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Post by Joopiter on Aug 1, 2018 12:10:38 GMT -5
honest question, how many hours do play daily? Let's compute. To reach champion crate requires 1650 HP, and he made it 4 times. The total being 6,600 HP. So, let's assume the person is always number 1 (big assumption), this translates to 660 games, which yields 10HP/game. Given each game is 10 minutes, this now becomes 6600 minutes. which equates to 110 hours. Given July had 31 days, by simple division we get 3.5 hours/day. Forgive me for being blunt but the amount of time required to get such items is what i find ridiculous. Not to pick the fly ã??dookieã? out of the pepper here, but your numbers are too kind Ushtar. I do agree with you completely. Although, 8 honor pts is max per game so the hours are 4.44 a day (again assuming your 1st every game). Well I work a minimum of 10 hrs, so if I sleep 8 hours (hypothetically) then that leaves me 1.56 hours to eat, drive, phone calls, etc. We are talking about a world that REVOLVES around War Robots. And we are talking months, even years to grind to get the new economy robots leveled with new weapons all leveled. As far as adrian goes, I think he's a good dude, but in a tough spot. First he can't put himself in a lot of our places because the guy is just DAMN GOOD at this game. The average player like me can't crank out 1mil damage consistently and reap those resource benefits. Also, he's not a sell out but he definitely gives Pixonic the benefit of the doubt. He's not chugging the koolaid, but when they tell him that they have ideas in the works for making things easier for the player, he doesn't fully consider their sneakiness. He doesn't seem to be someone that gets into the figures and cost details. I don't think he's sold on how they manipulate the player by putting out consistent false statements yet doing the contrary in-game. I've heard him say that Pix is going to make it easier on the player to get premium gear, but it'll be harder to level. What get's left out is that it's not harder to level.... it's ?fluffernutter?ing insane to level now. I post on his YT comments so I may put some of that math in there to maybe catch his attention. If he said something was unfair in his videos then you know pixonic will take notice of it, at least 1000 times better chance than me sending a help desk complaint lol.
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Post by linearblade on Aug 1, 2018 13:07:48 GMT -5
Adrian is not one of us. He cannot possibly speak for 'regular' players because he is not one himself. He gets top-tier, maxed out gear from Pigsuckit for making videos. Maybe he does have his own personal account where he has to grind for stuff, but the fact is he has all the highest end gear that he DID NOT HAVE TO GRIND FOR. Spin it any way you want, he does not and cannot have the same perspective toward the game as the rest of us. That is nonsensical dribble. I’ve played Adrian and indeed all of vox several times. Predator is particularly good. I qualified for champion this season vs noob on 3 of my 5 placement matches. Another ridiculously good clan. In fact practically everyone in the legend league is good. Really really good. Vox is rarely on the legend list, but they are very good. Adrian grinds, just like every other player deep into champion
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Post by Thunderkiss on Aug 1, 2018 13:12:08 GMT -5
Lol, thanks for clarifying unrelated gibberish. Very helpful. lol, now i see why you feel so resentful with that crap hangar you'rle running. Lol not sure what you're on about, but my hangar is just where I want it. Lay off the pipe.
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Post by linearblade on Aug 1, 2018 13:15:08 GMT -5
Actually yea this month, thatâ??s about how much time. Two reasons. 1) use the 15 minute honor point booster. Get 3 games in. This means yo need to end two of your games in under 15 minutes to ride the 3rd for profit. This should yield a net of around 25 pts minimum. 2) any time the skirmish is out, itâ??s near guaranteed max honor points. The ffa games are guaranteed 10 pts. So these days are honor booster free days. Sweet deal since they yield honor. The entire honor reward tree is around 5000 gold to spend and get with honor reward booster. So doing it 4 times = two times. But wait, you spent 10k gold?? It takes money to make money. Or in this game, gold. I didnâ??t have to spend. Why? Because I earn gold from the daily , the gold chest, winning games, and most importantly the royale. So in reality, I spend half the time , to get twice the reward. Been thinking about gold and the royale the last few days. You appear to have your analysis ?dookie? together - any thoughts on royale gold payout? (Didnâ??t see any new threads on this post 4.0 & new Econ) Noticed the last Bulwark royale has a TON of gold, like 7500 - compared to much meager payouts for the other royales. I was tempted enough to play a few cards for the first time in a while. Hit all the trash as expected, and didnâ??t have enough tokens to make a serious push so cut it off at 40k tokens. But got me thinking maybe there is a strategy to wait for gold loaded royales to hit hard, now that I could care less about getting any of the new component gear they include. I was going to calculate this soon. I have to do it several times tho, as pixonic does this gambling bit alittle too much. My feeling. Tho is the amount of gold acquired is competitive to the value of the tokens used. Spend 1million tokens wisely and you will end up with 50 dollars in gold... plus the components
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 13:42:25 GMT -5
I ran that 4 times last month. Came away with almost 2 avenger. And 1 Weyland + 1 mender and 1.5 chimera. Plus enough silver to mk2 BOTH avenger and enough gold to max them out and buy third hangar slot. Using the tokens carefully in the royale will give you gold and finish bots. Does this take time? Yes it takes time . But it’s much more reasonable than the haechi or bulgi events. Yup, that's what I've been doing too, although I'll never be able to complete the battle rewards four times. So what I do is spend my gold on points boosters so I get 12-14 per battle and then use bronze chests to get silver, gold and tokens. And as you pointed out, playing royale wisely gives you lots of part you want and occasionally nice gold payout. Edit: Just saw you use 15 min boosters too. They are much better value than longer ones because you can squeeze in more games for equivalent time period.
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Post by linearblade on Aug 1, 2018 14:11:43 GMT -5
I ran that 4 times last month. Came away with almost 2 avenger. And 1 Weyland + 1 mender and 1.5 chimera. Plus enough silver to mk2 BOTH avenger and enough gold to max them out and buy third hangar slot. Using the tokens carefully in the royale will give you gold and finish bots. Does this take time? Yes it takes time . But it’s much more reasonable than the haechi or bulgi events. Yup, that's what I've been doing too, although I'll never be able to complete the battle rewards four times. So what I do is spend my gold on points boosters so I get 12-14 per battle and then use bronze chests to get silver, gold and tokens. And as you pointed out, playing royale wisely gives you lots of part you want and occasionally nice gold payout. Edit: Just saw you use 15 min boosters too. They are much better value than longer ones because you can squeeze in more games for equivalent time period. Yes short boosters are best because the slippage is in your favor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 14:47:26 GMT -5
New economy essentially locks new (or returning in my case) players in low leagues indefinitely. No argument there. And this is what I and many others have been saying since the new economy has been announced. But we get fair amount of new players coming in and essentially saying "the game is great, stop whining". So a lot of us with old economy hangars just shut up and collect the rewards.
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Post by stokr on Aug 1, 2018 15:42:29 GMT -5
Lol, thanks for clarifying unrelated gibberish. Very helpful. lol, now i see why you feel so resentful with that crap hangar you're running. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you're probably not looking at the account with the Mk2 12 ST Spectre, amongst other things. Just an FYI, some folk have more than one active account.
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Post by Imbafreak on Aug 1, 2018 16:36:13 GMT -5
I was watching/listening to the podcast for an hour or so up to the part when they spoke about the new economy and there I lost it. Adrian stated that they've got too far at first but then started defending pixonic by saying stuff like if they reel some of the aspects back in a bit they will cut us off from stuff like boosters from the chests. I'm sorry if I offend anyone by saying THIS IS UTTER AND TOTAL BULL「dookie」. As a low champion league player I'm struggling to earn the silver needed even for my grandfathered gear, let alone to level my new spectre to minimum useful L10. Pixonic's policy in the last 6 months was to gradually take away privileges from players and giving us only a portion back with the latest example being the silver costs in the new economy being the taking away and introducing silver boosters being the giving portion of it back. Then there are examples of something being taken from us and instead of giving something back, they took even more from us. Reducing the amount of keys from the supply drops and then increasing the amount of keys needed for the SC by 2/3. I haven't seen a single update that was in the favor of the average player like myself and many others here. I'm sorry to say but, Adrian Chong, you are so full of it.
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Post by descentx on Aug 1, 2018 18:11:52 GMT -5
lol, now i see why you feel so resentful with that crap hangar you'rle running. Lol not sure what you're on about, but my hangar is just where I want it. Lay off the pipe. okay if you say so scrub.
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Post by stokr on Aug 1, 2018 18:58:49 GMT -5
I watched/listened to that whole thing and felt like so much was couched and avoided and hedged that...at least to me...it was empty and completely devoid of value.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 19:49:29 GMT -5
I watched/listened to that whole thing and felt like so much was couched and avoided and hedged that...at least to me...it was empty and completely devoid of value. I thought that I'm the only one seeing it that way. I only lasted through small portion of it, it felt like verbal diarrhea. One guy who didn't know how to interview and another who didn't know how to give an interview. They burned a lot of time stating the obvious and doing pretty much doing anything but getting to the point. Here's one question from the video: "And do you think they understood what you were saying?" No, they only spoke Russian and Adrian English so they just talked past each other. Sigh, what a waste of time.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 1, 2018 20:03:19 GMT -5
Adrian is not one of us. He cannot possibly speak for 'regular' players because he is not one himself. He gets top-tier, maxed out gear from Pigsuckit for making videos. Maybe he does have his own personal account where he has to grind for stuff, but the fact is he has all the highest end gear that he DID NOT HAVE TO GRIND FOR. Spin it any way you want, he does not and cannot have the same perspective toward the game as the rest of us. HAHA he doesn't get crap for making videos from PIX except the use of the Rec Account which if you look at his weekly activity numbers he doesn't play 1/10th what he does his normal account. I should end right here as it just shows the ignorance but I wont! As for the same perspective as the rest of us...... You mean those that haven't played 8 hours a day for 4 years. He does very well with his perspective to those at his level. Funny how everyone complains he cant relate when they are the ones not relating to where he is at. It is his account and YouTube channel after all. Does he rant and rave at Pix? No Does he like everything they do? No Does he play the game like few do putting in untold hours YES he has. Chill out on hating someone who isn't a 「cotton headed ninny muggins」 and save it for Pix and the carpetbaggers that haven't invested all the time and energy into the game that he has. OK I am out of this thread now carry on the hate and bashing its so cool and easy to do. I'm not hating. I'm saying he doesn't speak for me or other players like me. That's a far cry from hating. I never said he gets paid or anything else from Pix, other than that maxed out hangar. You're splitting hairs here between how he gets to play that account -- he has access to it, the rest of us don't. If I could just switch my crap hangar for one like that whenever I wanted, I'd have an entirely different opinion of the game and the company, too. As for all the hours he's spent on this thing, it's a 「fluffernutter」ing game. Anybody who spends that much time on a game seriously needs to reexamine their priorities.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 1, 2018 20:11:48 GMT -5
Adrian is not one of us. He cannot possibly speak for 'regular' players because he is not one himself. He gets top-tier, maxed out gear from Pigsuckit for making videos. Maybe he does have his own personal account where he has to grind for stuff, but the fact is he has all the highest end gear that he DID NOT HAVE TO GRIND FOR. Spin it any way you want, he does not and cannot have the same perspective toward the game as the rest of us. That is nonsensical dribble. Iâve played Adrian and indeed all of vox several times. Predator is particularly good. I qualified for champion this season vs noob on 3 of my 5 placement matches. Another ridiculously good clan. In fact practically everyone in the legend league is good. Really really good. Vox is rarely on the legend list, but they are very good. Adrian grinds, just like every other player deep into champion Did I say anywhere that he isn't good? Did I day anywhere that he doesn't grind? I said he gets to play a maxed-out, top-tier hangar that he didn't have to grind for, all in exchange for simply making 「fluffernutter」Nightingale YouTube vids.
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Post by descentx on Aug 1, 2018 21:50:26 GMT -5
That is nonsensical dribble. Iâ??ve played Adrian and indeed all of vox several times. Predator is particularly good. I qualified for champion this season vs noob on 3 of my 5 placement matches. Another ridiculously good clan. In fact practically everyone in the legend league is good. Really really good. Vox is rarely on the legend list, but they are very good. Adrian grinds, just like every other player deep into champion Did I say anywhere that he isn't good? Did I day anywhere that he doesn't grind? I said he gets to play a maxed-out, top-tier hangar that he didn't have to grind for, all in exchange for simply making ?fluffernutter?Nightingale YouTube vids. and let not forget his personal account that he invested so money into it so it a win lost situation tomorrow the game may die and there goes the hangar down the toilet. People need not to forget these small time YouTuber's are far beyond no where near making any money compared other big names youtubers. People need to stop grilling Adrian dude is not perfect if we were all perfect we be living in Utopia right now.
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 2, 2018 8:15:46 GMT -5
HAHA he doesn't get crap for making videos from PIX except the use of the Rec Account which if you look at his weekly activity numbers he doesn't play 1/10th what he does his normal account. I should end right here as it just shows the ignorance but I wont! As for the same perspective as the rest of us...... You mean those that haven't played 8 hours a day for 4 years. He does very well with his perspective to those at his level. Funny how everyone complains he cant relate when they are the ones not relating to where he is at. It is his account and YouTube channel after all. Does he rant and rave at Pix? No Does he like everything they do? No Does he play the game like few do putting in untold hours YES he has. Chill out on hating someone who isn't a 「cotton headed ninny muggins」 and save it for Pix and the carpetbaggers that haven't invested all the time and energy into the game that he has. OK I am out of this thread now carry on the hate and bashing its so cool and easy to do. I'm not hating. I'm saying he doesn't speak for me or other players like me. That's a far cry from hating. I never said he gets paid or anything else from Pix, other than that maxed out hangar. You're splitting hairs here between how he gets to play that account -- he has access to it, the rest of us don't. If I could just switch my crap hangar for one like that whenever I wanted, I'd have an entirely different opinion of the game and the company, too. As for all the hours he's spent on this thing, it's a ?fluffernutter?ing game. Anybody who spends that much time on a game seriously needs to reexamine their priorities. I still love you Bro.
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Post by Destroyer on Aug 2, 2018 11:18:21 GMT -5
I’m sure nobody wants to hear this. But honor rewards gives ridiculous returns. If you complete champion tree it’s a filthy amount of tokens silver and components. I ran that 4 times last month. Came away with almost 2 avenger. And 1 Weyland + 1 mender and 1.5 chimera. Plus enough silver to mk2 BOTH avenger and enough gold to max them out and buy third hangar slot. Using the tokens carefully in the royale will give you gold and finish bots. Does this take time? Yes it takes time . But it’s much more reasonable than the haechi or bulgi events. Those took nonstop effort for 2 weeks. These can be completed in your own time Problem is now if you don't already have a champ hanger, you won't be getting one for a very, very, very long time (like several years) without spending a fortune, unless you can run that champion tree, which you can't, because you don't don't have a champ hanger already. New economy essentially locks new (or returning in my case) players in low leagues indefinitely. trust me, a guy with a champ hangar, being locked in a low league is a blessing.
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Post by The VVatcher on Aug 2, 2018 11:37:13 GMT -5
I watched/listened to that whole thing and felt like so much was couched and avoided and hedged that...at least to me...it was empty and completely devoid of value. I thought that I'm the only one seeing it that way. I only lasted through small portion of it, it felt like verbal diarrhea. One guy who didn't know how to interview and another who didn't know how to give an interview. They burned a lot of time stating the obvious and doing pretty much doing anything but getting to the point. Here's one question from the video: "And do you think they understood what you were saying?" No, they only spoke Russian and Adrian English so they just talked past each other. Sigh, what a waste of time. This. And this. It has one guy who seemed too interested in talking about his views and keeps interrupting Adrian, when Adrian’s the one we want to hear. And the other guy thinking of a question the whole time then finally asks an irrelevant “so what time did you get there?” veering off the topic. It was excruciating, but I’m gonna give it another shot.
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Post by hyderier on Aug 2, 2018 13:51:04 GMT -5
Man, he loves defending the cluster?fluffernutter? that is War Robots. Thoughts to take away - get tokens to get gold / components get gold for deals / upgrades get battle rewards for silver / tokens get supply drops for silver and keys get keys to get gold / silver and random crap (looking at you gust / storm / arbalest) War Robots, where you grind to your grave. The secret of War Robots as it is now, for non-millionaires, is to not try to get anything. Get that out of your head! I mean, sure, you should upgrade stuff you have, and get new stuff when you can, but don't try to do that. Because that aspect of the game (advancing your hangar) is royally (pun intended) broken.
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Post by Poopface on Aug 16, 2018 11:26:04 GMT -5
Lol not sure what you're on about, but my hangar is just where I want it. Lay off the pipe. okay if you say so scrub. I'm sorry for being late to the party.
descentx -- this isn't acceptable. Consider this as your First Strike according to the Code of Conduct. Continued aggressive behavior like you've shown in this thread will get you a bit of time to rethink your approach.
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