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Post by Stapleton on Aug 6, 2018 5:18:38 GMT -5
That's me.
I have noticed that the trend now is self preservation at all costs.
People have given up on the game and they don't even know it.
Played a KOTH on yamantau yesterday and actually took a screenshot after dying trying to contest the active beacon. It showed every single one of my teammates - that's right all 5 of them - sat on our home beacon waiting for it to go active. For context we were on the side where the covered walkway is to your right if you are facing out to the map from home.
By the time I made it to the edge of our raised platform our beacon had already started and finished, and the red home beacon was active. Centre beacon next, i'm in an RDB but I guess I'm going alone as my 5 colleagues are heading to our side beacon or sniping from the platform.
Needless to say I didn't manage to get the centre beacon. We lost the match.
Canyon, BR; 3 teammates in zeus/dragoon furys, quite content to vie for top damage all match without contesting any beacons. Myself and a couple of hapless teammates frantically trying to protect our side beacon and take centre. We lose again. I get top beacons but bottom damage and -22. Of course I did no damage, i'm constantly outnumbered!
With all the recent changes maybe this is just the way it will be in future. Why bother if you think you're going to lose to a staintrain avalanche? Just sit back, snipe and preserve your precious league ranking at the expense of your teammates.
I suppose at least they're not tanking.
Seriously considering ditching main hangar play altogether and just playing 6 pack. Or at least I would, if I hadn't just finally gotten a haechi and pursuer (new economy upgrade times of course) that i've been aching to play with since they came out!
Maybe I'll create a "can't be arsed" hangar of spiral/hydra/zenit/noricum builds and sit back drop huge turds on my enemies at the expense of my own teammates. Except I can't bring myself to be part of the problem!
Rrrrrrwwwwaaaaarghahahaferghaaargh!!!!!!!
Ok thank you for listening I feel much better now.
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Post by Paps on Aug 6, 2018 5:24:23 GMT -5
I've been a lot happier (relatively speaking) since I scaled back how much I play.
I'll stick to 6-pak with the occasional live-server game thrown in to remind me why I don't bother anymore.
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Post by windcaster on Aug 6, 2018 16:17:11 GMT -5
Feeds on it self.
I remember running out there to center in my Kumi.. capture it.. try to suppress a horde of Red's coming take it.. look back thinking my backup's coming, just gonna hold on.. and watch them all turn away and head to the next beacon..
Of course then you either fight and die or try to run and probably still die.
After a while of that you stop caring.
Im guilty of the same selfish behavior now.. I don't play many team games, mostly FFA for me.
But when I do get in a KOTH I don't bust my hump... If I get some beacons great, if I kill some reds great.. but sticking your neck out and getting it chopped off.. after a while you learn.
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Post by BossieBos on Aug 6, 2018 17:34:07 GMT -5
Yeah, the lack of balls is often very much present on KOTH.
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 8, 2018 12:47:07 GMT -5
That's me. I have noticed that the trend now is self preservation at all costs. People have given up on the game and they don't even know it. Played a KOTH on yamantau yesterday and actually took a screenshot after dying trying to contest the active beacon. It showed every single one of my teammates - that's right all 5 of them - sat on our home beacon waiting for it to go active. For context we were on the side where the covered walkway is to your right if you are facing out to the map from home. By the time I made it to the edge of our raised platform our beacon had already started and finished, and the red home beacon was active. Centre beacon next, i'm in an RDB but I guess I'm going alone as my 5 colleagues are heading to our side beacon or sniping from the platform. Needless to say I didn't manage to get the centre beacon. We lost the match. Canyon, BR; 3 teammates in zeus/dragoon furys, quite content to vie for top damage all match without contesting any beacons. Myself and a couple of hapless teammates frantically trying to protect our side beacon and take centre. We lose again. I get top beacons but bottom damage and -22. Of course I did no damage, i'm constantly outnumbered! With all the recent changes maybe this is just the way it will be in future. Why bother if you think you're going to lose to a staintrain avalanche? Just sit back, snipe and preserve your precious league ranking at the expense of your teammates. I suppose at least they're not tanking. Seriously considering ditching main hangar play altogether and just playing 6 pack. Or at least I would, if I hadn't just finally gotten a haechi and pursuer (new economy upgrade times of course) that i've been aching to play with since they came out! Maybe I'll create a "can't be arsed" hangar of spiral/hydra/zenit/noricum builds and sit back drop huge turds on my enemies at the expense of my own teammates. Except I can't bring myself to be part of the problem! Rrrrrrwwwwaaaaarghahahaferghaaargh!!!!!!! Ok thank you for listening I feel much better now. I feel your pain and it is getting so bad that along with all Pixonics crud it is making the game down right crap. Some of us start out going for the contested beacons and die without backup, eventually I end up in a range bot with some A hole who hasnt done jack but shoot tulumbas or shocktrains the entire match and has no beacons trying to push me off a ledge and shoot me. When it is clear we are going to lose the 「dookie」heads act like they care. I had a member of BigJJs clan do just this in the last week then invite me to a squad. He preceded to tell me thanks for sitting in range the entire match and thanks for making us lose then he left before I could respond. ( He said some choice cuss words as well towards me of course) The truth was I went to center capped it and was killed without any backup. We didn't hold center again the rest the map on canyon. I ended the game top beacons and damage, loser mad boy had ZERO beacons and placed 2 or 3rd and . I never once saw him take his fancy bots into harms way knowingly. People like this who invite someone telling them they suck when the they are actually much worse is down right hilarious and sad. Get beacons puck boy get beacons. |
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 8, 2018 14:07:28 GMT -5
When I play KOTH, I'll run for the CB and if no one from my side backs me up, and I die in a blaze of glory before I even reach the beacon, then I know I'm with a bunch of twits. I might try to help out at a contested beacon if we are ahead or close in score, but if I see we are far behind, I won't even bother. I'll just fly back and forth between the 2 "safe" beacons so that I don't end with a negative score. However, if I arrive at that first beacon with a bunch of blues, then I know I'm in for a good game.
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Post by hi5 on Aug 8, 2018 14:23:41 GMT -5
This is a logical evolution based on how Pix rewards performance.
Winning matches alone (or attempting to win them) does not equal league progression.
If the goal is to progress, then in KOTH it’s beacon points that matter and in all other modes it’s damage. Until this changes, this situation will remain the same.
I mostly do not care about league placement since they nerfed supply drops, but I do try to stay above 5000 to get the Champions League drop if I can. And I’m guilty of baby sitting beacons in KOTH or damage whoring at these times. Other times I do what I can for the win.
Bottom line, it’s not the players it’s the game.
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Post by moses on Aug 8, 2018 15:12:07 GMT -5
Playing KOTH - that was your first mistake...
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Post by Stapleton on Aug 8, 2018 17:11:54 GMT -5
Playing KOTH - that was your first mistake... I don't rage quit or tank so what else is left but to play it? |
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Post by moses on Aug 8, 2018 20:19:45 GMT -5
Playing KOTH - that was your first mistake... I don't rage quit or tank so what else is left but to play it? Just leave the battle before the count down finishes. MM will replace you (with some poor unfortunate with less time on the clock to escape) so game remains 6v6 and no impact on the game outcome / your stats / league score. If the count down is finished stay in and play and don’t leave other modes and should be no issue. |
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Aug 8, 2018 20:33:10 GMT -5
There are 2 kinds of KOTH players: Those who fight and capture the objective like normal, then there's those guys in the distance firing homing missiles and treb shots from the corner of the map on their first spawn. |
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Post by BigJJ on Aug 9, 2018 11:40:22 GMT -5
That's me. I have noticed that the trend now is self preservation at all costs. People have given up on the game and they don't even know it. Played a KOTH on yamantau yesterday and actually took a screenshot after dying trying to contest the active beacon. It showed every single one of my teammates - that's right all 5 of them - sat on our home beacon waiting for it to go active. For context we were on the side where the covered walkway is to your right if you are facing out to the map from home. By the time I made it to the edge of our raised platform our beacon had already started and finished, and the red home beacon was active. Centre beacon next, i'm in an RDB but I guess I'm going alone as my 5 colleagues are heading to our side beacon or sniping from the platform. Needless to say I didn't manage to get the centre beacon. We lost the match. Canyon, BR; 3 teammates in zeus/dragoon furys, quite content to vie for top damage all match without contesting any beacons. Myself and a couple of hapless teammates frantically trying to protect our side beacon and take centre. We lose again. I get top beacons but bottom damage and -22. Of course I did no damage, i'm constantly outnumbered! With all the recent changes maybe this is just the way it will be in future. Why bother if you think you're going to lose to a staintrain avalanche? Just sit back, snipe and preserve your precious league ranking at the expense of your teammates. I suppose at least they're not tanking. Seriously considering ditching main hangar play altogether and just playing 6 pack. Or at least I would, if I hadn't just finally gotten a haechi and pursuer (new economy upgrade times of course) that i've been aching to play with since they came out! Maybe I'll create a "can't be arsed" hangar of spiral/hydra/zenit/noricum builds and sit back drop huge turds on my enemies at the expense of my own teammates. Except I can't bring myself to be part of the problem! Rrrrrrwwwwaaaaarghahahaferghaaargh!!!!!!! Ok thank you for listening I feel much better now. I feel your pain and it is getting so bad that along with all Pixonics crud it is making the game down right crap. Some of us start out going for the contested beacons and die without backup, eventually I end up in a range bot with some A hole who hasnt done jack but shoot tulumbas or shocktrains the entire match and has no beacons trying to push me off a ledge and shoot me. When it is clear we are going to lose the ?dookie?heads act like they care. I had a member of BigJJs clan do just this in the last week then invite me to a squad. He preceded to tell me thanks for sitting in range the entire match and thanks for making us lose then he left before I could respond. ( He said some choice cuss words as well towards me of course) The truth was I went to center capped it and was killed without any backup. We didn't hold center again the rest the map on canyon. I ended the game top beacons and damage, loser mad boy had ZERO beacons and placed 2 or 3rd and . I never once saw him take his fancy bots into harms way knowingly. People like this who invite someone telling them they suck when the they are actually much worse is down right hilarious and sad. Get beacons puck boy get beacons. I'm sorry to hear one of my members was rude and disrespectful to you. Could you please let me know the in game name of the person who did this? I would like to look into this personally. I don't condone such behavior and will not tolerate it! |
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Post by Stapleton on Aug 9, 2018 13:40:35 GMT -5
Its all kicking off now! How exciting!
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 9, 2018 13:41:59 GMT -5
I feel your pain and it is getting so bad that along with all Pixonics crud it is making the game down right crap. Some of us start out going for the contested beacons and die without backup, eventually I end up in a range bot with some A hole who hasnt done jack but shoot tulumbas or shocktrains the entire match and has no beacons trying to push me off a ledge and shoot me. When it is clear we are going to lose the ?dookie?heads act like they care. I had a member of BigJJs clan do just this in the last week then invite me to a squad. He preceded to tell me thanks for sitting in range the entire match and thanks for making us lose then he left before I could respond. ( He said some choice cuss words as well towards me of course) The truth was I went to center capped it and was killed without any backup. We didn't hold center again the rest the map on canyon. I ended the game top beacons and damage, loser mad boy had ZERO beacons and placed 2 or 3rd and . I never once saw him take his fancy bots into harms way knowingly. People like this who invite someone telling them they suck when the they are actually much worse is down right hilarious and sad. Get beacons puck boy get beacons. I'm sorry to hear one of my members was rude and disrespectful to you. Could you please let me know the in game name of the person who did this? I would like to look into this personally. I don't condone such behavior and will not tolerate it! I knew you wouldn't like this. I figured you would see this post, unfortunately all I remember was he had some kind of oriental character or emblem with his name. I didn't get a screen shot as he invited me before hand. I was going to explain I was down to my last bot and the entire story but he just cussed and dropped. My hope was you just send a reminder out to all as I know you have some newer clan members. Keep rocking your YouTube I get hours of entertainment watching and I always enjoy getting my behind handed to me by you and your clan.... It is a good challenge! |
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Post by BigJJ on Aug 9, 2018 13:55:18 GMT -5
Does "IRIS ? ??" or "???me" ring a bell?
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Post by BigJJ on Aug 9, 2018 13:56:37 GMT -5
Thank's for the kind word's, M'man!!
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 9, 2018 20:48:48 GMT -5
Does "IRIS ? ??" or "???me" ring a bell? I think it was one but since I can't be 100% sure I won't say. Just wanted you to know as I doubted you wanted your members doing this. We all have bad days and we know how Pix matchmaker can be so can i understand. I have shot a few blue range bots myself in the past it was the invite and comments that blew me away. Thanks for the response. Happy hunting until we meet on the battlefield again. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Aug 14, 2018 6:20:30 GMT -5
Play on Amazon. Never have to play game modes that you do not want to. No LPQ. Stomp noobs in every match. Whoo-hoo!!
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