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Post by Browncoats4ever on Aug 27, 2018 9:01:26 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders?
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Aug 27, 2018 9:49:03 GMT -5
I don't have any Shredders yet, but I am running Pulsars on my Hover.
They are situationally useful; the Root ability is great for holding Dash Bots in place so you can hurt them, but they don't seem to do enough damage to take full advantage, so that seems to put their usefulness into 2 categories:
1) Teamwork. Best in Squads with voice comms. Lock them down so your teammates can crush them 2) Beacon Races. Stop your enemy from approaching the beacon long enough for you or a teammate to grab it first.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 27, 2018 10:03:38 GMT -5
If you have them, use them. They are part of the future landscape for War Robots, so you might as well get a leg up. If I got them for free, I'd use them too, especially after seeing how useful they are as part of a mixed bag in the Skirmish. I lost track of how many times I got rooted and then killed and how many times I rooted a fast red and then had help toasting it. I don't like the mechanic, but like I said, it's the future of War Robots.
Plus, when you add in the Suppression effects of the Evil Eye Trio, it'll be like playing Holiday and then Siren's Call in the old Magic card game. One card prevents attack, and the other forces attack, and if the unit can't attack, they die. Quick and dirty combo and I'll never forget how I used it to wipe out a player's entire on table army in one move. In War Robots terms, it'll mean that the reds won't be able to move, nor will they be able to do significant return damage. It'll be a killer combo that's for sure.
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 27, 2018 10:19:46 GMT -5
Best used in squad. You Lock them down and a teammate destroys them. Just watch some of BigJJ newer YouTube videos he is running a number of rooting weapons. His clansmen finish off those he locks down.
If running solo you will not get as much benefit IMO except a for few select exceptions IE Mercury Shredder where you can root them then roast them.
I have two of the new root weapons myself, I am slowly trying to upgrade them in the background.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 10:46:03 GMT -5
We could call them, the HAL bots. The eye looks a lot like it.
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Post by ystava on Aug 27, 2018 12:52:07 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders? It's a trade off. It does decent damage... better than magnum and spark, not better than gust or Punisher up close damage... but you have the rooting thing and you have the shield bypass thing. I'd consider putting one on a bot and fill out the rest with stronger stuff.
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Post by windcaster on Aug 27, 2018 17:47:34 GMT -5
I don't agree with them and so choose not to use them my self, but if you have no such reservations then level them up and party down.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Aug 27, 2018 19:18:02 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders? It's a trade off. It does decent damage... better than magnum and spark, not better than gust or Punisher up close damage... but you have the rooting thing and you have the shield bypass thing. I'd consider putting one on a bot and fill out the rest with stronger stuff. Would one be effective?
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Post by ystava on Aug 28, 2018 9:38:29 GMT -5
It's a trade off. It does decent damage... better than magnum and spark, not better than gust or Punisher up close damage... but you have the rooting thing and you have the shield bypass thing. I'd consider putting one on a bot and fill out the rest with stronger stuff. Would one be effective? It does ok damage and it has an X% chance of root. If you want a bigger chance of root, use 2. It's a decent weapon, good range, plasma, and sits among decent weapons.
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Post by mechtout on Aug 28, 2018 10:30:22 GMT -5
I've used them on my plasma griff with good results. They are only level 3 too. Even when bots are out of range of your tarans you can toot them for teammates. Good for haechis
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Post by ScytheRuvi on Aug 29, 2018 15:55:43 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders? I think pairing shredders with an ember would be a good idea.maybe on a leo? Once root procs you can maximise ember damage. You could experiment different combos to see the right balance of root vs damage
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Post by magicjellybean on Aug 29, 2018 16:16:21 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders? I think pairing shredders with an ember would be a good idea.maybe on a leo? Once root procs you can maximise ember damage. You could experiment different combos to see the right balance of root vs damage on paper yes, it's good damage. But one ember plus a few pew pews doesn't do damage fast enough. If you rooted an inquisitor or some close quarter monster like a shotgun pursuer or ork spec, it would probably burst you down faster
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Post by Royce on Aug 29, 2018 20:02:09 GMT -5
Is anyone running full root bots, like a quad pulsar spec or a rootin tootin griffin?
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Post by ScytheRuvi on Aug 30, 2018 1:13:41 GMT -5
I think pairing shredders with an ember would be a good idea.maybe on a leo? Once root procs you can maximise ember damage. You could experiment different combos to see the right balance of root vs damage on paper yes, it's good damage. But one ember plus a few pew pews doesn't do damage fast enough. If you rooted an inquisitor or some close quarter monster like a shotgun pursuer or ork spec, it would probably burst you down fasterThat's highly league dependent. Besides it goes without saying that target selection is important no matter what build you run. Close range nothing can really stand against gust pursuer or orkan spectre. Orkan spectre will eat any bot regardless of shields etc. and only stealth or descend could save that bot. Pursuer could even take out bulgasari for that matter.
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Post by magicjellybean on Aug 30, 2018 7:04:45 GMT -5
on paper yes, it's good damage. But one ember plus a few pew pews doesn't do damage fast enough. If you rooted an inquisitor or some close quarter monster like a shotgun pursuer or ork spec, it would probably burst you down faster That's highly league dependent. Besides it goes without saying that target selection is important no matter what build you run. Close range nothing can really stand against gust pursuer or orkan spectre. Orkan spectre will eat any bot regardless of shields etc. and only stealth or descend could save that bot. Pursuer could even take out bulgasari for that matter. Yep I was just about to add that in. Build would definitely be good in lower leagues. where DPM is better than burst due to low weapon levels not being able to one-burst a bot down especially a leo. Something the ember does well
Might just try this one out on my smurf account if I could snag a few pew-pews lol
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Aug 30, 2018 7:09:37 GMT -5
I've been Rooted a couple of times so far. I have 3 Shredders from a FB Giveaway. Should I spend the time and resources to level them? Is it worth the trouble? If I use them, I could exchange my Magnums for Shredders on my Griffins. Has anyone had success with them? Is it worth the loss of damage from the Magnums to use Shredders? I plan to put 1 Shredder with 2 Gusts on my Pursuer. I don't know, how effective this combo may be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 7:45:38 GMT -5
I am running 1 Pulsar (level 3) and 2 Shredders (4,7) on a Mender as a trial. I play solo and it is "Meh" at this point as the DPS is obviously low and there oftentimes no one ready to finish off a rooted opponent. I will probably level them up a bit more before reaching a decision.
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Post by RightOn on Aug 30, 2018 8:43:38 GMT -5
The best use for root is something like Mercury from last weeks Skirmish. Root them down and supplant the loss of firepower with a volley of rockets.
Like for above I'd replace the pulsar with an Orkan and keep the shredders.
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