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Post by sorryistinkatthis on Feb 21, 2017 9:58:51 GMT -5
Only win Butch!!!!! Natasha is better than Butch. She at least can move. I was fortunate enough to win him and thought he would be the best robot to play with. Not dominate everyone, that's not realistic. Especially with their messed up algorithm for placing us together in a Battle. He's way too slow. Turns like an over loaded pontoon. Very unsure of footed! He is almost worthless on the snowy ground. And very lightly armored. I tried him with trebs, Zeus's, and trident mixes. It's fun to switch out the weapons, the maybe three times you get to do it per game. To all of you who see me using my Butch, I am sorry. I know he Kinda sucks. I should use another robot if I really want to help but I feel like I gotta play Him. I don't want to just sit back and push the button to fire, I want to get out and help but the damn robot won't move! I can't imagine the pressure to play him if you purchased him. I would need freaking therapy for that one. I know the temptation is enormous but please do not give into the Darkside Of desire. I'm here to save you!!!!!
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Post by osang on Feb 21, 2017 11:34:23 GMT -5
Only win Butch!!!!! Natasha is better than Butch. She at least can move. I was fortunate enough to win him and thought he would be the best robot to play with. Not dominate everyone, that's not realistic. Especially with their messed up algorithm for placing us together in a Battle. He's way too slow. Turns like an over loaded pontoon. Very unsure of footed! He is almost worthless on the snowy ground. And very lightly armored. I tried him with trebs, Zeus's, and trident mixes. It's fun to switch out the weapons, the maybe three times you get to do it per game. To all of you who see me using my Butch, I am sorry. I know he Kinda sucks. I should use another robot if I really want to help but I feel like I gotta play Him. I don't want to just sit back and push the button to fire, I want to get out and help but the damn robot won't move! I can't imagine the pressure to play him if you purchased him. I would need freaking therapy for that one. I know the temptation is enormous but please do not give into the Darkside Of desire. I'm here to save you!!!!! Luke, I'm your fatheeeerrrr! Join the Darkside!!! |
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Feb 21, 2017 13:09:58 GMT -5
Can't you get some solid use out of it by running thunders? Switch out for the fresh set when your first ones get slow. I don't know, maybe it doesn't last long enough that way to even switch to the next set.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 21, 2017 13:56:04 GMT -5
Can't you get some solid use out of it by running thunders? Switch out for the fresh set when your first ones get slow. I don't know, maybe it doesn't last long enough that way to even switch to the next set. OH no, Thunders will cause you to die. It cannot last long at all in CQB. Definitely a mid-long ranged bot... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 16:15:26 GMT -5
Only win Butch!!!!! Natasha is better than Butch. She at least can move. I was fortunate enough to win him and thought he would be the best robot to play with. Not dominate everyone, that's not realistic. Especially with their messed up algorithm for placing us together in a Battle. He's way too slow. Turns like an over loaded pontoon. Very unsure of footed! He is almost worthless on the snowy ground. And very lightly armored. I tried him with trebs, Zeus's, and trident mixes. It's fun to switch out the weapons, the maybe three times you get to do it per game. To all of you who see me using my Butch, I am sorry. I know he Kinda sucks. I should use another robot if I really want to help but I feel like I gotta play Him. I don't want to just sit back and push the button to fire, I want to get out and help but the damn robot won't move! I can't imagine the pressure to play him if you purchased him. I would need freaking therapy for that one. I know the temptation is enormous but please do not give into the Darkside Of desire. I'm here to save you!!!!! Someone hasn't tried the Trident Zeus Butch yet |
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Post by sorryistinkatthis on Feb 21, 2017 16:45:37 GMT -5
I have tried the Trident Zeus combo and it can be very effective, fo sho. He just has such little armor and move so poorly...
Perhaps my piloting skills are to blame. I can't be the only one to be disappointed him, can I?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 21, 2017 16:52:57 GMT -5
What level is your Cassidy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:00:29 GMT -5
I have tried the Trident Zeus combo and it can be very effective, fo sho. He just has such little armor and move so poorly... Perhaps my piloting skills are to blame. I can't be the only one to be disappointed him, can I? What level is that butch of yours? |
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Post by sorryistinkatthis on Feb 21, 2017 17:02:07 GMT -5
Butch 6, 2 Zeus level 8, 2trbs level 6, or 2 tridents level 6. I am mostly 6-8 on my levels right now. Maybe I am piloting him all wrong but I know I have a legitimate gripe w his movement and survivability for a premium robot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:04:01 GMT -5
Ah. Level 6 bots can be painfully slow. Try getting him to level 8 where he will have near maxed speed.
I'd actually pay 5K gold for a Butch instead of a Fury.
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Post by hulkz1 on Feb 21, 2017 17:08:27 GMT -5
Trident Zeus Butch? LOL
600m is NOT enuff range. You cant move well enuff to have any hope of avoiding anythings wrath. Butch is clumbsy and slow and despite the armor numbers as fragile as a piece of glass. He is fun with trebs at the very beginning but ditch at the first sign of trouble even spirals. Trust me I own 2 Butches and have tried everything. It will be a long time before I trust Pixonic with more of my money.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:53:03 GMT -5
Trident Zeus Butch? LOL 600m is NOT enuff range. You cant move well enuff to have any hope of avoiding anythings wrath. Butch is clumbsy and slow and despite the armor numbers as fragile as a piece of glass. He is fun with trebs at the very beginning but ditch at the first sign of trouble even spirals. Trust me I own 2 Butches and have tried everything. It will be a long time before I trust Pixonic with more of my money. I fought a Butch with the trident zeus combo. Not fun. It is also my preferred midranger in test server. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 21, 2017 18:10:41 GMT -5
The Quad Treb butch is not effective in every map. In some maps like dead city it is almost a liability. The butch is a support bot and is best used to help other blues already under fire.
If that is not your thing there is always the quad zenit variety
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Post by hulkz1 on Feb 21, 2017 18:49:22 GMT -5
Far as I know mine was the first quad zenit Butch. Excellent Cattle Herder but gets boring. Butch cannot be defended in my eyes. I did not expect anything OP when I purchased him. (Won my 2nd one). But I did expect something that could go toe to toe with anything else, (aka lance). As it is, he is so conditional I would not take up a precious hangar slot in a game squaded up with with anybody.
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Post by sorryistinkatthis on Feb 22, 2017 10:12:40 GMT -5
I thank you all thoroughly for taking part in my little experiment in channeling my aggressions toward this little "Butch situation" I have in my noggin. You just saved me an hours worth of therapy $$, I suppose. So, if some of you would, tell an old dude what robots you really like to play and if it's the most effective too.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2017 10:31:12 GMT -5
It looks like speed got buffed to 35 km/h, as well as quickdraw from 45 to 20 seconds. That was huge, I'd run one
Defnitely Treb Butch is going to become common as a Trident Fury if/when it sells for Au.
Trident/Zeus is easily the best though. Stay in Zeus mode until you have a physically shielded target or a group of enemies to take down with Tridents.
I thought Thunders with T or Z were cute but you'd never use them much. More often a mid-ranger will get you before somebody gets that close.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Feb 22, 2017 10:43:05 GMT -5
It looks like speed got buffed to 35 km/h, as well as quickdraw from 45 to 20 seconds. That was huge, I'd run one Defnitely Treb Butch is going to become common as a Trident Fury if/when it sells for Au. Trident/Zeus is easily the best though. Stay in Zeus mode until you have a physically shielded target or a group of enemies to take down with Tridents. I thought Thunders with T or Z were cute but you'd never use them much. More often a mid-ranger will get you before somebody gets that close. i have a butch i won from the lunar event and i am saving up for the second trident to make zues trident. |
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Post by ohm on Feb 22, 2017 17:00:58 GMT -5
I use Butch every so often with 4 trebs.
Good setup for long range as trebs take a while to fully charge. 20s charge yields reasonable damage at once, and then a few pulses more to grind opponent life out until next fully charged set can be swapped in.
Also keeps short lived Butch relatively safe away from knives long enough to be useful, particularly when relief is available for cover during downtime, and on maps such as Yamantau.
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Post by bigduddy on Feb 25, 2017 9:47:25 GMT -5
I use my zenith butch when the mood strikes but it's not a very competitive bot vs other choices.
It's a lot of fun to rain continuous zenith on long range snipers or watch campers scatter.
It does get old fast though.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 25, 2017 10:28:59 GMT -5
One of our top tier players is telling us that the treb Butch is a good counter to the trident Furys that infest long maps. That's the only reason I have some interest in him but one large slow bot is all I can stand in my line up and I like my own trident fury right now.
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Post by kjester on Feb 26, 2017 0:33:50 GMT -5
I haveent gotten my hands on any of the Cowboys yet. I do have a question though.... With Butch, can you place an Ancile on him? If so, when he switches weapons and puts the ancile in the holster, does it still work? Or does it only work when it is drawn?
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Post by DIeGo100% on Feb 26, 2017 2:43:16 GMT -5
I haveent gotten my hands on any of the Cowboys yet. I do have a question though.... With Butch, can you place an Ancile on him? If so, when he switches weapons and puts the ancile in the holster, does it still work? Or does it only work when it is drawn? No,ancile is not avaliable for butch |
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