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Post by garunixreborn on Jul 17, 2018 17:27:21 GMT -5
Ok, it's fine for people to hate youtubers. Some people have legitimate reasons for hating them, which is fine. They may act really stupid, have terrible opinions, or give out false advice to people. But Manni is one youtuber that has gotten A LOT of hate for some weird or outright stupid reasons. Let me list all the arguments people give: - Manni is annoying to listen to - Ok, I know that I cannot convince you that something is not annoying, but I can tell you why. He is a german born person who's first language is german. He often stutters on words or gets the wrong word. It's normal to be wrong when speaking your second language.
- Manni is seal clubbing against weaker opponents - This is an outright lie. Manni only plays in champion league and that is how battle rec accounts are setup. They are created, and their rating is set so they are in champion league. And here is another video to disprove you: . Skip ahead to 12:35 and you see that his opponents are in champion league, some of them with maxed mk2 gear. Still don't believe me? Skip ahead even further to 19:23. You see that he has jumped all the way up into LEGEND LEAGUE! You can't just say that he's fighting lower level players when he's playing at the highest level of play, even climbing to no. 5 on the legend league list
- He sucks as a player - Firstly, try to recognize the difference between sucking as a player and using fun bots that may not work so well. He may have mk2 maxed gear all around, but he rarely ever uses a full premium hangar. Newest video (exported livestream) shows the 3 hangars he set up. The thumbnail says it all . Sorry to break it to you, but the closest thing he has to a standard champion league hangar is the TDM hangar. His FFA hangar consists of 2 ravens, a pursuer, and 2 spectres. His TDM hangar has a kumiho, bulgasari, haechi, spectre, and inquisitor. Two of those builds are non-meta. Then we get to his fun hangar. You have the normal looking mender and inquisitor, then you get to the bulgasari, spectre, and weyland. I don't think those are supposed to dominate the enemy. It's for fun. I think competing with shocktrains, scourges, embers, and orkans is fine when using stuff like that, even if it is at a higher level (which it is not).
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Jul 17, 2018 17:56:03 GMT -5
People, in general, can really be the worst!
I have noopinions about the YT'rs or even peopke getting Accounts to write about stuff despite whatever they say...
But to say something about his accent is just crazy, wrong and pathetic. Thats not what any greater community should ever be about.
I have did comms withpeople from all overthe world... Im sure if I had to speak Hebrew, French or Spanish as a second language I would be dreadful to understand. The few times I watched Manni, I understood him just fine.
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Post by tekkamanblade on Jul 17, 2018 18:19:03 GMT -5
I freaking love Mannni, long before his channel was famous. Found his channel and stew's channel when I first started War Robots 1 year ago. They were making content with their heart, not because of money or fame. He said he is german and english is not his first language, hell I'm chinese and english is my 2nd language too, so what?
Whoever came late just found out Manni and start trashing him, treat his channel as a place for posting the hate of pix. Go to hell.
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Post by bravex on Jul 17, 2018 18:32:18 GMT -5
Manni not a good player?
By watching his videos I learned how to kill Spectres and Inquisitors.
Just today I killed an Inquisitor with my RDB Griff. Last week I took out a Spectre with my Punisher Leo.
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Post by moody on Jul 17, 2018 18:50:16 GMT -5
He is just so upbeat and bright!! No one can be that upbeat and bright!! It makes the rest of us look even more miserable in comparison.  |
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Post by tekkamanblade on Jul 17, 2018 18:58:21 GMT -5
Manni not a good player? By watching his videos I learned how to kill Spectres and Inquisitors. Just today I killed an Inquisitor with my RDB Griff. Last week I took out a Spectre with my Punisher Leo. Would love to invite your Leo to share his story. |
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Post by bravex on Jul 17, 2018 19:13:37 GMT -5
Manni not a good player? By watching his videos I learned how to kill Spectres and Inquisitors. Just today I killed an Inquisitor with my RDB Griff. Last week I took out a Spectre with my Punisher Leo. Would love to invite your Leo to share his story. He attacked my teammate, maybe didn't see me. I waited until his stealth ran out and then I stepped out and opened up on him. Apparently he had emptied all his Orks attacking my teammate. He tried to jump away while he was reloading but I got him. It was close. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:29:10 GMT -5
Im watching Manni since I play War Robots, learned a lot. Already said this in a few other threads: I consider him as 1 of the greatest WRplayer. The moves he showed with Raven and Spectre are dynamite.
Ive seen he has a 2nd Youtube account with other games.
When he speaks hes very clear so no probz with a few stutter here and there. For the new players out there check Manni and learn some good robo moves.
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Post by Domino on Jul 17, 2018 21:12:27 GMT -5
1) I don't have any issues with his language. Why I don't like watching him is because his deemener when losing or his teammates suck or he gets hit, he can act immature. He criticizes others when really he's average.
2) any mk2 LVL 12 hangar even in Champion league is a clubbing hangar. Take me for example, I have around 5200-5300 Champions League cups. My bots are around LVL 9, my weapons vary from 11-12. Mk2 LVL 2 has 40-50% more health, 20-30% more dmg if he had the exact same hangar as me. So even being in Champions League with a BR account means he has a advantage over 80-95% of his opponents.
3) iirc people catch him playing his BR regularly. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think it particularly fair to Reds when you are using a BR with your buddy's to kick ?bum-bum?. You didn't earn that right, Reds didn't deserve to face you.
I'm sure there's more
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Post by garunixreborn on Jul 17, 2018 21:24:12 GMT -5
1) I don't have any issues with his language. Why I don't like watching him is because his deemener when losing or his teammates suck or he gets hit, he can act immature. He criticizes others when really he's average. 2) any mk2 LVL 12 hangar even in Champion league is a clubbing hangar. Take me for example, I have around 5200-5300 Champions League cups. My bots are around LVL 9, my weapons vary from 11-12. Mk2 LVL 2 has 40-50% more health, 20-30% more dmg if he had the exact same hangar as me. So even being in Champions League with a BR account means he has a advantage over 80-95% of his opponents. 3) iirc people catch him playing his BR regularly. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think it particularly fair to Reds when you are using a BR with your buddy's to kick ?bum-bum?. You didn't earn that right, Reds didn't deserve to face you. I'm sure there's more well he does stream his BR account often and plays it to record gameplay so of course the odd person will "catch" him playing |
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Post by dobby on Jul 17, 2018 22:08:53 GMT -5
Nothing up with his accent, and I used to enjoy some of his older vids; even thought to myself he seems like a decent guy.
His newer content has too much immaturity (or maybe same amount but I get bored of it quicker?) - I understand why - to appeal to a teen / young-adult audience (of which I am no longer, so it irritates me).
Similarly too many silly video thumbnails with those stupid emote faces ? ( <— damn I hate those, they are the social version of being an incompetent try-hard), and nearly as bad (but not quite) is when he performs his own personal emotes in the thumbnail (typically a shocked or surprised look - in fact there’s one for the video you linked to OP, just look at it, lame).
Then there’s the whining; first time or two maybe it’s funny or at least okay, several times later - nails on chalkboard begins to feel preferable.
Still think he’s probably a nice guy who I’d get on with in RL (when he’s not being a social try-hard), and will occasionally watch him - just not as frequently as I used to.
As for his skill, on his own account (not that BR nonsense) he’s seems decent enough to me, clearly can play well, uses some tactics, considers team play, wouldn’t call him great though, and you have to remember he can cherrypick a lot of his stuff. His livestreams are more telling, you tend to see more mistakes and poor logic (though I usually don’t sit through more than 30min of those because of the aforementioned ‘problems’), but nonetheless he’s a decent enough player and does have some skill, credit where it’s due.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Jul 17, 2018 23:16:14 GMT -5
I used to watch only 2 youtubers of War Robots, Adriannn and Manni.
Personal comment: Adrainnn is more "educative" and Maani is more entertaining.
That said, now I dismiss ALL War Robots feeds from youtube as a part of my protest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 0:20:46 GMT -5
- Manni is seal clubbing against weaker opponents - This is an outright lie
From his most recent video. Take the time to count how many MKII weapons there are vs MKI.
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Post by garunixreborn on Jul 18, 2018 3:31:40 GMT -5
- Manni is seal clubbing against weaker opponents - This is an outright lie
From his most recent video. Take the time to count how many MKII weapons there are vs MKI.
Nope And as a matter of fact, Adrian also uses mk2 weapons (his only mk2 bots are spectres). Why doesn't anyone accuse him of seal clubbing? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 4:08:56 GMT -5
From his most recent video. Take the time to count how many MKII weapons there are vs MKI.
Nope And as a matter of fact, Adrian also uses mk2 weapons (his only mk2 bots are spectres). Why doesn't anyone accuse him of seal clubbing? Adrian is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Firstly, you go to great lengths to point out Mani is in the Legend League - yet I show you his most recent video where most people aren't using MKII (thus a very high probability that they're not Legends) So either Mani lowered his league score - to go clubbing, or the MM forced him into clubbing. If it's the former, he's clubbing on purpose, if it's the latter, it seems to happen to him an awful lot.
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Post by TheRageMonster on Jul 18, 2018 7:40:18 GMT -5
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. For me, I like Manni because he does provide useful tips in an entertaining way, and his bright demeanor is something I miss seeing in almost everyone I see these days. I understand that other people's opinion of him may be totally different, but they are as entitled to their opinion as I am to mine.
However, I would not at all call him a seal clubber; when he plays any random game most of what I see is haechis, bulgas, spectre, quiz, etc. which are the meta bots at the moment. Of course he will have a much better hangar then many (due to the fact that it's maxed), but if playing a few matches where you are better than most of your teammates and enemies qualifies you as a seal clubber, everyone here would be guilty. The quest to spot clubbers has turned into a witch hunt, and IMHO it needs to stop.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 18, 2018 9:31:47 GMT -5
-EDIT-Sorry if this is a derailment, but I tend to post off the cuff-
Funny, most folks who have complained about Manni, that I have seen, have actually brought up his content as a reason why. Even in this thread.
Well, that's great! That is the best reason to like or not like someone's channel! The ONLY reason why there was any need for Adrian's defense was because people were attacking his character for no reason.
My thoughts, for what it's worth:
Content is based on opinion. Both the provider's and the consumer's... Whether your opinion is that Manni's content is three feet away from Heaven or 1 push away from Hell, it's not wrong either way. Either people like him or they don't.
My personal opinion, if anyone cares, is that I have watched a few of his vids and learned a thing or two about new gear that I didn't have at the time, but I don't enjoy his channel and don't want to watch it very much.
Randomness:
I look at it like this: Let people watch what they want and say what they want to say (unless it is a baseless attack on character in a Forum that wants to be a part of the greater War Robots community, like ours). What do I care?
*HYPOTHETICAL* - If someone says "I hate Stew P because he did a vid with funny voices that mocked my natural accent," and didn't say a thing about the actual gameplay or knowledge that they may or may not have gleaned from watching him, then all that tells me is that they have very shallow standards and I wouldn't enjoy most of the content that they prolly enjoy, anyway. Frankly, that's for the best as I bet his comments on Stew's vids would have been toxic, FakeBook level crap.
Either way... my post in this thread is meaningless in the scheme of things, just observation and opinion... much like YouTuber content, it only holds value if you give it value.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 18, 2018 9:33:39 GMT -5
He is the worst youtuber Johnny come lately never uses his own account and whines like a 「female dog」. He is OWNED by Pix.  |
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Post by oooohmyyy on Jul 18, 2018 11:29:09 GMT -5
There was adrian hate and denfense threads no more than a week ago, now manni, why so much drama\o/ Who's next?
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Post by BB on Jul 18, 2018 11:36:13 GMT -5
Who is Manni??
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Post by Poopface on Jul 18, 2018 12:16:32 GMT -5
There was adrian hate and denfense threads no more than a week ago, now manni, why so much drama\o/ Who's next? You're right.
It's this simple. Feel what you want. Interpret what youtubers are hoping to accomplish from whatever stance you care to take. Continuing this debate is pointless, without end, and really only serves to have more negativity on the forum. We have enough of that these days (for myriad reasons). |
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