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Post by bravex on Aug 17, 2018 17:44:27 GMT -5
I was wondering what some players found to be the hardest thing to learn ...
It took me a while to learn how to use structures and terrain as cover. Convenient buildings and hills are all over the map once you know what you're looking for.
But first I had to learn the patience to use cover. No point in knowing about cover if you get mad or impatient and just charge the red players. I rarely do that now.
Anybody else have stories like this?
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Post by BossieBos on Aug 17, 2018 18:22:36 GMT -5
Haven’t been able to figure out how to zap Spectres and Inquisitors right when they jump into Descend mode out from cover. And it happens to me all the time.  |
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Post by bravex on Aug 17, 2018 18:39:52 GMT -5
Haven’t been able to figure out how to zap Spectres and Inquisitors right when they jump into Descend mode out from cover. And it happens to me all the time. That's hard. For me it's a matter of avoiding as much damage as possible when he's in stealth while at the same time trying to set up your counterattack. Evade. Wait. Destroy (Hopefully). |
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Post by windcaster on Aug 17, 2018 19:24:22 GMT -5
I don't remember where I was, I realized.. life is a game, The more seriously I took things, The harder the rules became.
I'd actually agree patience is the hardest thing.. now days I have no problem getting in 3 min long stand offs.. I'll just pitch a tent and roast some marsh mellows.
I think my stalker taught me best.. I got slaughtered trying to go guns blazing.. I learned survival first.
But I don't take most matches seriously any more.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Aug 17, 2018 19:33:09 GMT -5
Buddying up. So often I’m focused on my objective, how I’m going to kill the red that I don’t look around for fellow blues for help or to help. In lower leagues it doesn’t work out so well but by Diamond most players understand and they see the same thing you do. Providing crossfire and reading their intentions to work as a pair makes a big difference.
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Post by ranchpig on Aug 17, 2018 19:50:43 GMT -5
Hardest thing to learn is that this game is never going to be what I expect it to be. Period.
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Post by TheRageMonster on Aug 18, 2018 2:47:09 GMT -5
The hardest thing to learn in the game? Hmmm.. there are many really hard little tricks that can be employed to give you an advantage (keeping scourgasari's shield turned whilst continuing to fire, cornershooting, shooting stealth bots with shocktrain just as they jump, etc.) but if I had to choose one thing, I would say situational awareness.
Why? Because I have never yet met someone (myself included obviously) who had this fully mastered. For any pilot, there will be times when they aren't paying proper attention and miss a good opportunity, get wrecked by a bot coming behind them, or employ the wrong strategy in a situation. It is a concept that really can never be fully mastered, hence my choice as the most difficult War Robots concept to master.
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Post by inspirace on Aug 18, 2018 3:05:17 GMT -5
There are so many... one of them is to pull off the "super-dash" when needed and only when needed.
Have you ever lost a rank in a FFA battle by super-dashing into the sea in the Carrier map? Or something like this videoclip:
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Post by kukurukukuk on Aug 18, 2018 7:54:32 GMT -5
The hardest thing to learn in the game? Hmmm.. there are many really hard little tricks that can be employed to give you an advantage (keeping scourgasari's shield turned whilst continuing to fire, cornershooting, shooting stealth bots with shocktrain just as they jump, etc.) but if I had to choose one thing, I would say situational awareness. Why? Because I have never yet met someone (myself included obviously) who had this fully mastered. For any pilot, there will be times when they aren't paying proper attention and miss a good opportunity, get wrecked by a bot coming behind them, or employ the wrong strategy in a situation. It is a concept that really can never be fully mastered, hence my choice as the most difficult War Robots concept to master. Agreed. Everything else is a matter of technique, which, sooner or later, one gets to master it. Situational awareness on the other hand is much more difficult to master. Besides knowing your bots, weapons and maps inside out, it also requires a good understanding of the situation that develops before you and opting for the most optimal answer with the setup in hand. On the technical aspect of things, it took me a long time to get good with the Griffin. Half-jumps, no post-jump stutter etc... |
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Post by oncethedevil3 on Aug 18, 2018 12:45:40 GMT -5
Learning how not to utterly loathe the rear echelon, weak sister hydra/zenit/noricum kids is hard.
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Post by rags on Aug 18, 2018 13:02:01 GMT -5
when to be patient and when to be aggressive.
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Post by mothbot on Aug 18, 2018 22:26:13 GMT -5
For me, the hardest thing to learn is moving one direction while having to shoot in another direction. I find myself having to stop, correct my aiming, then run again
But the time I'm done, 1/3rd of my health is gone while the opposing players move their robots like an extension of themselves. It's frustrating because I know what I should be doing; but, it's really hard for me to do it.
The other thing is not to be too aggressive grabbing beacons, especially when I see the other blues ignoring them to up their damage totals. I get myself in trouble way too often because of it.
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Post by hi5 on Aug 18, 2018 23:06:41 GMT -5
Patience, both in game (aggressive but not too much) and outside (gathering resources, leveling up gear AND progressing up leagues).
Everything in the game monetizes around pushing the limits of player willingness to be patient.
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Post by osang on Aug 19, 2018 0:46:25 GMT -5
For me, the hardest thing to learn is to learn the game's annoyances.
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Post by go red on Aug 19, 2018 0:58:33 GMT -5
Is stop whining about what we don't have, how hard is it to upgrade, then enjoy what do we have right now.
Also appreciated for those P2W. Because of them we can still play free.
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Post by rags on Aug 19, 2018 2:32:43 GMT -5
Is stop whining about what we don't have, how hard is it to upgrade, then enjoy what do we have right now. Also appreciated for those P2W. Because of them we can still play free. ? Lmao. 「fluffernutter」 p2w |
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Aug 19, 2018 3:17:46 GMT -5
Hardest thing to learn is that this game is never going to be what I expect it to be. Period. Hardest for me was to realize that Pixonic treats their players as a [dookie]. Before I couldn't imagine that company may treat their customers this way... |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Aug 19, 2018 9:45:17 GMT -5
Patience.
When to hold and not attack. When to regroup to fight another day.
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Post by Radar love on Aug 19, 2018 11:46:55 GMT -5
When to drop a bot.
I am relearning this one as I am engaging in 6pack. I have been the super annoying gecko Patton. At some point this is not the most effective bot, like when there is 50 11 Lancers out there. I need to drop and get into something that is more effective.
Another example of proper bot dropping time would be in beacon rush. When I notice a blue beacon getting turned and I know have a high damage bot to deploy to save it. I know this is an aggressive tactic but I have been able to save many beacons by sacrificing the half dead bot I was in. Often I also find I can keep the beacon for turning red and get it to turn back blue, giving me another beacon count.
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Post by Zero Jee on Aug 19, 2018 11:52:15 GMT -5
With Walking War Robots, the hardest thing for me to "get" was that I wasn't in a race to progress to the meta.
I found myself readily jumping on the "Fug Pigsonic!" train, and feeling bitter about their monetization tactics. I was letting it get in the way of having fun.
So, I decided that league progressin, even winning, was not as important to me as enjoying my play time. So, I stopped caring about the meta, leveled everything at 6/6 and have had a blast hovering in Gold league.
It has given me perspective in better understanding the game's ins-and-outs, which has lead to me being a better pilot. Now that my hangar has a 5th slot, I am finally ready to start leveling gear to lvl 9 and moving up into the Diamond league.
In the end, it became a lesson for life too. When I feel overwhelmed, beaten by the odds, I can take a step back and reassess the situation more objectively. When I do this, I usually find that things aren't as bad as I made them out to be.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Aug 21, 2018 6:32:43 GMT -5
In the beginning, the hardest thing for me was the conserve my bots. When I was a rookie, I kept burning through my bots trying to cap/regain beacons. I learnt to wait for the right moment to launch a counterattack (when the enemy is distracted or my teammates are ready for a joint effort).
One of the best things I've learnt (which comes with lots of experience) is to know your "spots". Find out the places on each map where you maximise your bots capabilities whilst reducing its weaknesses. Proper usage of terrain is heavily needed for this.
The thing I'm working on now is changing directions properly without doing that weird dance the robots do. That means doing an arc with the left wheel and swinging the bot around. This technique would really help with running for cover and dodging tarans and other manual weapons.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 21, 2018 6:59:39 GMT -5
I really like watching Adrian's videos. He always talks about what he's doing and it helps to see him use cover and watch him prioritize targets and such.
Using cover is the most important, yet hardest skill to master in this game. That and situation awareness. That and patience - is patience a skill?
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Post by Estoplast on Aug 21, 2018 7:01:57 GMT -5
Oddly enough i have to say Bulgasari.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Aug 21, 2018 7:37:24 GMT -5
For me, the hardest thing to learn is moving one direction while having to shoot in another direction. I find myself having to stop, correct my aiming, then run again But the time I'm done, 1/3rd of my health is gone while the opposing players move their robots like an extension of themselves. It's frustrating because I know what I should be doing; but, it's really hard for me to do it. The other thing is not to be too aggressive grabbing beacons, especially when I see the other blues ignoring them to up their damage totals. I get myself in trouble way too often because of it. You will eventually get there. It takes only about a year to do it properly  |
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Post by hjn on Aug 21, 2018 8:04:28 GMT -5
Definitely the hardest thing to do for me is hold back
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Aug 21, 2018 8:48:45 GMT -5
Hardest thing was learning how to deal with more powerful opponents in the League MM. Most of y'all said something like "when to be aggressive," or "when to hold back," two things that I wrap up in the same issue... taking an 8/8 or 9/9 hangar into battle with Mk 1 and Mk 2 12s is not easy. It takes a lot of patience and decisiveness. If the time to strike is there, in those battles the window of opportunity will be short. Seeing your opening and taking it is just as important (if not more-so) than knowing when to stay back and conserve health. This also, for me, encompasses using the buddy system: either pairing with a willing participant(s) or using a solo wannabe Rambo as bait when they take on someone, or a group, by themselves. Also, terrain used for both cover from enemy fire, as well as funnels to get them where you and your teammates can hit them from multiple angles of fire.
When you are outgunned and out armored by the enemy, you need every single advantage you can get. A few things that were/are difficult in no particular order:
Shooting well while in movement (properly leading the target factoring in your own movement as well as theirs).
Intricacies of the dash (where you will end up, when to do it to dodge different types of weapons, etc.,)
Bot management (dropping the right bot at the right time)
Map priorities (what beacons to worry about and what beacons to ignore... this is easy on Yam and SF, but more difficult on the less linear maps where the battle lines are fluid). It's a constant self improvement challenge for me...
IMO, YMMV
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Post by kevmac on Aug 21, 2018 15:30:16 GMT -5
I was wondering what some players found to be the hardest thing to learn ... It took me a while to learn how to use structures and terrain as cover. Convenient buildings and hills are all over the map once you know what you're looking for. But first I had to learn the patience to use cover. No point in knowing about cover if you get mad or impatient and just charge the red players. I rarely do that now. Anybody else have stories like this? My biggest problem is my lack of patients, I just can't contain my urge to rush to battle and shoot bots. |
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Post by ronin on Aug 22, 2018 5:08:40 GMT -5
For me it is patience. How to just try and keep playing that match where you are alone in random side and enemy start with full clan, 6x shocktrain spectre all maxed out.
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Post by Heartbreak One on Aug 22, 2018 5:23:57 GMT -5
Oddly enough i have to say Bulgasari. Dude me too right now I find any rockets are working better than tarans. Maybe scourge will help me in the easy department. |
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Post by kellhound2002 on Aug 22, 2018 6:37:58 GMT -5
For me it's KoH. I despise that mode. For the longest time I would turn a beacon then head for the next to make a presence there before the reds showed up. This left me with very few beacon points while most of my team would drain the beacon. And there would only be one or maybe two teammates with me trying to hold the next beacon while the entire red team rushed us. I've come to accept that it's a broken game mode and there's no point in trying to play it as a team. Get as many beacon points as possible. That way if you lose at least you still come in near the top of the board and don't lose league points.
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