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Played a KOTH match today, about 3 minutes left with 5 blue and 3 reds, reds had the advantage, I noticed a red kumiho get to our side beacon and turn it while I was heading to their ramp beacon to contest it, no problem as 2 blues got to him fast and changed it but the problem was the kumiho drained the beacon by about 3/4 in under 10 seconds.
There is no way a single player can drain the beacon that fast. They had 1 red left with the blues quickly turning beacons and under control until I noticed our ramp beacon is white and has been for a while, 2 blues standing on it trying to change the damn thing with zero results.
I took the screen shot about 20 seconds after watching them, if this isn't match rigging then what is.

Hi OP

I see you are on the Amazon server. Yes this is typical on Amazon since there is not enough player base to support matching 6 vs 6 all the same league. It is typical that I, in Champs, will be match with one champ and a mish mosh of other league players. I have never seen anyone tank on Amazon. It is just the way the MM works there. You could be just starting and facing ST, Scourge, Dashes within your fist 30 matches.

On my way up especially in masters and early champs, I had a win rate of about 20% to 40%... it was lower tier most of the time. I still grinded though, since I was usually the tops on the loosing side and having fun. I know it is frustrating at times to not win, but just conserve your gold the best you can. And TooSchool is right. Pixo makes it harder to complete stuff during the event. I started during the xmas one, and it was very hard to compete with what I was facing.
But I grinded anyway, and was still able to be F2P (almost... like 40 bucks, but it didn't amount to anything) and get a lot of meta stuff within 7 months. (3) Kumhi, (2) Quiz one w/ Ember, bulga, Hieachi w/ scourge, Spectre, Hover, and a Purser. Close to a ST too, but not concerned.
Not sure if you grind on IOS or Android you could have gotten that without paying RM for them.
I know it sounds like I am bragging a bit, but just wanted to let you know that on Amazon, there is always a lull of wins for a few months when you first start out. I want to tell you it will get better, and you too can get decent hangar, but Pix has changed the game so much in this 7 months, I am not sure what to tell you, or how to advise you. Heck, all the stuff I grinded for may be obsolete by next update.


Good Hunting

Its your turn to lose. I have done this hundreds upon hundreds of times as soon as I reach around 70% wins matchmaker starts forced losing with only a couple of wins until I am beatdown into the 30% win range.

i feel you went 1 win, 12 losses tonite, but because i was always in top 3 lost no league points. i really don't give a damn about league points seeing that i usally get matched with Masters an Champs.

just wanted that Orkan prize only have 1 win on that Task from lastnite. the one win tonite i was 4th. only upside to playing tonight was the 9million AG.

smooth! 

guess i'll FFA right after this.

You are correct. Do not spend unless its pure blowing money Bro. Good luck!

I feel you. I played two games last night and turned on the TV. I ended up watching Animal House for the 10,000th time instead.

Well I grinded through the 「dookie」 times and it's true you do start winning again and then, would you believe it you lose every game..lol. I've learned to just play for fun and not worry. And I've just gained my first component bot. A strider which is quite a fun dash bot.

It’s just normal. If you are getting points you will face harder opponents. Thus reinforcing the losing cycle.

Also the match maker always seems to prefer stacking hit squads for whatever reason

When did EA buy Pixonic? I must have missed that news...

such an approach to matchmaking entirely contradicts the concept of league point based matchmaking and also would mean tanking would not work either. So either there is a secret matchmaking score unrelated to league points and also somehow allowing tanking, or.... there is no “forced” 50% win rate.....

“Actually it does by design”

why does it seem likely? Same reason it seemed likely that the earth was flat and the sun rotated around the earth? Many people in history have noted those same observations. Does not mean they are correct.

Common misconception is not the same as common knowledge.

Silver III players in that same match as gold/diamond is easy to explain - match maker works poorly and there are not enough players concurrently online to have a narrow band of league scores.

What is not easy to explain is how it would be possible to benefit from tanking at all in the world where win ratio is “forced”.

I am rather certain zero jee is correct and War Robots has such a MMer. 

Go go back to the 8-12 loosing and win strings after the intro of the new MMer. The forums were awash with complaints and description of the process. Advancement was next to impossible. People were stuck in their leagues. 

Tanking is actually the proof that it exists. A tanker with a high win % will loose practically every game while tanking. He would hit lows in the region of high 10s and low 20s after some time. Then the magic happens. His win % starts climbing and he will settle in for the long term at a 38-42% win while tanking. Yep, tanking and his team winning 4 out of 10. Like clock work and predictable. 

During events of old many tankers knew this and turned it to their benefit. They played on the kill and beacon tasks and tanked the wins. Yep, everyone thinks tankers were smashing their opponents for that “win 30 games” task when the exact opposite was happening. Keeping the prcantage low was the key. Turn over 10 quick games in under 10 mins and then walk away with 4 wins while tanking. Pix woke up and introduced the task with the top 3 finish. That put an end to tanking the wins.

Makes one wonder how much skill is involved when you can win 4 out of 10 games without even playing.

edit: Russia got lucky. Let’s see how the penalties go

Easy. When a player has overwhelming advantage as a result of equipment / knowledge strength (tankers, blue whales or players in very low leagues with skills and knowledge) than the MM cannot determine the outcomes. A clubber in bronze will swing 95%  of the fights because even if the bronze is matched against low diamonds the clubber can control the game.
You keep going and I bet any money your win % will trend towards 50%

Not sure why you cannot accept that this sort of set up of the MM cannot exist in War Robots especially when this is an industry norm like loot boxes. The quoted article is not the only one around. There were several articles referenced during the era of the MMer beat downs. 

 By the way. A gust stalker is OP in silver like a maxed pursuer  is in diamond/expert.

I can of course accept that such an approach is used by some gaming companies in some games, but not a single piece of evidence has been presented by anyone here other than feeling that it “definitely happens” that this is part of the War Robots matchmaking approach. Pixonic creates frustration through wide matchmaker window, massive gear disparity, exhorbitant pricing and constant meta swings and mechanics changing - the matchmaking system is just not very good and is easy for them to manipulate without even needing to resort to the described methods like EOMM - all they need is to keep the bands wide and the random higher / lower level players on blue red team automatically create the unpredictability and inability of an individual player to materially influence own win rates.

But if it makes you all happy to believe in the forced 50% then be my guest.

Interesting though If one entirely free and easy to obtain gust stalker is OP enough to manage to get me around the forced 50% system all the way up to gold II (although now I am mainly using DB griff as the stalker is ineffective in gold II already), then how come so many apparently experienced and knowledgeable players, (who seemingly understand exactly how matchmaking works) keep falling victim to this forced 50% rule. I am struck by the apparent contradict in your narrative that this mechanic is at the same time both extremely powerful and pervasive yet easily avoidable just with a simple F2P bot selection.

For the bet I will accept cash, cheque or bitcoin - with that account I have carried 70-80% win rate to gold II and on main account with over 5000 wins maintain consistent win rate of 60-70%.