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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 9:39:31 GMT -5
So I did it, became master spending only 1.99 per month (the 750 gold X2). But I feel myself in a bad situation. My hangar is not so suitable. I'm asking for you wisdom, you all aided me in many ways and topics, for improving in the right way with what I have and what I can get. I have 70.6 millions silver, 21.255 gold, 6.300 wp and only 177k tokens (very unlucky for spectre 7 spin, renew and 6 spins and never got 1400). The plan is to take today the "Spectre 210 comp" X2 and the gold offers too. In this way I have to wait 2 days to got a pre new economy Spectre. My idea is to give him my 4 orkans (Level 12 - 11 -10 and 6 upgrading to 7). And to levelup him till 9 before coming back upgrading orkans. But my Inquisitor will be orkanless. Some ideas? I want to get rid of carnage, maybe I am not so good using it, but in too much games he's the noob.
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The robots in my shelf hare: G.I. Patton (only level 3) , Jesse lvl1, some lvl6 Leos, Rhino lvl 8 (used, but nowadays I feel it out of place), Stalker lvl8, Fujin lvl7, some lvl 6 Natasha, Gareth lvl1, Hoover lvl7, Gepard lvl1, Raijin lvl7, Griffin lvl8 and lvl6. I have other bots, but something like boa and vityaz.
Weapons are: Heavy - Trebuchet level 10 X2 (I have other trebuchets unlivelled), Tempest lvl8 (And another not ugraded), another Zeus lvl 10, Thunder lvl10, Trident lvl5 and another not upgraded, a ton of other heavies like ancile and kang dae not upgraded.
Medium - Storm lvl10 X2 (And some non upgraded), level 6 hydra and other unupgraded 2, Orkan level 10 and a level 6 (Upgrading to 7 read below), Vortex lvl3 and another level 1, a level 1 taran and many tulumbas and ecu not upgraded.
Light - Aphid lvl8 and 7 and many not apgraded, Gust lvl 11 and 10 and many not apgraded, Pinata lvl10 X2, a level 7 and many not upgraded, Gekko lvl7 and 2 not upgraded, an army of not upgraded magnums, few arbalests not upgraded.
Those are the most components I got. betwin 2 days I'll have a Spectre, then I wish to focus on Ember. Advices?
Spectre 8866 Spark 4670 Ember 4512 Ballista 4000 Strider 3972 Haechi 3752
Thank you to everyone will try to help me.
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Post by RightOn on Jun 12, 2018 10:48:20 GMT -5
Orkan kumiho
Taran Ember Inquisitor
Dragoon Shocktrain Lancelot
Enter Spectre
Probably makes sense to build ST spectre even though I hate that and then finally Dragoon Fury
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Post by inspirace on Jun 12, 2018 11:02:05 GMT -5
You have so much gold, why not buying and storing some Orkans before the “new economy?”
The dual ST on Kumiho looks a bit under-powered to me. As mentioned above, perhaps pair them with Dragoon and put on the Lance. Kumiho is better off with Orkan/Taran/Scourges. Quiz could have either Thunder+Orkan or Redeemer+Taran. Then, once the Spectre is equiped with Orkans, I think you have a solid hangar with a beacon runner, 2.5 brawlers and 1.5 mid-rangers (since the Scourge Bulg can do both brawler and mid-ranger).
If you want to go more of supporting roles, Spectre could have Tulus, too. Make sure to have 4+ Tulus before the new economy,
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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 11:19:28 GMT -5
You have so much gold, why not buying and storing some Orkans before the “new economy?” The dual ST on Kumiho looks a bit under-powered to me. As mentioned above, perhaps pair them with Dragoon and put on the Lance. Kumiho is better off with Orkan/Taran/Scourges. Quiz could have either Thunder+Orkan or Redeemer+Taran. Then, once the Spectre is equiped with Orkans, I think you have a solid hangar with a beacon runner, 2.5 brawlers and 1.5 mid-rangers (since the Scourge Bulg can do both brawler and mid-ranger). If you want to go more of supporting roles, Spectre could have Tulus, too. Make sure to have 4+ Tulus before the new economy, I thought about buying 2 orkans, I was hoping to win some, but nothing. I like the St kumiho beacuse you can aim, dash out, shot, dash back in cover and then waiting for cooldown. It works very well, if you don't tryed before, you should (maybe it's my illusion hahaha).
RightOn if I give orkans to Kumiho, what should I give to Spectre? I should give him only 2 orkans, in this way. Ps I have not Ember, I'm only 4512.
Thank you for all the ideas and the time.
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Post by haechii on Jun 12, 2018 11:22:50 GMT -5
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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 11:30:16 GMT -5
Lol, I haven't tought about before.
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Post by Dejnov on Jun 12, 2018 12:08:33 GMT -5
So I did it, became master spending only 1.99 per month (the 750 gold X2). But I feel myself in a bad situation. My hangar is not so suitable. I'm asking for you wisdom, you all aided me in many ways and topics, for improving in the right way with what I have and what I can get. I have 70.6 millions silver, 21.255 gold, 6.300 wp and only 177k tokens (very unlucky for spectre 7 spin, renew and 6 spins and never got 1400). The plan is to take today the "Spectre 210 comp" X2 and the gold offers too. In this way I have to wait 2 days to got a pre new economy Spectre. My idea is to give him my 4 orkans (Level 12 - 11 -10 and 6 upgrading to 7). And to levelup him till 9 before coming back upgrading orkans. But my Inquisitor will be orkanless. Some ideas? I want to get rid of carnage, maybe I am not so good using it, but in too much games he's the noob.
So in anticipation of the spectre in your hangar; you've got two great loadouts for it. You can go full orkan or full shocktrain. Either option works. The orkans are for assault and the shocktrains are for damage/bot killing. I personally like the orkan spectre, but the shocktrain spectre is also a beast.
If you go Orkan Spectre:
Orkan Spectre Scourge Bulgasari Taran/Ember Inquisitor Orkan Kumiho Taran/Ancile Lancelot
The Lance is probably the weak man in the team, but he's acceptable with the ancile. You'll have one fast beacon cappers, two assault bots with descend, one long range to short range assault bot and one beacon defender. This should cover all fronts and you should be able to do well in everything other than team deathmatch (you won't suffer horribly here either).
If you go the Shocktrain Spectre:
Shocktrain Spectre Scourge Bulgasari Orkan/Thunder (Exodus) Inquisitor Taran or (Orkan) Kumiho Taran/Ancile Lancelot
The Lance is still the weak man in the team. You'll have one fast beacon capper, one assault bot with descend, one long range damage bot, one long range to short range assault bot and one beacon defender. You should now shine in team deathmatch (scourge bulg and shocktrain spectre), but you might suffer a bit in KOTH and Beacon rush as you'll only have one fast bot in your hangar (the shocktrain spectre is fast, but you won't be moving him forward at all).
I prefer the first hangar more than the second, but the second is acceptable also. If you do the second, pivot to the shocktrains (2 more) asap ignore the exodus as long as you can. (It won't be affected by the new economy.) For the first you'll want to lock in that ember fairly quickly also.
After that, you'll want to replace the lance first. I suggest another bulgasari as he's just great in all roles. The optimum hangar with the additional bulgasari would be:
Scourge Bulgasari Shocktrain Bulgasari Orkan Spectre Taran/Ember Inquisitor Taran or Orkan Kumiho
This will do very well in Champion.
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Post by inspirace on Jun 12, 2018 12:31:38 GMT -5
You have so much gold, why not buying and storing some Orkans before the “new economy?” The dual ST on Kumiho looks a bit under-powered to me. As mentioned above, perhaps pair them with Dragoon and put on the Lance. Kumiho is better off with Orkan/Taran/Scourges. Quiz could have either Thunder+Orkan or Redeemer+Taran. Then, once the Spectre is equiped with Orkans, I think you have a solid hangar with a beacon runner, 2.5 brawlers and 1.5 mid-rangers (since the Scourge Bulg can do both brawler and mid-ranger). If you want to go more of supporting roles, Spectre could have Tulus, too. Make sure to have 4+ Tulus before the new economy, I thought about buying 2 orkans, I was hoping to win some, but nothing. I like the St kumiho beacuse you can aim, dash out, shot, dash back in cover and then waiting for cooldown. It works very well, if you don't tryed before, you should (maybe it's my illusion hahaha).
RightOn if I give orkans to Kumiho, what should I give to Spectre? I should give him only 2 orkans, in this way. Ps I have not Ember, I'm only 4512.
Thank you for all the ideas and the time.
I am pledged not to run a ST, so I can only speak out of my expeience dealing with enemy ST bots. If it works for you now, than why not? But I think you may find it having not enough firepower as you advance in league. It may work well in FFA as a hyena role (i.e. finishing off dying bots) though, even in higher leagues. You have more than 20k Au, right? If I were you, I would just buy out at least two more Orkans to fill in the Spectre. Then, I would convert some Au into wsp and go out to buy daily offers, focusing on completing the Ember at least after the Spectre, before the new economy.
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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 12:53:13 GMT -5
inspirace Spectre will be done in 2 days and then my plan is to work for Ember. I understand your point abount St. Maybe when I rose in league I will have more St to fill another bot. It's a point I never tought about, indeed. Thank you. Dejnov problem is I have only 2 St and 4 Orkans and I have not Ember (I hope to take it before economy change, I'm at 4512 components). Your loadouts are very good, tough, so I'll keep in mind for the moment I'll get all the stuff.
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Post by Dejnov on Jun 12, 2018 13:43:02 GMT -5
inspirace Spectre will be done in 2 days and then my plan is to work for Ember. I understand your point abount St. Maybe when I rose in league I will have more St to fill another bot. It's a point I never tought about, indeed. Thank you. Dejnov problem is I have only 2 St and 4 Orkans and I have not Ember (I hope to take it before economy change, I'm at 4512 components). Your loadouts are very good, tough, so I'll keep in mind for the moment I'll get all the stuff.
Then I would definitely go for the first load out (orkan spectre) and plan to transition to the third load out (two bulgasaris) as you keep moving forward.
Good luck!!
Dejnov.
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Post by hi5 on Jun 12, 2018 13:49:35 GMT -5
I agree with above, that ST Kumi just doesn’t do enough damage in higher leagues - you can sit in it all day zapping reds and not do enough to make a difference. To keep progressing (if that is what you want) you need to keep increasing total damage dealt even if you mech out faster.
IMO spend your gold on 2-4 more orkans and buy a few more Tarans (if I read correctly and you only have 3). Then focus on specter and ember. Try to get as much as possible before the new economy. Also, we’re you considering a Haechi? That could replace the Lance over time (and use up those new Orks/Tarans).
Beyond that, looks like you have a solid hangar and tentative plans to keep progressing.
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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 17:41:43 GMT -5
thank you, I'm now 9706 for Spectre. Only 2 days and I'll get it. But Ember will take almost 4 week so, late for old economy (so sad).
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Post by White1Golf on Jun 12, 2018 17:48:36 GMT -5
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Post by calehb on Jun 12, 2018 19:00:29 GMT -5
You're surely right. You're actually a better player then me, but I asked about hangar because of this. I suppose I'm getting better with the time going on, but I'm not a very good player now. Often I met many mk2 spectres with 12 or mk2 12 weapons and I'm good enough to prevail. So my question was about hangar, but I agree with you.
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Post by calehb on Jun 13, 2018 20:57:21 GMT -5
Just a wird idea: what if I stick the 2st I have and 2 tulumbas to the Spectre? I know it's a frankenstain, but I hit at 500mt and in some way I dead damage to many reds. Is it so useless?
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Post by Carbonite on Jun 13, 2018 21:38:28 GMT -5
Just a wird idea: what if I stick the 2st I have and 2 tulumbas to the Spectre? I know it's a frankenstain, but I hit at 500mt and in some way I dead damage to many reds. Is it so useless? Not useless. You can then decide if you like one more than the other. You could put both ST on the same side so you can corner shoot while Descend reloads. |
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Post by calehb on Jun 14, 2018 19:04:54 GMT -5
Just a little update: I have the Spectre. I need "only" time to upgrade. At what level can I start playing it in master legue, in your honest opinon?
I can say my 4 orkan are 12, 11, 10, 8 now.
I'm now grinding for Ember.
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Post by calehb on Aug 27, 2018 13:05:53 GMT -5
Guys, I'm back in the search of your wiseness. Time went on and my hangar got a couple of improvements and shelf stuff. This is my active hangar right now:
As you can see this is not maxed out for the Master Legue II I'm in. All you can see in this screenshot is old economy and I'm upgrading 2 grandfathered orkans (10 and 9) for the Kumiho (I'm not good using storm kumiho).
Some weapons I have:
Weapons are:
Heavy - Trebuchet level 10 X2 (I have other trebuchets unlivelled), Tempest lvl8 (And another not ugraded), some Thunder lvl10 and 11, Trident lvl5 and another not upgraded, a ton of other heavies like ancile and kang dae not upgraded.
Medium - multiple level 1 Storm , level 6 hydra and other unupgraded 2, Orkan level 10 and a level 11 (and a few at level 1 stage), Vortex lvl3 and another level 1, many level 1 taran and many tulumbas, 2 old economy Shocktrain (borh level11).
Light - Aphid lvl8 and 7 and many not apgraded, Gust lvl 11 and 10 and many not apgraded, Pinata lvl10 X2, a level 7 and many not upgraded, Gekko lvl7 and 2 not upgraded, an army of not upgraded magnums, few arbalests not upgraded.
I was upgrading those 2 orkans for my kumiho, when I tought about 2 new economy bots I have: Haechi and Strider. Yes I know, I have many unlevelled old economy bots and weapons, but can be useful tu levelup one of those guys? I have 22,5k gold for speed up a few. What do you think? Can it be worth the time and silver?
Thank you very much.
Ps I have many stuff I have not wrote here but nothing strong.
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 27, 2018 13:25:17 GMT -5
Don't worry too much about the levels. You're generally higher than me and I'm in M1 right now - struggling a bit, but it is what it is. Anyway, if it were me, I would put Orkans on the Kumiho. I'm not that good with Storms, and 2 of them on a Kumiho is hard to run. As good as the Kumiho is at closing the range, I've found that stealth works better than dash when it comes to using shotgun builds. The problem is that the Kumiho has to get in very close to make the most of the Storms, and if you get too close, you can't disengage easily. After that, if you need a goal, try to get 2 more Dragoons for the Fury.
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Post by calehb on Aug 27, 2018 15:36:38 GMT -5
I know, but 2 dragoons should be eternal to get at almost level 10 (This is old economy).
So, in my shoes, you shouldn't upgrade strider or Haechi (new economy so sad).
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