |
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Post by iam99 on Aug 29, 2018 5:36:34 GMT -5
I love my Avengers - currently on a Natty x 2 with Punisher and another Carnage x 2
both great fun in my Diamond league 3 or Gold 1
I tried out a Lancelot Punisher T - ok
Inqui with Punisher T - very good.
Bulwark looks like a good set up with the extra shielding. (carnage on roids)
I think the weapons are great for mid leagues at L8/9+ - Higher Leagues would need to be L12 as always or even MK2 L12
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Post by babypoppy on Aug 29, 2018 5:54:47 GMT -5
I love my Avengers - currently on a Natty x 2 with Punisher and another Carnage x 2 both great fun in my Diamond league 3 or Gold 1 I tried out a Lancelot Punisher T - ok Inqui with Punisher T - very good. Bulwark looks like a good set up with the extra shielding. (carnage on roids) I think the weapons are great for mid leagues at L8/9+ - Higher Leagues would need to be L12 as always or even MK2 L12 I'm on D2 Android with L8 weapons and not planning to level them further or go up leagues. I like bullets so looking at a more diverse hangar (2nd soon too). |
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Aug 29, 2018 6:08:13 GMT -5
My plan is to level old-eco Naty to Mk2 lvl 12 (228 k HP and the price is laughable compared to new gear upgrade) and put a pair of Shredders and a pair of Avengers on it. IMO, if I manage to root a bot with this setup, in 5 s only a smoking corpse will remain. You know... if this would be a fully loaded Spectre, then I'm not sure whose smoking corpse would remain  But seriously - I like your idea. But I would go for 2 Avengers Glory(?) Fury. Then stick out only your head above the obstacle and spray reds with lead... |
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Post by ironstar on Aug 29, 2018 6:17:16 GMT -5
My plan is to level old-eco Naty to Mk2 lvl 12 (228 k HP and the price is laughable compared to new gear upgrade) and put a pair of Shredders and a pair of Avengers on it. IMO, if I manage to root a bot with this setup, in 5 s only a smoking corpse will remain. One of my clan mates run this setup. Granted he's not in Champion but it seems pretty effective. |
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 29, 2018 6:40:25 GMT -5
I had an amazing game with my Avenger/Gust Mercury last night. Yes, we lost, but I killed 4 bots back to back in quick succession. It's a lot of luck and situational, but played right, this bot is very versatile.
So, I was on Springfield playing Domination. A red Rhino charges straight for our home beacon. He wasn't alone, but another blue took care of the other red. I waited for the Rhino to cross the bridge and I jumped as he was entering the covered structure by the beacon. I turned and activated Helldive and boom got him with the explosion. Then I shredded him at PB range. Poor guy didn't have a chance. Then, I crossed the bridge with the other blue, a Pursuer and we duked it out with a half HP Haechi. I don't remember what happened to the blue Pursuer, but I shredded the Haechi's Ancile in a few shots and kept firing at around 360m. Poor guy didn't get off a shot and he must have gotten stuck on a corner or something. He respawned in a Griffin with mixed weapons. I hid behind those round things by the bridge, taking some splash damage. When my Helldive was recharged, I stepped out, took some damage, but jumped and got him with a good long burst. Kept hitting him on my way down and while he jumped too. Got him down to just a bit of health, ran around the corner and killed him. He respawned in a Natasha. Ok, now I just feel bad for him! His Nat had Zeuses. Another Helldive, boom, and shredded him before my stealth wore off. Took the beacon, lost the game!
Don't get me wrong, I don't usually do this well with this bot. I think I got lucky and pounded a noob. For some reason, the Mercury loses the top heavy weapon very quickly if it gets pounded. Anyway, I do like this build and I'm liking it more day by day as I get used to it. I didn't run a Leadhose Griffin for long in the lower leagues so I do have a learning curve. Basically, the role for this build is that of a harasser that also happens to have a wicked ambush if you get close enough. It's can't 1 salvo kill like the Spectre, but then, it can do things that a Spectre can't do too.
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Post by RightOn on Aug 29, 2018 6:46:39 GMT -5
Falcon
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Post by shivaswrath on Aug 29, 2018 7:08:44 GMT -5
Lancelot!
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Post by babypoppy on Aug 29, 2018 7:11:34 GMT -5
I had an amazing game with my Avenger/Gust Mercury last night. Yes, we lost, but I killed 4 bots back to back in quick succession. It's a lot of luck and situational, but played right, this bot is very versatile. So, I was on Springfield playing Domination. A red Rhino charges straight for our home beacon. He wasn't alone, but another blue took care of the other red. I waited for the Rhino to cross the bridge and I jumped as he was entering the covered structure by the beacon. I turned and activated Helldive and boom got him with the explosion. Then I shredded him at PB range. Poor guy didn't have a chance. Then, I crossed the bridge with the other blue, a Pursuer and we duked it out with a half HP Haechi. I don't remember what happened to the blue Pursuer, but I shredded the Haechi's Ancile in a few shots and kept firing at around 360m. Poor guy didn't get off a shot and he must have gotten stuck on a corner or something. He respawned in a Griffin with mixed weapons. I hid behind those round things by the bridge, taking some splash damage. When my Helldive was recharged, I stepped out, took some damage, but jumped and got him with a good long burst. Kept hitting him on my way down and while he jumped too. Got him down to just a bit of health, ran around the corner and killed him. He respawned in a Natasha. Ok, now I just feel bad for him! His Nat had Zeuses. Another Helldive, boom, and shredded him before my stealth wore off. Took the beacon, lost the game! Don't get me wrong, I don't usually do this well with this bot. I think I got lucky and pounded a noob. For some reason, the Mercury loses the top heavy weapon very quickly if it gets pounded. Anyway, I do like this build and I'm liking it more day by day as I get used to it. I didn't run a Leadhose Griffin for long in the lower leagues so I do have a learning curve. Basically, the role for this build is that of a harasser that also happens to have a wicked ambush if you get close enough. It's can't 1 salvo kill like the Spectre, but then, it can do things that a Spectre can't do too. That sounds fun. Thinking of dusting the Leo and sticking a couple of Shredders to complement Avenger and Punisher. |
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Post by spectre9 on Aug 29, 2018 7:51:58 GMT -5
I’m running my Avenger (9) on a max 12m2 Golem along with Taran (10) and Gust(10) in Expert 1 iOS.
It’s not a dash but it has 42km movement which keeps the guns relevant.
And each is the highest or close to highest long term dps in game.
Gust pairs well with Avenger particularly against Ancille builds. Either you take them out or you drive them back into cover because the shield melts in like two seconds.
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Post by iplayfromrehab on Aug 29, 2018 12:35:46 GMT -5
I run a fully upgraded MK2 LVL12 inquisitor with the same lvl avenger and punisher T’s it is honestly a blast and does so much work
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Post by rags on Aug 29, 2018 12:50:21 GMT -5
Saw a punny Lance go on a wrampage. Pretty cool. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:55:24 GMT -5
how would a lance with avenger and 2x storm do? Or better to have 2x punisher-t
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Post by Tatamat on Aug 30, 2018 0:33:00 GMT -5
My plan is to level old-eco Naty to Mk2 lvl 12 (228 k HP and the price is laughable compared to new gear upgrade) and put a pair of Shredders and a pair of Avengers on it. IMO, if I manage to root a bot with this setup, in 5 s only a smoking corpse will remain. You know... if this would be a fully loaded Spectre, then I'm not sure whose smoking corpse would remain But seriously - I like your idea. But I would go for 2 Avengers Glory(?) Fury. Then stick out only your head above the obstacle and spray reds with lead... Yeah, fully loaded Spectres leave only smoking corpses behind...below 300 m. There's still a chance to catch it in larger distance. Fury would be great, there's just the upgrade cost. I don't have any as I have always tried to do a similar job with Naty, so getting a Fury to Mk2 lvl12 is an expensive business for a guy prefering fun over Champion league... |
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Aug 30, 2018 6:38:56 GMT -5
You know... if this would be a fully loaded Spectre, then I'm not sure whose smoking corpse would remain But seriously - I like your idea. But I would go for 2 Avengers Glory(?) Fury. Then stick out only your head above the obstacle and spray reds with lead... Yeah, fully loaded Spectres leave only smoking corpses behind...below 300 m. There's still a chance to catch it in larger distance. Fury would be great, there's just the upgrade cost. I don't have any as I have always tried to do a similar job with Naty, so getting a Fury to Mk2 lvl12 is an expensive business for a guy prefering fun over Champion league... I hear what you say about fun and Champion league. With Workshop 2.0 I can finally get bots/weapons I want. It takes time and resources, but at least I can PLAN to get them. With BM deals and Royale there is no planning. You could just hope to the components you want... |
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Post by garunixreborn on Aug 30, 2018 6:41:08 GMT -5
Best setups include the inquisitor, lancelot, natasha, raijin, carnage, and bulwark
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 30, 2018 6:48:31 GMT -5
how would a lance with avenger and 2x storm do? Or better to have 2x punisher-t Storms don't seem to do as well as Gusts at range. They're 「deteriorated bum-bum」 up close like Thunders, but of the 3 shotguns, only the Gust seems to keep most of its damage when firing beyond PB range. This makes the Gust the most versatile of the 3 shotgun builds. So, on a Lancelot with the Avenger, I'd say that it likely won't do as well as Punisher Ts would. To run something with shotguns, you really want a bot that can close the distance into lethal range either fast or with relative impunity. The Lancelot can do neither. |
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Post by RightOn on Aug 30, 2018 13:43:08 GMT -5
The reason I picked Falcon, is because it can hunker down with 400k+hp making a lot of use of Avenger. It has 440 rounds and spools up to 30 rounds per second, so you have to hose them down for a while but it's 20k dps at lv8 (nearly 32k mk2 but lol). Paired with Orkans naturally. Fangs out is completely different, Falcon is really 2 bots in 1. It will take 1 week to level Falcon to 6, which it will have 97k hp, but with 66% reudction that's 291k hp! Not bad workshop 2.0! The Avenger will take about a week to get to level 8, even quicker! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 30, 2018 15:27:41 GMT -5
I second the use of Avenger + Gust builds... makes for a fun Strider. Up close or 350m+ it still does better than Thunder Gust or Avenger Puns.
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Post by ystava on Aug 31, 2018 14:56:17 GMT -5
I have an Inquisitor Avenger/Storm and it is a potent killer... have started taking down 2-4 bots in sacrifice plays...
I love the avenger.. it is better close range than either ember or redeemer... it does okay at mid ranges.
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Post by foxypotato on Aug 31, 2018 17:21:00 GMT -5
Avenger Punisher Leo is good. I like the Lance a little better but the Leo stands up to Orkan and Tulumbas fire better. The Lance is more situational but the shield is strong against energy weapons and the Rush ability allows you to move in and finish off red with the 'damage boost' from more of the rounds hitting red bot.
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