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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Feb 17, 2017 18:35:20 GMT -5
Kind of like running a restaurant by donation. Eventually the clientele would become people who pay very little and nothing at all. I wonder how many guys running 12/12 hangers clubbed it all the way up no money down. Pix has a list like Santa, they know who is naughty and nice..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 21:41:27 GMT -5
It was to deal with Farming...And knock those very same people out of the tree. You know, the people who want stay freemium foe ever...You would do the same if you ran the numbers. Yup, thats it. Thats why PIX encourage and promoted it for so long. Seriously, what do you call special offers for Geps to lower players?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 21:43:39 GMT -5
Kind of like running a restaurant by donation. Eventually the clientele would become people who pay very little and nothing at all. I wonder how many guys running 12/12 hangers clubbed it all the way up no money down. Pix has a list like Santa, they know who is naughty and nice.. How do some of you manage to turn it into an ethics issue? The whole thing is setup to make PIX money. They sell bots, they sell weapons, they sell gold, they sell silver. There is no naughty or nice, theres just how you got to the top. Somehow, I think they prefer the paying customer.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Feb 17, 2017 21:59:55 GMT -5
It was to deal with Farming...And knock those very same people out of the tree. You know, the people who want stay freemium foe ever...You would do the same if you ran the numbers. Yup, thats it. Thats why PIX encourage and promoted it for so long. Seriously, what do you call special offers for Geps to lower players? What do I call that: Appeasing the little monsters for starters...Who are now trying to literally jackknife the entire game by tantrum quitting and chasing away any new player by jumping them like fresh meat in the prison shower. I don't give a rats behind about Pix's decisions...I like the game , I enjoy playing it, and the MM is just fine for me...I just wish some you jaded chronic complainers would do a real gut check, man up and simply leave. The day I started sounding like you would be my last here. I wouldn't be lingering on this forum ho humming for a pity party to back me up. And I sure as hell would not be trying to vindictively ruin the game for others... You are right the game needs a major player base turnover. Some people who actually are little more mature. All the best to you and the others, you're not happy here, lots a games out there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 0:47:39 GMT -5
Really, that's all you got?
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Post by SGT D00M! on Feb 18, 2017 0:51:23 GMT -5
Knock it off, both of you. Finger pointing is lame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 0:55:02 GMT -5
Knock it off, both of you. Finger pointing is lame. He started it lol. Okay, no more playground.
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Post by ANARCHY on Feb 19, 2017 0:30:44 GMT -5
They lost a game that was fun. They are losing players, and will lose more. Their revenue will be decreasing. I only play to do my dailies at this point. Have anyone look at the TOP GROSSING iOS apps for action games?? War Robot had dropped from level 6 highest to currently rapidly declining to level 41 within few weeks time. Greed will be the down fall of this company Let's see how low their rank will drop in the next one week. Most players have cut their play time to minimum just to do daily quests.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 0:53:03 GMT -5
They lost a game that was fun. They are losing players, and will lose more. Their revenue will be decreasing. I only play to do my dailies at this point. Have anyone look at the TOP GROSSING iOS apps for action games?? War Robot had dropped from level 6 highest to currently rapidly declining to level 41 within few weeks time. Greed will be the down fall of this company Let's see how low their rank will drop in the next one week. Most players have cut their play time to minimum just to do daily quests. I noticed an increase in pretty negative reviews on googleplay. Not sure where they are in ranking.
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Post by kingzam on Feb 19, 2017 3:14:56 GMT -5
War Robots lost trust. Even if they fix this now, a lot of people are going to be looking out more when it comes to the bots and weapons they are investing in.
The biggest problem most people are having is the loss of weapons and bots that we all took the time and money to buildup. We lost our light and medium bots. People are complaining about it on about every thread. Also the way the system works, if you play well and get your average damage up you start to be put in with low to medium gold and win/losses stay at around 50% (that's why some people are reporting they are not doing any better or worse but staying stagnant and many are growing bored.) Some continue to play well and end up with tt gold players.. Earlier I was playing and 4 guys on the other team had 12/12 setups across the board (the other 2 had 10/12 and 11/12 stuff. I just turned the corner of 420k average damage. And my equipment is 8-9 mostly medium grade bots. Needless to say, Pixonic's MM did the tanking for me. Losing match after match till I dropped to about 44% wins [somehow it seems that when this freefall starts, we are automatically placed with other people with similar hangers or similar average damage and they too are faced with these tt guys.]
This is a free game, not everyone that plays is a 40 year old business man with 6 figure incomes. People from all over the world play this game. The game is advertised as a free game. For the game to be free, like all of these internet/phone games there has to be a way that people can actually play for free and maintain their account. That's where farming comes in, nothing wrong with it. Eliminate the premise of farming to finance your bots and weapons, then the game cannot advertise as a free to play game any longer. This whole thing hooks people anyway, and most end up spending money to speed up upgrades. So farming is not the end all means of the company losing money but infact it makes them money! Just like casinos handing out $100 in slotmachine coins, they know they are going to get it back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 3:59:05 GMT -5
People are complaining about it on about every thread. Yup, and there's a whole group that's gonna tell us we are wrong, or something is wrong with us
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Post by Strayed on Feb 19, 2017 4:13:12 GMT -5
So this new matchmaker was implemented to cure clubbing, and make things better for new players, right? I honestly think that this new MM was more about driving new players to 12/12 as quickly as possible and forcing "tier campers" into bigger more expensive bots. After they put in the new MM, Pixo turned around and told us, "hey we did this to cure seal clubbing! Aren't we awesome guys who care so deeply for our players?" Brilliant way to spin it! I give pixo that. Actually, Pixo said that before they implemented the new mm, just saying.
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Post by BooBooKitty on Feb 19, 2017 4:22:53 GMT -5
I honestly think that this new MM was more about driving new players to 12/12 as quickly as possible and forcing "tier campers" into bigger more expensive bots. After they put in the new MM, Pixo turned around and told us, "hey we did this to cure seal clubbing! Aren't we awesome guys who care so deeply for our players?" Brilliant way to spin it! I give pixo that. Actually, Pixo said that before they implemented the new mm, just saying. I don't mean that literally in respect to timeframe. Just that the reasons they give to their player base for making large changes, and their actual motivations for doing so are probably not one and the same.
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Post by osang on Feb 19, 2017 4:58:21 GMT -5
It's hard to earn gold/silver nowadays...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 9:20:51 GMT -5
Especially gold, outside of dailies
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Feb 19, 2017 10:25:26 GMT -5
The point of the game is for it to be tough to get gold. From their perspective, the tougher the better. It is a business in the end and they need to make money, in order to make money they need to first and foremost have a player base. Also, they need to hang tantalizing new weapons and bots in front of you which dangle there just out of reach until you finally break and shell out the real cash. This is why they are so focused on weapons and bots rather then game modes and matchmaker or whatever else. They might finally realize that their number one priority being money cannot happen without the player base coming first.
That being said, I highly doubt that farmers were hurting their income. The number of people who play this game blindly, in complete oblivion from any of these online chit chat rings that would never even think of farming or tier hanging is vastly greater than those of us on here. If the their main goal with matchmaker is to eliminate farming then they are clearly going about it wrong. Also, no matter what they do, the bulk of their players will continue on with little to no knowledge of the changes happening around them besides briefly glancing at the updates section when one comes up.
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 19, 2017 12:55:57 GMT -5
Yup, thats it. Thats why PIX encourage and promoted it for so long. Seriously, what do you call special offers for Geps to lower players? What do I call that: Appeasing the little monsters for starters...Who are now trying to literally jackknife the entire game by tantrum quitting and chasing away any new player by jumping them like fresh meat in the prison shower. I don't give a rats behind about Pix's decisions...I like the game , I enjoy playing it, and the MM is just fine for me...I just wish some you jaded chronic complainers would do a real gut check, man up and simply leave. The day I started sounding like you would be my last here. I wouldn't be lingering on this forum ho humming for a pity party to back me up. And I sure as hell would not be trying to vindictively ruin the game for others... You are right the game needs a major player base turnover. Some people who actually are little more mature. All the best to you and the others, you're not happy here, lots a games out there. Hey +DethHilt+ pay no mind to rockwelder. He just wants to bully people with his wallet, and is outraged that people can progress faster than him using F2P tactics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 13:22:40 GMT -5
Hey +DethHilt+ pay no mind to rockwelder. He just wants to bully people with his wallet, and is outraged that people can progress faster than him using F2P tactics. I don't anymore. I blocked him!
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Feb 19, 2017 13:37:05 GMT -5
Hey +DethHilt+ pay no mind to rockwelder. He just wants to bully people with his wallet, and is outraged that people can progress faster than him using F2P tactics. I don't anymore. I blocked him! I thought that post was about me going around linking videos to my posts....lol Don't blame anyone who gets annoyed at me spamming my videos on you all. haha
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Post by SGT D00M! on Feb 19, 2017 13:51:51 GMT -5
Hey +DethHilt+ pay no mind to rockwelder. He just wants to bully people with his wallet, and is outraged that people can progress faster than him using F2P tactics. I don't anymore. I blocked him! Wait!?! I can block both rockwelder and blastronaught and see an immediate 50% reduction in trolling and poo flinging? Count me in!
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 19, 2017 14:09:38 GMT -5
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
The only way to learn how to hold conflicting ideas in your head is to challenge your preconceived assumptions with content that challenges it instead of taking the ready way out and succumbing to confirmation bias.
Also, the only way to improve your competitive play and grow is to play against better competition.
Sharp minds need and seek strong challenges while the dull and the weak look for the easy way out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 15:31:39 GMT -5
I'd place good money on the above post being one of the few people I really find less than useless, trying to convince whoever why they should be listened to. Its probably an excuse that it's what best for us, then some veiled criticism. Which is all irrelevant, cause some want them to shut up or go away, preferably both. Seen it before. Get used to it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 15:32:56 GMT -5
OP, I'm sorry this has gotten off track. Please back on topic.
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Post by [AurN] perfectlyGoodInk on Feb 19, 2017 15:40:56 GMT -5
It's useful to block trolls who do nothing but invite conflict and annoy. When you block opposing viewpoints, the only person you hurt is yourself. Basically stunting your brain. Kinda like how dialing up easy matches dulls your skills.
Just sayin'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 15:54:19 GMT -5
If it continues, there gonna leave a space for someone to exploit and offer serious competition.
Also noticed some increased clan recruiting
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Post by hulkz1 on Feb 19, 2017 17:26:16 GMT -5
Load up a full hangar of 6/7 camelot bots. Masochism defined.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:32:41 GMT -5
I've got 3 Galahads, and 2 Gareths. Now if I could only trade out the Gareths with Lances
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:39:03 GMT -5
I've got 3 Galahads, and 2 Gareths. Now if I could only trade out the Gareths with Lances I wanted to build an entire britbot hangar in low gold previously. Now, I am forced to put off Galahad #3 and a Lancelot for a boring Fury and a couple of Aphids. It takes all the fun out of War Robots
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 20, 2017 0:26:00 GMT -5
So am I the only one getting fair matchups? I am being placed appropriately, based on what the mm thinks my current skill level is. I feel bad for people who want to play lower hangars tho. Seems like they missed that part of the equation. While we certainly gained a more even distribution level (most of the time), we lost diversity. Now I personally don't care, because I am running what I want anyways, but for those who can't, this truly sucks. I hope the n00bs we were supposed to be saving with this have been truly saved. Other than that, I can only hope that the league system salvaged the rest. Here's to hoping.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 20, 2017 0:31:47 GMT -5
Especially gold, outside of dailies To be fair, those who know what's what know that it isn't about gold, it's about silver. I'd rather have double the current silver awards and zero gold rewards to be honest.
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