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Post by RightOn on Feb 18, 2017 10:01:58 GMT -5
I have ~4750 Au and my hangar is mostly lv10
I was looking at the times to upgrade Rog and Orkans, 25 days to lv10s, I could get a zeus while I complete the OrkRog
Twin Zeus could apply to my Thunder Carnage or Trident Raijin which currently are both sidelined.
Lancelot is a little heavy for my already heavy-sided hangar but I have a lv10 ancile for it and I could easily get another set of Tarans while lance upgrades.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 18, 2017 15:22:14 GMT -5
Sounds like your top tier. Twin Zeus' on a fast mobile platform like the Carnage is frightening. Gives you the option to ambush at medium range against the TT furies.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2017 6:52:43 GMT -5
Since the MM I'm definitely TT but I get saddled with the worst players I never knew existed. 100k'ers all day, it's awful. I don't mind carrying players, but sheesh I never sucked that much. Old MM gave me TT all day and I loved that. The only way this MM would fill out was squads.
Anyway, today is D day. Either do something or do nothing, and I want my OROG!
Convince me to not buy a Rogatka. Tell me to wait for the dash bot that may remain prototype forever.
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Post by K A Z on Feb 22, 2017 7:06:35 GMT -5
Get those Zeuses already! rrrrrr.....I hate them, hate them so freakin much...even more so, since I have none  Just please, in case you see me on the red side, don't zap yer' old Kaz...pretty pretty please  lol |
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2017 7:34:54 GMT -5
Oh man, it would be hilarious to bring out Raijin with umpteenbillion health and zap zap zap... well, until I get chased down by a Gareth XD
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Post by K A Z on Feb 22, 2017 7:53:45 GMT -5
I would say the Zeuses are real annoyance when placed on Carny. Raijins are fat and slow; I guess biggest bullet catchers in the game (even nat is harder to hit). Carnys on the other hand are smaller, reasonably fast...with rush mode on, really fast. That combined with improved ancile gives it a decent survivability, while short reload, weapon lock and 600m range allow them to stay away and quickly drain HP from almost anything. After Fury, that's the best bot/config for yama imo.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2017 8:01:00 GMT -5
Trident Carny could do 6x 6850 every 13.7s or 180k DPM
Zeus Carny could do 2x 14891 every 5 seconds or 357,384 DPM
That's straight up 100% increase
Actually that DPM is comparable to MagGepard, wild for 600M
If I had 9500Au I would just buy a Zeus Fury for kicks LOL
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Post by K A Z on Feb 22, 2017 8:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah, short after the new, the great, the blessed MM was introduced, I had a squad game where our low/mid silver hangars (5 bots,a all in Light4/9 + Med4/7 range in my case) were put on Canyon in front of 10/10...12/12 Zeus Fury (I'm not sure exactly what level that was).
It was almost funny:
...hah, here comes my gep...dodging, dodging,...zap (1)...errr...next
...ok, time for something more robust: boa...Strolling, Strolling...zap...Strolling...zap...errr neeext?!
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Feb 22, 2017 8:19:03 GMT -5
Convince you to not buy a rog huh... erm... griffin is better. There ya go  |
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Post by cypho on Feb 22, 2017 8:21:10 GMT -5
I did the same zeus/trident damage calculations a while back and the zeus looks a clear winner, but bear in mind the lock-on time before you can fire.
I keep a zeus carny and a trident fury. The Zeus carnage can be very effective...until you meet a brit bot or rhino. The Tridents may have a lower dpm but the splash damage is very helpful.
Not that any of that helps your decision making process at all!
I don't own a Rog but from experience don't find them too worrying when I encounter them - a bit squishy for top tier. I do have a lance and find it to be a slow moving rocket magnet - I shelved it a while back.
Conclusion? Go with the Zeus!
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Post by Meep on Feb 22, 2017 11:03:40 GMT -5
I loved loved loved my Rog. Lead bot for me 100% of the time. Once I updated to 3 heavies to get the MM to settle down my 50 game avg damage is too high for him to have a place in my 7/8 hanger w/o a net negative effect (generally speaking). Is a shame really
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2017 12:42:54 GMT -5
I've been playing OrkRog a lot in TS. I think I like it.
It's very fast, honestly it's the second most mobile bot in the game by a longshot (not considering bunny).
That mobility means you can get inside 300M and lay down 95k damage then get out of there quickly.
The jump is powerful enough. By the time you make landfall it's only 5 second wait.
I like the aesthetics. I'm not sure why I haven't gotten Rog...
I like my Griffin but they aren't even close. Griffin is a lot slower and jumps far less frequently, and is honestly even more fragile.
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Post by Deadalready on Feb 22, 2017 19:44:19 GMT -5
The MM is still a work in progress, it is annoying that the goalposts seem to be moving (and it's sad I'm no longer the big fish in a small pond).
I don't play as much but I'm still hopeful.
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