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Post by wildboar on Feb 13, 2017 10:37:43 GMT -5
Back before the MM change I was a happy pilot ... 2 Boas (one thunder taran, the other thunder Orkan) & 2 Gepards mags &aphids... 80% win Gepards for beacons & harassing...Boas for good old fashioned brawling Since the MM I tried to readjust... I got slot 5 so stuck another Boa into it... But my win rate crashed ...down to 38%..I faced lvl 10 bots with lvl10 weapons with 2 lvl 4 Geps & 3 lvl 4 Boas ... It was a slaughterfest I tried all sorts... Full hangar of Griffin's ..one pins/tulum ...one taran mag...one aphid Orkan..molots.. Punishers ...spiral/hydra Levelling up as much as possible They seemed to work well but I missed the Boa... The Gep was just too fragile The lunar event sucked ...nothing of any note from that Anyway this is where I am  I now have 1300 Au & 13k wsp... Just want to make the next step without making the mistakes of the past.. Gold is harder to come by now ...i seem to either lose as top placed person or come bottom 3 from a win...on a tie for beacons I always seem to lose out... My thoughts are save like crazy for a Galahad... Mainly by doing the daily tasks I could get a Gareth now but are they viable long term ? I seem to kill quite a few I could also get a carnage with wsp... Have tried a rhino on a friend account and didn't like it...maybe there is a steep learning curve with that one? Weapons I have available Most are lvl 6/7 or 8 2 orkans 2 tarans 2 aphids 6 magnums 2 hydras - a bit weak 1 trident - didn't really think much to it 1 Gecko - feeble Loads of Thunders/pins/pinatas/tulumbas... A set of lvl 5 punishers & molots ( 2 light /2 med of each) I can field a full hangar of Boas ...a full hangar of Griff's .. The only premium bot I have is the 2 geps Is it worth pushing a Gep up the levels? I don't think so... I wish I could trade them back in for gold ... Advice greatly appreciated :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:55:12 GMT -5
My main suggestion would be drop the hydra's and replace with your Orkan's or tarans.
Work on upgrading your weapons all to the same level, then run an upgrade cycle on your bots.
And just hold on tight and fight those reds.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 13, 2017 11:00:14 GMT -5
Drop the boas. The current meta does not take into account the weight of the Bots. If you can afford it you can replace the Boas with a Rhino, Lancelot or a Gallahad. You can mount those orkans on a DB griffin.
If you need a dedicated beacon capper go Gareth or stalker. I always reserve at least one slot for a beacon capper.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 11:12:50 GMT -5
Not to disparage the previous poster, but a Rhino costs 15k wsp. , plus upgrade costs and time. A Lancelot costs 5k in gold, Galahad 2500 in gold.
The OP states he has 1300 in gold and 13k in wsp.
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Post by wildboar on Feb 13, 2017 12:09:04 GMT -5
Hmmm yes I guess I could shelve the Boas again ... shame - i feel strangely loyal to those fellas Add a Griff with Pins & Tulumbas ... or two ... or maybe another Leo ... or maybe an Natasha ( I had one of those early on but sold it for being so slow) Orks on the Griff instead of hydras - OK - I get that ... did run it for a while when I was running 5 Griffs Is there anything worth doing with the 2 Hydras? Are Carnages worth it? @13k WSP I don't want to save for a Rhino and find I just can't adjust to it .. it seemed a sitting duck most of the time when I tried my friends or I could blow the WSP on 2 new Tarans for another plasma Griff The upgrade cycles are looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong  I only have enough Au for 1 Orkan ... I guess the Au purchase is the one that needs to be absolutely right ... the WSP will keep trickling in ... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 12:42:28 GMT -5
wildboar I wouldn't drop your boa's at the moment. Your current hangar suggest you like face to face. If I was in your situation, and again this is just my opinion, I would level all weapons. Then think about where you want to go. This game is a long term investment in time and patience. As you run this current hangar maybe at a 8/8 or 9/9 level for bots and weapons, you can start to save silver and gold. Then in the background you can start to build what bots you like for the future. In the Android I have seen a lot of Carnage with either, Tridents, Zeus, and Thunders. Mostly level 9/9. Rhino and Carnage both take time to learn to drive. In Android I run lvl 8 bots and lvl 9 weapons. Cause upgrades take so long, as you stated. In iOS I run a much higher level of bot and weapon. Been at it much longer there. Once your established you will be able to interchange your bots and move up to the higher levels if you wish. On the Hydras not my style so I can't help you with them. I have 2 and I don't use them. I can't tell you want to buy or spend your wsp or gold on. That's your decision. My observations are my own and meant to help if I can. Those decisions are are entirely up to you. Two tips I might give you are, keep a small notebook on War Robots to keep track of what you have going on. After you finish a battle check out all profiles opposition and your team. See what they have. Compare hangar, get ideals about what goes with what and what seems to work. Then base some of your decisions on that info also. Good luck, it is a long haul. Keep focused and you will be alright.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 13, 2017 12:55:26 GMT -5
Not to disparage the previous poster, but a Rhino costs 15k wsp. , plus upgrade costs and time. A Lancelot costs 5k in gold, Galahad 2500 in gold. The OP states he has 1300 in gold and 13k in wsp. Ok I get it, not enough gold. WSP will trickle in and shouldn't be much of an issue if you can wait.
But the boas to me are not that effective in the current meta. If you want to replace them on the cheap, Leos with thunder and piñatas are a good option. The play style is similar but the leos are tougher and packs more of a punch.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Feb 13, 2017 13:28:37 GMT -5
Id probably pull the two boas, I pulled mine. Add a pin/tulu griff and a thunder pinata leo. Use your last griff as an orkan aphid platform. I ran a very similiar hanger and lucked out during the event so now have a plasmahad as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 15:59:16 GMT -5
I am a big Boa fan, but I agree with the previous posters as well. In the current game, I would combine your Orkans with Pinatas and make a DB Griff to fill one slot, use your aphids to make an Aphid Leo or hybrid aphid Leo for the other Boa, and turn the hydra/aphid griff into a Tulu/Pins Griff.
Cheers!
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Post by buzzard on Feb 13, 2017 16:28:15 GMT -5
I am a big Boa fan, but I agree with the previous posters as well. In the current game, I would combine your Orkans with Pinatas and make a DB Griff to fill one slot, use your aphids to make an Aphid Leo or hybrid aphid Leo for the other Boa, and turn the hydra/aphid griff into a Tulu/Pins Griff. Cheers! I agree with Panda- one RDB one DB griff. Both are great against the shield bots. For now put a Taran on one of the LEOs to get some more plasma in there. I think you should keep saving for a gal and a gareth (both plasma). Eventually you will want to replace the Leo as well and at that point you will have played around a bit to see if you want another heavy knife fighter like a Lance. |
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Post by wrilley on Feb 15, 2017 4:45:11 GMT -5
I still run two Boas alongside a DB Grif, Galahad, and Gareth. Because Leos got both a speed and health boost they are probably technically better, but I can't get into them. I like the feel of the Boas. Wrapping is a great way to avoid damage which somewhat compensates for the lower hp. I'm considering a second Galahad or something to replace one of the Boas, but I like them too much so I haven't pulled the trigger*. I prefer Orks to Tarans for the burst damage and splash. Plasma goes on the britbots. I wish the Boa were faster though. The heavies getting a speed boost hurt it more than Tridents do.
One caveat is that I don't run any mid-range. An RDB Grif is cheap and effective if you don't want to stubbornly cling to knife-fighting.
*Also waiting to see what happens with the new Dash bot. That looks really interesting, and I'm holding onto my currency waiting to see if it goes live.
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Post by wildboar on Feb 15, 2017 5:26:20 GMT -5
Well ... I have benched the boas .. Leo as above Plasma Griff (as above) RDB Griff (Tulum/Pin) Ork /Aphid Griff (took off Hydras put on Orks from Boas) So ... what to do with the spare slot? ....  A Golem with a Trident Hydra & Spiral ... it's a bit squishy at Lvl 4 but seems OK ... no hiding around corners from that one at anything less than 600m  doesn't deliver a huge amount of damage though ... seems good for mopping up late in a game when several enemies have taken damage and taken cover... or popping a beacon capper out in the open  still wrestling with whether to blow my WSP on a carnage or not ... start with 2 thunders then save for a second Trident the upgrade on my ork to lvl 8 ... takes ages  ... still has 12 hours on it ... there is no rushing with these upgrades. |
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Post by psychoticwolf13 on Feb 15, 2017 9:55:51 GMT -5
You would most likely do better with a fugin. And i know what you mean. When the MM system was reset, everyone was kind of thrown into the meat grinder. my average was in the upper 400,000 an dropped dangerously close to the 200,000. Just keep grinding until you get that average back up. Also, get rid of one of your Boas. They are good, but are not strong enough in the long run. great robot to beacon rush with at the beginning of the match, but not much else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 13:47:14 GMT -5
If you are on the fence about the carnage, i dont think you would regret getting one. Even if the double thunder set up isn't for you, they seem to make a very effective trident carriers that you could deploy downstream. A relatively fast bot that can carry two heavy weapons will likely always be useful in some form or another.
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Post by psychoticwolf13 on Feb 15, 2017 13:50:40 GMT -5
If you are on the fence about the carnage, i dont think you would regret getting one. Even if the double thunder set up isn't for you, they seem to make a very effective trident carriers that you could deploy downstream. A relatively fast bot that can carry two heavy weapons will likely always be useful in some form or another. Carnages are only fast when they are rushing, however |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 14:00:37 GMT -5
psychoticwolf13, 40kph at rest, 66kph in rush = relatively fast by my definition. But you are right, not fast compared to a light. But certainly quicker than anything else with two heavy hardpoints.
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A Golem with a Trident Hydra & Spiral ... it's a bit squishy at Lvl 4 but seems OK ... no hiding around corners from that one at anything less than 600m 
doesn't deliver a huge amount of damage though ... seems good for mopping up late in a game when several enemies have taken damage and taken cover... or popping a beacon capper out in the open 
... still has 12 hours on it ... there is no rushing with these upgrades.
