League System Info (UPDATED 3/7/2017)

Is there a list of League names and their respective point brackets somewhere?

This it...?
war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/2602/leagues

Here ya go!

So how is the pre-rank games score calculated?
The #1 spot on my League friend's list is a player who has no badge--he's not played in weeks, his trophy count is <200 (he's drifted down from 4,000), but on the right side it shows his "league cups" count as 3437.

What is this number based on? It's not the rank he set for himself after 5 games (he's not played or placed yet), it's not based on activity trophies (he's got 200), so what's it based on? His mighty hangar? Total wins? Some combo?

I ask because the next highest ranked player in the clan has dismal stats but near-maxed everything. His win rate is ~30%, average damage ~400k, and destroyed per game 2.8.
He is in Expert III.

My stats are all better than his in ever category, yet I am in Silver III. Even our total victories are within a few hundred of each other, my max damage is higher, etc.

I am missing something how these placement points are determined, especially in the case of huge amounts of points pre-given to inactive guys who haven't even placed in the league system yet.

It *feels* like over-all hangar strength--including setups that are not in your current 5 line up, might be taken into consideration.

This, exactly this!  Getting beacons has always been somewhat undervalued in the game, this widens the gap even more.  Getting beacons is the biggest factor in winning.  Even when you win by bot destruction, beacon control is usually what allows you to kill so many bots, because it puts pressure on the other team to abandon strategic positions. 

I just played a game where i tied for the most beacons, did about 100k less than the top guy on our team (we were all pretty close, damage-wise) who got 0 beacons.  He gets 5 Au and +13 league points.  I get no Au (someone else had 5 beacons too) and only +4 league points.  Which of us did more to help the team win?  I probably could have gotten more damage and been closer to the top (or at the top), but then I wouldn't have had that many beacons and we probably wouldn't have won.  Plus, if we had lost, I would've lost league points and the top pilot on my team would still have gained points. 

Now, that's just one game and they don't all play out like that, but it just doesn't make sense.  Getting beacons needs to factor into the game rankings.

I agree that beacons should count for something. I feel like I'm always chasing beacons at the expense of damage. I do think they may count in your overall placement in the league but it'd be nice to get some points from them... 

It appears that it's one and the same. Your league score naturally determines your league, and that's what MM is based on as well.

(Mostly. There may be some modification based on other factors, like equipment levels.)

Is everyone losing cups?
Just played a game won 4 cups, was in the middle of a 5 game challenge, 3003 cups.
Won 4 cups, checked my cups 1285, have not left any games early.
I agree new system sucks, I play where I am needed, support, beacons, defend, but this system only wants damage.

I would conjecture that the previous MM we saw drop in January was a primer to figure out what your base league points would be. Basically, since January pix has been generating figures on your matches and "place" in each win/loss.

Based on that data they placed you in the appropriate "starting" league and confirmed it with your seeding games. Win bump up, lose and bump down.

Only way I can see them having an idea of where you "should" be.

So...why do "position" numbers 2-4 in SIlver II right now have guys in them that don't have the points for this level, but the one below?



Also, is there always 100 people in each level? Every time I've looked it has been 100. That raises an intersting question as to how people moving up and down affect other people, if the number per League has to stay constant.


   

Yep - when was in the 5 challenge matches I was up to 50 points above the max for that league until my 5th game when I moved leagues.

There are tens of 1000's of people on each level, but it just shows you 100 random dudes so you get a sense of where you stand.

and yes, the people above the line are in process of leveling up or down.

I'm glad I got placed into Diamond II to begin league play (hard to beat 770 Au for 5 qualification matches).  However, at this point I don't see how i'll ever get any higher.  Because I go more for beacons and less for damage, i usually rank somewhere between 3rd and 5th. That means that if I win, the average +4.67 points, but if I lose the average is -9.67.  I usually win about 60% of the time, so my net average per game is going to be -1.07.  Obviously, that will only take me downwards.

I know this is heresy, but i'm actually thinking about tanking a bunch until i get to lower leagues.  That way, i'll tend to win more and at least get back to high Au and Ag earning.