Revamp to Bot Hp

ty for giving the Cossack a shout-out. I'd definitely like to see higher HP to all bots across the board to make mech-outs take longer. I tend to mech out from kamikaze attacks way too often, and I'm still awfully rusty with Carnages. I really only have a Carnage because of the new MM... I want my Cossacks and Gepard back.

I personally think there should be a higher speed difference rather than a health difference. No matter what, the lights will have too little firepower to be useful. But, if you look at games like Hawken for example, lights manage to stay in the meta because they are extremely difficult to hit.

I don't know.

There are some guys in iOS running 12/12 Stalkers and I have lately seen a guy with Gareth and Stalkers maxed. Seen some higher lvl on Android also, all light bots. I know one guy through time on here and past clan member many moons ago with the 12/12 Stalker lineup and asked him why. It's fun, disrupting, annoying the heavies and capping beacons. You could always count on him to help if you where in a jam and he could get there.

If you were trying to compare stats to a hangar of medium and heavies, there is a drop off in stats. If that is what you care about, which isn't a bad thing at all.

It seems if they weren't happy with it they would change out, but I haven't seen any changes in their hangar. They appear to like this style of play for themselves.

I do believe I just talked myself into saying, no to any adjustment of HP for the 3 levels of bots. Especially remembering a recent incident with a Stalker dancing around my Lancelot having the time of his life until he got the kill.

As far as the Cossack, Destrier and Schutze, that they are learning bots, your building blocks for the game, Look how they are equipped when you get them and their cost. Same when you move up to the Patton, Golem, Vityaz, Boa. All viable bots in learning about the game and starting to help develop your style of play. Between those bots you can have a myriad of weapons loaded on hard points.

Nobody says you can't run any of these bots in TT. And players do. I played a lvl 12, Vityaz, Golem, l11 Patton and l11 Boa when I first arrived there it was tough, but it helped me learn new strategies that I still employ today at times. I still will play them occasionally. They still kill and they still create damage and still get beacons.

Maybe just leave it as it is.

I think that's the way to go - heavy bots should be much slower. Lights could go more than 60km/h, Meds up to 45km/h, Heavies up to 32km/h. I think that Galahad is a bit to fast (he has his Shield).

The turning speed could be even lower for heavy bots.

That's pretty much spot on for my suggestion. As it stands lights (and mediums) have lower health and armament and compensates only in higher speed.

My suggestion aims at keeping one attribute static (health), and making speed vs DPS the trade off.

In this way players CAN run any bot they want. The player now only has to decide between:

High speed OR max DPS?

and not

High speed OR max DPS AND survivability

Meant something more along the lines of:
Buff light speed up to 70s
Keep medium speeds at current levels, maybe decrease the speed of carnage, galahad, and fujin a bit.
Nerf heavy speeds back to pre speed buff or at least close.

Maybe put in an hp buff for all heavies if they become too underpowered.
If need be, put in a heal ray on light slots and medium slots. This would add in a support role if some bots need extra use.
Maybe tridents need a small range nerf? Trebs and other long range weaps should be fine as is as light bots would need a clear counter.

This may turn War Robots into too much of a MOBA though. However, I think more clearly defined roles instead of do-everything bots would make a lot more bots useful and maybe add more strategy to the game.

make medium bots faster.
gl patton is too slow compared to other meds

My theory is this: The new matchmaking penalizes damage, so short term you would be better off with another heavy robot or a Galahad or something, but long term you're better off if you start with a light robot and keep your damage rate down.

Sorry the point of a light not is that they are fast and agile the way you make them that way is strip off weapons and armor. If you want weapons and armor buy a heavy but it will be slow. I'm already pissed that if you take Gary's shield into account he has mor HP than a Griffin.

The problem with the current heavies is that they're essentially MBTs in ww2 tank warfare. They don't have any trade offs at all, they're Mary Sue do-everything bots.

Different bot classes have to have different roles if we want them all to be viable. Right now, heavy bots are about as fast as old medium bots. And the speed nerf doesn't have to be big, just enough so that they can only be used for beacon capping situationally.

Slow down the beacon bars more so that control has to be held longer. This will give static bots some usability.
Maybe lights would need an hp nerf to make them more susceptible to long range. This would also give long range more effectiveness on the strategic side of things.

Lights are beacon cappers, supporters, and assassins.
Role: Fragile Speedster

Mediums are all rounders for solo players, they aren't quite as fast as lights or as effective in a fire fight as heavies, but they're supposed to be flexible bots used by solo players and unskilled players.
Role: Jack of all stats, Skillgate Characters

Heavies are for winning firefights and breaking through enemy lines, but not beacon capping.
Role: Mighty Glacier

The trade-off between speed/firepower/durability is fundamental to war machine design. Artificially eliminating part of that trade-off would would be a mistake. The way to make lights relevant is to have objectives that play to their strengths. My experience with light mech survivability is that they are far too susceptible to long ranged sniping. That vulnerability is what needs to be addressed. To that end, seeking weapons should have a harder time landing full salvoes on small, fast-moving targets - not aphid-level difficulty, but full salvo hit ought not be guaranteed. Targeting beyond 600m should be less certain.
You could approximate this with an hp buff, but you'd lose some of the different feel of both mediums and lights in the process.