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Post by rags on Jul 25, 2018 11:25:49 GMT -5
I’m running legacy + 1 haechi. Mk1 weapons.... I can wipe the floor with Champions League players who have full MK2 component bot hangars... UNLESS there’s multiple shocktrain bots on red. without any stealth or monster shields you just can’t even move when there’s more than one of these out. Nothing else has this effect. Nerf this POS weapon already. They’re STILL the #1 thing ruining this game.
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Post by rags on Jul 25, 2018 11:28:24 GMT -5
Oh that’s right, here’s some stealth bots and bulgasaris to counter for $300 lolol yea right. Enjoy ur shrinking Champions League.
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Post by tharnage on Jul 25, 2018 11:49:00 GMT -5
They are going to be even more powerful if this manual aim comes into effect.
Hitting stealth bots if they are in correct line of sight will become an option then.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 25, 2018 11:51:02 GMT -5
Really should be in Rants...
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Post by ranchpig on Jul 25, 2018 11:59:39 GMT -5
With the new Nerf/Buff??? my lance has been quite vulnerable. They're shooting between the shields more often than I like. Thought I was immune and charged right at a mk2 spectre and wow, 1 shot, 3/4 HP was gone. That was a shocker... excuse the pun.
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Post by Domino on Jul 25, 2018 12:23:36 GMT -5
You will notice 9/10 1st place goes to the guy with ST's.. They almost guarantee you highest dmg if you just peek and shoot long enough.
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Post by CrownBlack on Jul 25, 2018 12:32:25 GMT -5
Oh that’s right, here’s some stealth bots and bulgasaris to counter for $300 lolol yea right. Enjoy ur shrinking Champions League. this is the more correct answer...it is just as much ST's as it is stealth bots. Bulgs you can counter with Tulu's or Orks. Stealth just sit around and hide for every 20 seconds. Game has ZERO flow just a lot of camping Spectres and Quizes. Combine this and TDM and I would rather paint the bathroom than play that. It has become just boring and just MEH! |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 25, 2018 12:43:08 GMT -5
I'm getting tempted to dedicate some time to an artillery build right about now. They can chase the little pricks out of cover or force them to prematurely jump.
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Post by rags on Jul 25, 2018 12:47:19 GMT -5
Oh that’s right, here’s some stealth bots and bulgasaris to counter for $300 lolol yea right. Enjoy ur shrinking Champions League. this is the more correct answer...it is just as much ST's as it is stealth bots. Bulgs you can counter with Tulu's or Orks. Stealth just sit around and hide for every 20 seconds. Game has ZERO flow just a lot of camping Spectres and Quizes. Combine this and TDM and I would rather paint the bathroom than play that. It has become just boring and just MEH! I don’t have any problems fighting stealth. the excessive camping is becuz ppl need to let stealth recharge to move or else they’ll get half their HP shocked off |
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Post by protectionoffsafety on Jul 25, 2018 12:54:00 GMT -5
Oh that’s right, here’s some stealth bots and bulgasaris to counter for $300 lolol yea right. Enjoy ur shrinking Champions League. this is the more correct answer...it is just as much ST's as it is stealth bots. Bulgs you can counter with Tulu's or Orks. Stealth just sit around and hide for every 20 seconds. Game has ZERO flow just a lot of camping Spectres and Quizes. Combine this and TDM and I would rather paint the bathroom than play that. It has become just boring and just MEH! Agreed! I don't have so much of a problem with spectre as I do with STs. An orkan or taran spectre has to at least get close enough to me and i can use cover to my advantage to dodge his attack. A ST spectre on the other side of the map taking 3/4 of my health in one shot with no exposure to harm for him whenever I get out of cover for 1 second or when engaging with another red is not fun. It has turned the game into something not worth playing imo. |
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Post by endyu on Jul 25, 2018 12:55:21 GMT -5
Pix should remove the ST from the game by offering us a direct swap for another medium weapon, similarly leveled.
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Post by Sig on Jul 25, 2018 13:07:42 GMT -5
Pix should remove the ST from the game by offering us a direct swap for another medium weapon, similarly leveled. This is a really good idea. |
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Post by firewoman on Jul 25, 2018 13:59:24 GMT -5
Pix should remove the ST from the game by offering us a direct swap for another medium weapon, similarly leveled. Personally think they should just make the ST a heavy weapon, since it's already as powerful as one. Then the only way people could have 3+ would be to use a Fury or a Butch. In my opinion, it would solve a lot of the problems with it. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 25, 2018 14:31:54 GMT -5
No point in speculating or hoping...the ST is here to stay...
I'm looking forward to the balance. As a ST user, it'll make my life a little easier over all, and hopefully make some Spectre miss when they jump fire.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 15:00:50 GMT -5
They should convert it to Shock, leave the train and chain damage..
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Post by Domino on Jul 25, 2018 17:11:34 GMT -5
They should convert it to Shock, leave the train and chain damage.. Insider info: a heavy version of ST is being developed. Difference is it has a chance for root for every person it chain hits |
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Post by bruzy101 on Jul 25, 2018 21:15:59 GMT -5
Here is my take. ST can be fought against on other bots except spectre and bulg. There are hardly any builds that the average pilot can use to counter at 500m. Tulumbas might work but they have stealth and dash. Many players brag about having it in their hanger but hardly run it but we all play... we kno thats bs
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Post by Crow T. Robot on Jul 26, 2018 0:46:00 GMT -5
I'm getting tempted to dedicate some time to an artillery build right about now. They can chase the little pricks out of cover or force them to prematurely jump. I was thinking the same thing. It might be time to dust off some zenits and noricums and level them up. |
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Post by cheap on Jul 26, 2018 4:01:28 GMT -5
i use a Fury(9) 2 Dragoon lvl(9)(10) Zenit(9) that i use in Expert to Deal with St an Hydra builds. Zenits to harass them when they Camp and the Dragoon when they peek out or jump or Dash away or the build helps flush them out for teammates. i can usally hit them with the Dragoons manual aim if they stealth.
its a pretty good build.
results will vary
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 26, 2018 7:17:50 GMT -5
I'm getting tempted to dedicate some time to an artillery build right about now. They can chase the little pricks out of cover or force them to prematurely jump. I was thinking the same thing. It might be time to dust off some zenits and noricums and level them up. yeah,you have to level them up obscenely high for them to be useful though. My problem is that I have too many other things to level up before I can focus on a good artillery build. Unlike some folks, I do appreciate a good arty bot on my team and will do what I can to protect them. It's the kind of build where you can't see the benefits unless you're at ground zero of where the rockets fall. |
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Jul 26, 2018 7:40:44 GMT -5
I'm getting tempted to dedicate some time to an artillery build right about now. They can chase the little pricks out of cover or force them to prematurely jump. Only if the pilot you are against is desperately clueless. Zeniths and Noricums are very, very simple to avoid without exposing yourself. You literally just move backwards and forwards, a 30M area is all you need and you don't need to leave cover to do it. Once the first few miss they pilot will try to pick on someone else. They are also dreadfully slow. A good, aware pilot will know they are coming so suprise won't help either. Not saying that some people don't love them and I am talking champion league here, Lower down they might work really well.... but you gotta ask if it's worth the investment. |
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Post by rags on Jul 26, 2018 9:06:45 GMT -5
Hydras are better for a ST counter
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Post by endyu on Jul 26, 2018 10:16:45 GMT -5
i use a Fury(9) 2 Dragoon lvl(9)(10) Zenit(9) that i use in Expert to Deal with St an Hydra builds. Zenits to harass them when they Camp and the Dragoon when they peek out or jump or Dash away or the build helps flush them out for teammates. i can usally hit them with the Dragoons manual aim if they stealth. its a pretty good build. results will vary I think you should try Dragoons and Noricums on a Natasha. Seems way easier to hit targets with Noricums than Zenits |
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Post by smokeyjoe on Jul 27, 2018 11:39:11 GMT -5
They should be renamed 「meow」 trains.
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Post by thapusher on Aug 6, 2018 7:00:42 GMT -5
I played for about 8 months. had a blast, was really enjoying it. then i got into diamond league and from here (ad i assume it just gets worse from here)its all shotcktrain bulgs and spectres. my last fight of the night the fight started with 3 spectrs, 2 bulg and a kohimo, ALL shocktrained. I used to like te because there was still a certain level of pilot skill and strategy to move around, flank ppl, get kills, use the right weapons, etc. but not, it's just losing half your health every couple seconds because the guy next to the guy next to the guy beside you got hit, with little recourse because they are just stealthed when they jump up to shoot. if you try and move after that, his buddies jump up and stagger the shocktrain. it's just stupid. Gonna play something else, maybe check back later and see if they fixed it or not, would be a shame to ruin what a a promising and fun game for the majority of pilots just to cater to the needs of the lesser skilled, but more $ flux whale players.
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