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Post by moody on Feb 17, 2017 23:56:41 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9.
I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9.
This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun.
2 plasmahad
ork thunder lance
plasma rhino and 2 griff
1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral.
Trident carnage
Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid).
Treb molat Nat.
Garath that steals weapons as required.
obviously I could field for example thunder carnage if I took the thunders off the Leo and Lance.
Given this range, what would you take further?
Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Feb 18, 2017 0:27:48 GMT -5
The Plasmahads get the best bang for buck to upgrade --- and the Gals get the bot HP and shield HP upgraded at the same time. The Taran on it is an easy upgrade too. Overall the Plasmahad gives the most returns on either hit or weapon upgrade.
The Lance should be targeted next. Like the Gal, the bot upgrade gives you double bonus - bot and shield all at once. I'd upgrade the Thunder first, as the Thunder gets the biggest damage increase per level of all weapons (a Thunder's clip is 8 shots in real usage --- not 5). As for the 2 Orkans - this depends on if you intend on using the Rhino to top tier. If you are using a Rhino, then the Rhino gets upgraded before the Orkans.
So the Rhino gets upgraded after the Lance's Thunder and after that the 2 Tarans it uses get upgraded. Mags are next - it's up to you how high you level the Mags, as up to level 10 they are not costly from silver or time perspective. P.S. - a Griffin could easily be the bot upgrade here - there's no mistake in choosing either.
Your 5th and 6th bots is a choice between the Gareth and the Carnage ---- as they gave completely different roles, it's up to you which one to upgrade first. Both are easy to upgrade since they are not heavy bots and they dont have 4 weapons.
The rest of your weapons and bots can be upgraded as needed.
Unless you have 500M silver on hand, upgrading more than 6 bots from where you have them now to L12 is very difficult given Pixonic's changes to reduce a Pilot's ability to accumulate silver.
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Post by moody on Feb 18, 2017 1:34:55 GMT -5
I don't have time to give this the response it deserves right now.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 18, 2017 1:38:38 GMT -5
2 plasmahad - Yes go for this.
ork thunder lance -Yes go for this.
plasma rhino and 2 griff - if you think/feel that you can pilot the rhino properly then go on. 2 Griffins YES!
1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral. - for griffins use DB or Orkan/aphids
Trident carnage. - Yes, use this as your mid-ranger
Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid). - not sure about this guy... better use the aphids for the griffins
Treb molat Nat. - NO
Garath that steals weapons as required. - not priority buy Yes it will be useful for some light bot daily task
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Post by ipwng0dz on Feb 18, 2017 3:14:34 GMT -5
2 plasmahad - Yes go for this. ork thunder lance -Yes go for this. plasma rhino and 2 griff - if you think/feel that you can pilot the rhino properly then go on. 2 Griffins YES! 1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral. - for griffins use DB or Orkan/aphids Trident carnage. - Yes, use this as your mid-ranger Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid). - not sure about this guy... better use the aphids for the griffins Treb molat Nat. - NO Garath that steals weapons as required. - not priority buy Yes it will be useful for some light bot daily task This is good advice imo |
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Post by moody on Feb 18, 2017 3:30:37 GMT -5
2 plasmahad - Yes go for this. ork thunder lance -Yes go for this. plasma rhino and 2 griff - if you think/feel that you can pilot the rhino properly then go on. 2 Griffins YES! 1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral. - for griffins use DB or Orkan/aphids Trident carnage. - Yes, use this as your mid-ranger Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid). - not sure about this guy... better use the aphids for the griffins Treb molat Nat. - NO Garath that steals weapons as required. - not priority buy Yes it will be useful for some light bot daily task Yes i feel i can pilot rhino well, but think i will still go just with griffins. |
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Post by moody on Feb 18, 2017 6:46:18 GMT -5
The Plasmahads get the best bang for buck to upgrade --- and the Gals get the bot HP and shield HP upgraded at the same time. The Taran on it is an easy upgrade too. Overall the Plasmahad gives the most returns on either hit or weapon upgrade. The Lance should be targeted next. Like the Gal, the bot upgrade gives you double bonus - bot and shield all at once. I'd upgrade the Thunder first, as the Thunder gets the biggest damage increase per level of all weapons (a Thunder's clip is 8 shots in real usage --- not 5). As for the 2 Orkans - this depends on if you intend on using the Rhino to top tier. If you are using a Rhino, then the Rhino gets upgraded before the Orkans. So the Rhino gets upgraded after the Lance's Thunder and after that the 2 Tarans it uses get upgraded. Mags are next - it's up to you how high you level the Mags, as up to level 10 they are not costly from silver or time perspective. P.S. - a Griffin could easily be the bot upgrade here - there's no mistake in choosing either. Your 5th and 6th bots is a choice between the Gareth and the Carnage ---- as they gave completely different roles, it's up to you which one to upgrade first. Both are easy to upgrade since they are not heavy bots and they dont have 4 weapons. The rest of your weapons and bots can be upgraded as needed. Unless you have 500M silver on hand, upgrading more than 6 bots from where you have them now to L12 is very difficult given Pixonic's changes to reduce a Pilot's ability to accumulate silver. Thank you for such a detailed response. There isn't much i can comment on.I'm Yea. Currently on about 70mil. I have got money stashed away to put on premium a few times as required. (I can earn about 20mil in 3 days). I am also not in rush. At this point i've decided that the garath isn't going above 9. Too fragile for top tier i think. |
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Post by Desolator on Feb 18, 2017 7:04:22 GMT -5
Was that your hanger or mine? I have the same equipments except that I prefer Griffins over Rhino. I am in the process of leveling every thing to 9/9 and was going to ask for advice after that. I got it now, thanks all.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 18, 2017 10:11:41 GMT -5
The Plasmahads get the best bang for buck to upgrade --- and the Gals get the bot HP and shield HP upgraded at the same time. The Taran on it is an easy upgrade too. Overall the Plasmahad gives the most returns on either hit or weapon upgrade. The Lance should be targeted next. Like the Gal, the bot upgrade gives you double bonus - bot and shield all at once. I'd upgrade the Thunder first, as the Thunder gets the biggest damage increase per level of all weapons (a Thunder's clip is 8 shots in real usage --- not 5). As for the 2 Orkans - this depends on if you intend on using the Rhino to top tier. If you are using a Rhino, then the Rhino gets upgraded before the Orkans. So the Rhino gets upgraded after the Lance's Thunder and after that the 2 Tarans it uses get upgraded. Mags are next - it's up to you how high you level the Mags, as up to level 10 they are not costly from silver or time perspective. P.S. - a Griffin could easily be the bot upgrade here - there's no mistake in choosing either. Your 5th and 6th bots is a choice between the Gareth and the Carnage ---- as they gave completely different roles, it's up to you which one to upgrade first. Both are easy to upgrade since they are not heavy bots and they dont have 4 weapons. The rest of your weapons and bots can be upgraded as needed. Unless you have 500M silver on hand, upgrading more than 6 bots from where you have them now to L12 is very difficult given Pixonic's changes to reduce a Pilot's ability to accumulate silver. Thank you for such a detailed response. There isn't much i can comment on.I'm Yea. Currently on about 70mil. I have got money stashed away to put on premium a few times as required. (I can earn about 20mil in 3 days). I am also not in rush. At this point i've decided that the garath isn't going above 9. Too fragile for top tier i think. Running Gareth does require a heavy hangar, but it's far more effective than a Stalker because it can dish some D |
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Post by moody on Feb 18, 2017 23:56:26 GMT -5
Was that your hanger or mine? I have the same equipments except that I prefer Griffins over Rhino. I am in the process of leveling every thing to 9/9 and was going to ask for advice after that. I got it now, thanks all. I also prefer griffins to rhino except as a plasma boat. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 19, 2017 8:20:15 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9. I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9. This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun. Given this range, what would you take further? Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons. moody!!! We are still running very similar hangers!! @ similar levels!! My Hangar : Galahad @ 9 Lancelot @ 9 2x Griffins - 1 Aphid/Ork (@ 9) & other is pdb / rdb (leveling to 9) Then it gets fuzzy. Not sure what to do - Weapons are at 9 as well for all. Not sure what other bot will be in main hanger?  I also have a Gareth lvl 7, not going to move up anytime soon. Not realistic in TT for me. My Rhino is 8th and Carnage is 7th, probably level Carnage to 8th for more time. Just not sure what bot is best for 5th slot. Right now kickin Azz with Leo at level 7!! When I run Rhino or Carnage - both are high risk, just not sure. |
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Post by moody on Feb 19, 2017 14:39:03 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9. I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9. This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun. Given this range, what would you take further? Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons. moody!!! We are still running very similar hangers!! @ similar levels!! My Hangar : Galahad @ 9 Lancelot @ 9 2x Griffins - 1 Aphid/Ork (@ 9) & other is pdb / rdb (leveling to 9) Then it gets fuzzy. Not sure what to do - Weapons are at 9 as well for all. Not sure what other bot will be in main hanger? I also have a Gareth lvl 7, not going to move up anytime soon. Not realistic in TT for me. My Rhino is 8th and Carnage is 7th, probably level Carnage to 8th for more time. Just not sure what bot is best for 5th slot. Right now kickin Azz with Leo at level 7!! When I run Rhino or Carnage - both are high risk, just not sure. My opinion carnage. Tridents. I am trying rhino again but it isn't doing that well. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 19, 2017 18:55:10 GMT -5
I wanted to share my current play strategy is skewed with the new MM. Before I was really trying to develop my mid-range support play. I was swapping my Tulu/Pin Griffin and my Tri/Carny to improve with both. After the new MM with the constant mix of TT hangers I made 2 major strategic changes: * took out mid-range play - sub in my leo (was already at lvl 7) with buff it tanks well - also sub in Rhino & Carnage - most consistent with the Leo . * Stopped playing Canyon (like map but Furies make it to frustrating) * occasionally play SF These 2 changes have moved me back 52-60% War Robots & 450-470k Dam. The play has become much more enjoyable and I am able to play with and against the TT much better. Might be useful for someone if they are struggling with the MM. I know when I went down to 28% War Robots my Frustration was so encompassing it was effecting my ability to play. |
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Post by moody on Feb 19, 2017 19:46:49 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9. I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9. This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun. Given this range, what would you take further? Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons. moody!!! We are still running very similar hangers!! @ similar levels!! In addition. I just realised that you won your Garath too! I have also been playing with either having two or having no midrange. Also between having almost all to almost no splash. I am really enjoying the Gary, but I've just taken it out as it keeps getting one shotted by anything that hits it. For some reason in the last 3 or 4 days I've climbed back up to a 70% win rate. I'm awaiting the fall. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 19, 2017 20:07:49 GMT -5
moody!!! We are still running very similar hangers!! @ similar levels!! In addition. I just realised that you won your Garath too! I have also been playing with either having two or having no midrange. Also between having almost all to almost no splash. I am really enjoying the Gary, but I've just taken it out as it keeps getting one shotted by anything that hits it. For some reason in the last 3 or 4 days I've climbed back up to a 70% win rate. I'm awaiting the fall. The end of last week & this weekend have been really busy, just trying to finish tasks - hoping to keep improving, but expecting as you put it, 'the fall'. My Gareth! The only treasure I have won in any of the events, and 1 Taran in last event. It is a prize I really like, and dont think I would ever spend the Au on myself! The usefulness unfortunately is gone, at least for now. moody, your hanger strategy has similarities too! Are you playing all the maps? I really like Canyon, just tired of herds of Furies on the maps. Last time I played I think I had a screenshot of the reds - 4 Furies and 1 Tri/Carny. Was enough to continue my absence on that map. |
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Post by thundergrunt72 on Feb 20, 2017 13:27:26 GMT -5
this was a really helpful post for me as well. I have many weapons and bots in common to OP in level and type.
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Post by miatahead on Feb 20, 2017 14:10:48 GMT -5
With your hanger as it is and the current meta, I'd plan on a final hanger of 2 galahad, 2 lance and a trident fury. If you can't make the gold for the second lance or fury, build the poor man's versions (carnage, leo, Natasha). Stuff is pretty cheap to level 9, but 10- 12 is where it gets real expensive and time consuming, so that is where you want to stay focused. Catch is that the meta will change again once you get closer to max...
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Post by Dejnov on Feb 20, 2017 14:47:42 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9. I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9. This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun. 2 plasmahad ork thunder lance plasma rhino and 2 griff 1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral. Trident carnage Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid). Treb molat Nat. Garath that steals weapons as required. obviously I could field for example thunder carnage if I took the thunders off the Leo and Lance. Given this range, what would you take further? Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons. I responded in thundergrunts post on the same thing. I'll just do the tl;dr version here. 1) Maximize hangar viability at all times to maintain Ag input. 2) Ag is the most important thing. See rule #1. Don't mess up your working hangar and always work to earning Ag. Stop/minimize earning WSPs as they take away from Ag. 3) Prioritize upgrades past 9. No upgrade past 9 (even in main hangar) unless it's TT potential and has high utilization (i.e. always) An example is Orkans. You should always take your first 2 Orkans to 12. You will always use them. 4) Upgrades to 9 are basically free. (The time spent on the upgrade with a decent number of games will probably put you net/net positive on Ag or near no loss.) Anything you want to rotate can go up to at least 7 and possibly 9. When it gets to 9 you stop. Period. No upgrade, other than the TT hangar pieces, past 9. No exceptions. Till 9, knock yourself out... it's free. 5) Once you have 2 or 3 bots at top tier figure out what you're going to use and try and bring one bot/weapon to top tier at a time. Leave the other slots for rotators. P.S. My current hangar needs 748M to get from all 9/9s to all 12/12s in bots/weapons... I believe this is true for you also (within 10%). To get to 9 in bot/weapons is usually around 10M-20M. As an example I still need about 113.3M to get all of my current hangar to 9/9s. I have 90M in the bank and it should be straightforward to get them all to 9/9s within a month. (Note: To move the 4 Thunders/Tridents to 9 from all 7s takes 52M alone. All of the rest of the upgrades can be done prior to the Thunder/Tridents for just ~60M.) It is only about 15% of the long term need and can be spent (and earned) quite easily. The only thing stopping me from running a 9/9 hangar today is time. After 9/9 it will be Ag. At 9/9 your thinking has to change. Dejnov. |
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Post by moody on Feb 20, 2017 15:36:00 GMT -5
I have a range of bots and weapons that I plan to bring to 9/9. Most bots are 8 and a fair number of weapons are 9. I can currently field a full hanger of 8/9. This is so that I have plenty of options to play. This is a game and should be fun. 2 plasmahad ork thunder lance plasma rhino and 2 griff 1 each set of PDB, DB, RDB or hydra/spiral. Trident carnage Aphid Thunder Leo (do plan 4th aphid). Treb molat Nat. Garath that steals weapons as required. obviously I could field for example thunder carnage if I took the thunders off the Leo and Lance. Given this range, what would you take further? Don't limit yourself to just 5 bots, but I am not going to equally level 10 bots to 12/12. So say 6 bots, maybe with a couple of alternate weapons. I responded in thundergrunts post on the same thing. I'll just do the tl;dr version here. 1) Maximize hangar viability at all times to maintain Ag input. 2) Ag is the most important thing. See rule #1. Don't mess up your working hangar and always work to earning Ag. Stop/minimize earning WSPs as they take away from Ag. 3) Prioritize upgrades past 9. No upgrade past 9 (even in main hangar) unless it's TT potential and has high utilization (i.e. always) An example is Orkans. You should always take your first 2 Orkans to 12. You will always use them. 4) Upgrades to 9 are basically free. (The time spent on the upgrade with a decent number of games will probably put you net/net positive on Ag or near no loss.) Anything you want to rotate can go up to at least 7 and possibly 9. When it gets to 9 you stop. Period. No upgrade, other than the TT hangar pieces, past 9. No exceptions. Till 9, knock yourself out... it's free. 5) Once you have 2 or 3 bots at top tier figure out what you're going to use and try and bring one bot/weapon to top tier at a time. Leave the other slots for rotators. P.S. My current hangar needs 748M to get from all 9/9s to all 12/12s in bots/weapons... I believe this is true for you also (within 10%). To get to 9 in bot/weapons is usually around 10M-20M. As an example I still need about 113.3M to get all of my current hangar to 9/9s. I have 90M in the bank and it should be straightforward to get them all to 9/9s within a month. (Note: To move the 4 Thunders/Tridents to 9 from all 7s takes 52M alone. All of the rest of the upgrades can be done prior to the Thunder/Tridents for just ~60M.) It is only about 15% of the long term need and can be spent (and earned) quite easily. The only thing stopping me from running a 9/9 hangar today is time. After 9/9 it will be Ag. At 9/9 your thinking has to change. Dejnov. I agree with this in theory. Like you I realised that 9 is a limit in affordability - anything up to 9 while not being free is comparatively cheap in time and silver. I currently have more than a full hanger of lev 9 weapons. (6 magnums and 4 tarans for example, not all of which I will be taking further). I have 5 robots currently at 8. I am working on getting a number of additional weapons up to 9 (2 aphids currently 8, 1 orkan upgrading now currently 8, 1 RDB set currently 8) and then will work on getting the remaining bots to 9. I would still be tempted to take a little more than just the ultimate hanger to 12. E.g. if I have an RDB set that can be substituted onto a griffin if I needed more midrange in a squad battle. |
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Post by Dejnov on Feb 20, 2017 15:54:01 GMT -5
I agree with this in theory. Like you I realised that 9 is a limit in affordability - anything up to 9 while not being free is comparatively cheap in time and silver. I currently have more than a full hanger of lev 9 weapons. (6 magnums and 4 tarans for example, not all of which I will be taking further). I have 5 robots currently at 8. I am working on getting a number of additional weapons up to 9 (2 aphids currently 8, 1 orkan upgrading now currently 8, 1 RDB set currently 8) and then will work on getting the remaining bots to 9. I would still be tempted to take a little more than just the ultimate hanger to 12. E.g. if I have an RDB set that can be substituted onto a griffin if I needed more midrange in a squad battle. After 9 in a bot/weapon you're going to have to prioritize and utilize what you have effectively. To go from 9 to 12 in a bot/weapon loadout is ~150M Ag. At 100k Ag a game that is 1500 games. At 10 games a day that is 150 days ~ 5 months to get that bot to 12/12. Unless you're spending for premium (at which case it's 2 months), you're never gonna get bots in a hangar to 12/12 unless you prioritize. That is how Pixonic has currently structured the math... If you really want lots of hangar variability, bring those up to 9 while working on at least 1-3 bots (hangar mainstays) to 12/12. Then rotate in as needed for fun and variability. You do want to stop and call a bot done at some point though; if you don't, you'll lose focus and you'll never get a hangar to 12/12. Instead you'll end up with a hangar that has half a dozen or a full dozen 10/10s but no real 12/12 bots. It's the same mindset you had to have to grind that fifth slot. The slots before bots is a rule for a reason, it maximizes your hangar. The same can be said for the last 3 levels. Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize. Get your mainstays into the 10-12 range and then work around those for the long grind ahead. Change/switch out to keep it fresh, but have clear rules about what does and doesn't get upgraded. Dejnov. |
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Post by moody on Feb 20, 2017 15:56:02 GMT -5
With your hanger as it is and the current meta, I'd plan on a final hanger of 2 galahad, 2 lance and a trident fury. If you can't make the gold for the second lance or fury, build the poor man's versions (carnage, leo, Natasha). Stuff is pretty cheap to level 9, but 10- 12 is where it gets real expensive and time consuming, so that is where you want to stay focused. Catch is that the meta will change again once you get closer to max... I am getting more and more of the opinion that I would like a second lance - and that I would like a fury. Weapon wise that is very close to the current lineup that I have - just missing 10000au worth of bots. Lance seems able to take out two or three opposition with every outing. For the moment I am going to upgrade and keep appropriate weapons for that lineup upgrading. Substituting a griffin for the second lance and a carnage for the trident. I will leave the third trident until closer to time (already have it). |
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Post by moody on Feb 20, 2017 16:03:19 GMT -5
I agree with this in theory. Like you I realised that 9 is a limit in affordability - anything up to 9 while not being free is comparatively cheap in time and silver. I currently have more than a full hanger of lev 9 weapons. (6 magnums and 4 tarans for example, not all of which I will be taking further). I have 5 robots currently at 8. I am working on getting a number of additional weapons up to 9 (2 aphids currently 8, 1 orkan upgrading now currently 8, 1 RDB set currently 8) and then will work on getting the remaining bots to 9. I would still be tempted to take a little more than just the ultimate hanger to 12. E.g. if I have an RDB set that can be substituted onto a griffin if I needed more midrange in a squad battle. After 9 in a bot/weapon you're going to have to prioritize and utilize what you have effectively. To go from 9 to 12 in a bot/weapon loadout is ~150M Ag. At 100k Ag a game that is 1500 games. At 10 games a day that is 150 days ~ 5 months to get that bot to 12/12. Unless you're spending for premium (at which case it's 2 months), you're never gonna get bots in a hangar to 12/12 unless you prioritize. That is how Pixonic has currently structured the math... If you really want lots of hangar variability, bring those up to 9 while working on at least 1-3 bots (hangar mainstays) to 12/12. Then rotate in as needed for fun and variability. You do want to stop and call a bot done at some point though; if you don't, you'll lose focus and you'll never get a hangar to 12/12. Instead you'll end up with a hangar that has half a dozen or a full dozen 10/10s but no real 12/12 bots. It's the same mindset you had to have to grind that fifth slot. The slots before bots is a rule for a reason, it maximizes your hangar. The same can be said for the last 3 levels. Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize. Get your mainstays into the 10-12 range and then work around those for the long grind ahead. Change/switch out to keep it fresh, but have clear rules about what does and doesn't get upgraded. Dejnov. Dejnov. The one weird thing with this is that, for example, If I am subbing a DB griffin until such time as I can afford a second lance. Bot to 9 only, same with pinatas. Going to town on the orkans. Of course, I will be concentrating on the three bots I have ready to go first, but it feels like a long time with the present MM before I get 10000 au. |
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Post by miatahead on Feb 20, 2017 19:30:52 GMT -5
With your hanger as it is and the current meta, I'd plan on a final hanger of 2 galahad, 2 lance and a trident fury. If you can't make the gold for the second lance or fury, build the poor man's versions (carnage, leo, Natasha). Stuff is pretty cheap to level 9, but 10- 12 is where it gets real expensive and time consuming, so that is where you want to stay focused. Catch is that the meta will change again once you get closer to max... I am getting more and more of the opinion that I would like a second lance - and that I would like a fury. Weapon wise that is very close to the current lineup that I have - just missing 10000au worth of bots. Lance seems able to take out two or three opposition with every outing. For the moment I am going to upgrade and keep appropriate weapons for that lineup upgrading. Substituting a griffin for the second lance and a carnage for the trident. I will leave the third trident until closer to time (already have it). Exactly what I would do in meantime. I was gonna suggest that, but decided not to since I didn't know your play style.
I recently got a second lance and at first, I couldn't stand having 2 slow a** bots. But I'm getting into it now and like it. Doubt I get a third, but I'm halfway there in goldwise, lol....
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Post by moody on Feb 20, 2017 20:41:32 GMT -5
Worked out, assuming those 5 bots and weapons from where they are now. Nothing else.
12/12
215 days
933.4mil silver
10000 gold
I am going to run out of silver before I run out of days.
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Post by moody on Feb 20, 2017 20:42:53 GMT -5
without premium at my present rate that's more than 4000 games.
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Post by Dejnov on Feb 20, 2017 21:21:39 GMT -5
Worked out, assuming those 5 bots and weapons from where they are now. Nothing else. 12/12 215 days 933.4mil silver 10000 gold I am going to run out of silver before I run out of days. EXACTLY!!! That is why the meta in resources kind of changes at 9 (up to 7 is basically free). I looked at switching my hangar around, from the current 7.5 bot/weapon average, to level to 9. I switched out the Leo for a Carnage and 2 level 8 Aphids for two level 1 Magnums and added a brand new Taran for the Plasma Griffin. What do you think the new Hangar cost 'all in' to get all my mechs to 9 (it was 113M with the current 7.5 bot/weapon hangar)? It is now only 120M. A 7M Ag difference for three new weapons and a whole new bot going from level 1 to 9 instead of what I already had at level 7.5 going to level 9. Getting to 7 was time intensive. Getting to 9 you have to pick a hangar that is realistic for top tier. My Ag hasn't really moved from low to high 90s (in M) since I started trying to upgrade things to 9. I guarantee after 9, it'll drop faster than you can earn in and then you'll be sitting around waiting for Ag to actually upgrade anything. Getting to level 12 is all about the Ags... they are the new Benjamins. Also note... it's a lot of games. As you get up in weapon and bot values the Ag cost to repair goes up. You'll find your 'winnings' from playing games stabilizes around 100k Ag. With a ton of expensive/gold bots and weapons the repair cost goes up (at least it goes up with hitpoints, which is one of the reasons I finally junked the Leo). With premium the game it's 2 to 2.5 times faster, but it will take a long time. Focus on a few bots/weapons that you WILL have at top tier regardless of meta changes. For me a set of Tarans, Magnums, and Orkans are always in the meta. Pick a bot you feel comfortable with. My Griffin (at least 1) and my Galahad are always in the meta and can go to 12. While you're spending the better part of a year (with or without premium), the Au for premium bots will come in as you're upgrading and changing out a bot is quick to level 7, and reasonable to 9. After that think very very carefully. Dejnov. |
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 20, 2017 21:31:50 GMT -5
Thanks dejnov and moody - these are exactly the things I've been wondering as I get very close to having a largish selection of level 8 bots and weapons (because even at level 8 some of the prices are starting to get intimidating, but level 9 prices scream "long term commitment" to me).
I like the idea that I can take everything to level 9 without falling behind in Ag accumulation... that gives me a little more time to decide on my core 3 or so bots that will definitely go to 12/12. Hopefully I earn at a comparable rate as you guys or else I'm in trouble though!
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 21, 2017 20:49:10 GMT -5
With your hanger as it is and the current meta, I'd plan on a final hanger of 2 galahad, 2 lance and a trident fury. If you can't make the gold for the second lance or fury, build the poor man's versions (carnage, leo, Natasha). Stuff is pretty cheap to level 9, but 10- 12 is where it gets real expensive and time consuming, so that is where you want to stay focused. Catch is that the meta will change again once you get closer to max... I am getting more and more of the opinion that I would like a second lance - and that I would like a fury. Weapon wise that is very close to the current lineup that I have - just missing 10000au worth of bots. Lance seems able to take out two or three opposition with every outing. For the moment I am going to upgrade and keep appropriate weapons for that lineup upgrading. Substituting a griffin for the second lance and a carnage for the trident. I will leave the third trident until closer to time (already have it). I'll just say it, Holy Sh it moody, damn if we do not think a like. The more I play with the Lancelot, the more I am thinking of a 2nd? LoL I did start my Carnage going to level 8. Have less than 20 hours left. Did you get seeded in the new league. I ended up in tier Gold I. With the 540 Au bonus, really has my scratch'n my head?!? |
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Post by moody on Feb 21, 2017 21:19:42 GMT -5
I am getting more and more of the opinion that I would like a second lance - and that I would like a fury. Weapon wise that is very close to the current lineup that I have - just missing 10000au worth of bots. Lance seems able to take out two or three opposition with every outing. For the moment I am going to upgrade and keep appropriate weapons for that lineup upgrading. Substituting a griffin for the second lance and a carnage for the trident. I will leave the third trident until closer to time (already have it). I'll just say it, Holy Sh it moody, damn if we do not think a like. The more I play with the Lancelot, the more I am thinking of a 2nd? LoL I did start my Carnage going to level 8. Have less than 20 hours left. Did you get seeded in the new league. I ended up in tier Gold I. With the 540 Au bonus, really has my scratch'n my head?!? I had connection problems during the whole league seeding process. (It took me two hours to download the update, I really should have just left it for the night). Had various bots destroyed while I could do nothing about it. Silver 1. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 21, 2017 22:10:00 GMT -5
I'll just say it, Holy Sh it moody, damn if we do not think a like. The more I play with the Lancelot, the more I am thinking of a 2nd? LoL I did start my Carnage going to level 8. Have less than 20 hours left. Did you get seeded in the new league. I ended up in tier Gold I. With the 540 Au bonus, really has my scratch'n my head?!? I had connection problems during the whole league seeding process. (It took me two hours to download the update, I really should have just left it for the night). Had various bots destroyed while I could do nothing about it. Silver 1. Damn! That suks! I had one pause on 1st battle and that was it. Looking forward to some battles! From what I read you can level up during league period. Also read that will reset at end of month, basically in a week! So this should be very short window before we reset our tiers. I also put up an upgrade thread, please give me any thoughts you have. |
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