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Post by anjian on May 22, 2018 9:43:34 GMT -5
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Post by taniel on May 22, 2018 12:07:48 GMT -5
Don't you think that you should put here a description of some kind?
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Post by Loganspawn on May 22, 2018 12:28:12 GMT -5
Don't you think that you should put here a description of some kind? Why George.....
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Post by sm94 on May 22, 2018 13:00:46 GMT -5
Cool, always figured ember was so much more powerful. Im happy with my redeemer.
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Post by MurXdoC on May 22, 2018 14:26:00 GMT -5
No offense but this test is most likely pretty inaccurate and worthless since you don't test it on moving targets. I use both but the Redeemer is far superior when it comes to fighting fast moving targets. Overall i would still go with the Ember though
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Post by grendelsbot on May 22, 2018 15:28:43 GMT -5
I like the Redeemer. Ember does have the benefits of going through all shield types but on a faster moving target you're going to miss alot more than on a Redeemer. Ember has the fear factor. When you see a huge flame shooting at you you tend to run. Not many people go "O no it's a Redeemer"
I use the Taran/Redeemer setup on my second Lance. He will get shallacked except as used as a backup. Same as an Inquis does though after it's Descend wears off. At least my Lance stops plasma for awhile.
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on May 22, 2018 19:55:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately that was on the test server. Any proof that the redeemer had equal performance to the live server version? I don’t trust that pix wouldn’t give slight buffs to test server versions of weapons that have gotten a bad name here on the forums. Boost sales of weapons that virtually everyone is bashing a underperforming.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 20:00:27 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing?
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Post by sm94 on May 22, 2018 20:05:14 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? Its just that its a better setup for a lance.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 20:11:52 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? Its just that its a better setup for a lance. Considered that too and I even have available lancelot. It's just that... slowness of lance turns me off. But I'll give it some more thought.
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Post by lmmfaoumf on May 22, 2018 20:28:07 GMT -5
I run a level 10 Redeemer instead of my level 11 Ember with tarans on my Quis. Accuracy is the difference for me.
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Post by snk on May 22, 2018 21:10:38 GMT -5
They both have advantages and disadvantages (according to wiki)
Burst dps - Draw. (Ember has higher dps, but redeemer seems doing the same burst dps due to Ember’s fire slower travel speed) Cycle damage - Ember (Ember 147000 vs Redeemer 102000) Projectile Speed - Redeemer (Ember’s fire has slowest travel speed in War Robots) Ignore shield - Ember (Ember ignore all shield while Redeemer only ignore energy shield) Upgrade cost and time - Ember (they have same upgrade time but Ember cheaper to upgrade)
Choose the weapon for your need, I don’t think one is way better than the other. It really depends what bot you up against.
I am going to try Exodus/Orkan when Exodus come out, better version of DB Griffin.
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Post by anjian on May 23, 2018 2:19:16 GMT -5
I got two Inqs now in my main battle hanger, one with Ember and one with Redeemer, just to further test the idea out. The one with the Redeemer pulled a Godlike string of kills yesterday on Valley.
I was considering to have the two replaced with Dragoons. I was testing the idea on the test server. Nice to see those dash bots thinking that if they get past 350m they are safe from the Tarans, but end up still being pounded by the Dragoon. The Dragoon offers the versatility of sniping at targets, finishing off weakened ones.
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Post by xelraon on May 23, 2018 2:24:47 GMT -5
Anyone tested dragoon taran inq? Im kinda inclined towards it since you can punch up close and still deal damage 600m away. No scourges for me yet so tarans will do.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on May 23, 2018 3:47:51 GMT -5
Anyone tested dragoon taran inq? Im kinda inclined towards it since you can punch up close and still deal damage 600m away. No scourges for me yet so tarans will do. I did. I was on the receiving end in my Haechi/Spectre/Inquisitor. I hate this build with my whole heart.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on May 23, 2018 3:56:31 GMT -5
They both have advantages and disadvantages (according to wiki) Burst dps - Draw. (Ember has higher dps, but redeemer seems doing the same burst dps due to Ember’s fire slower travel speed) Cycle damage - Ember (Ember 147000 vs Redeemer 102000) Projectile Speed - Redeemer (Ember’s fire has slowest travel speed in War Robots) Ignore shield - Ember (Ember ignore all shield while Redeemer only ignore energy shield) Upgrade cost and time - Ember (they have same upgrade time but Ember cheaper to upgrade) Choose the weapon for your need, I don’t think one is way better than the other. It really depends what bot you up against. I am going to try Exodus/Orkan when Exodus come out, better version of DB Griffin. You can add 2 more on the Ember side: 1. Fire wall - I killed many bots chasing me around the corner... they couldn't hit me because of no LOS, but they "walked in fire" till death. 2. Fire (projectiles) don't have to hit center of the bot as with Redeemer/Taran. It's like splash for Orkans. Countless times I poured "river of fire" to the KOTH beacon and almost always I popped at least 1-2 bots hiding behind posts. Not to say you don't want to stay next to the beacon when you see fire flowing your way. But, anyway, I will test Redeemer
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Post by anjian on May 23, 2018 4:08:25 GMT -5
Anyone tested dragoon taran inq? Im kinda inclined towards it since you can punch up close and still deal damage 600m away. No scourges for me yet so tarans will do. I got all my Dragoons reserved on a Fury and I am not sure if I want to disassemble it to move the Dragoons to my Inqs. But I did test the setup on the last test server session on the new Rome map. I like the fact that people will try to get past 350m to escape your Tarans, then realizing that distancing is not what they should be doing. Dragoon punches well close up, and it recharges up like a Thunder. Given the effect of it, Dragoon-Inq is still something I am considering and might experiment further.
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Post by grendelsbot on May 23, 2018 15:00:53 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? Its just that its a better setup for a lance. This is my current build on my Inquis. Inquis is better as you can jump (Descend) and hit people whereas the Lance can't. I used to run a Dragoon instead but the Zeus is more accurate and instant damage. Inquis also is not as good a brawler as a Lance in my opinion. I leave my Lances at an Ancilot and a Lance with a Redeemer.
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Post by allanpeter on May 23, 2018 22:34:30 GMT -5
No offense but this test is most likely pretty inaccurate and worthless since you don't test it on moving targets. I use both but the Redeemer is far superior when it comes to fighting fast moving targets. Overall i would still go with the Ember though That’s true though I’m surprised redeemer won at all(and technically tied a few times).
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Post by 0ppressor on Jun 5, 2018 0:41:14 GMT -5
Thank you for this.
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Post by ˢᵘᵇᶜᵒᵒˡˢᵘᵖᵉʳʰᵉᵃᵗ on Jun 5, 2018 11:32:38 GMT -5
Hahahahaha
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Post by DiscountDalek on Jun 5, 2018 18:41:04 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? Not using an inquisitor, yet. But, my Carnage with dual Zeus was embarassingly limited on kills, even back in Gold League. The damage sucks, the reload sucks and it also makes you a very visible target when you light up.
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Post by BossieBos on Jun 5, 2018 18:57:58 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? I’ve ran Taran/Ember first, but am now running Zeus/Scourges on it. Way more successful with it. Can pick off enemies starting from 600m range and close in, walk away and keep at safe distance, or go in for a hardcore kill up close and personal. Haechis and Kumihos love me. Especially when they have Taran or Orkan builds. Will probably replace the Zeus with a Dragoon, though, once it’s up to level 10+. Keep in mind that with Zeus, even though a short strong blast, it takes a while to cooldown. Up until now I’ve seen only one other Inquis with that same build. Personally it works very well for me, mainly because I prefer to play at mid-range.
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Post by JaCrispy (ノ°益°)ノ on Jun 6, 2018 8:39:31 GMT -5
I run an Inquisitor with Dragoon/Tarans. The extra 250 meters has saved my life quite a few times when other pilots think they are closing in for the kill. I tried it with the Ember, but a single one often doesn't provide the burst damage to get the job done fast enough. Of course, whenever I can acquire an Exodus, I'll move to pairing with Orkans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 10:53:22 GMT -5
Does anybody use Zeus on Inquisitor? With two scourges, for example. This build doesn't seem to have many fans, is there some obvious flaw with it that I'm missing? Not using an inquisitor, yet. But, my Carnage with dual Zeus was embarassingly limited on kills, even back in Gold League. The damage sucks, the reload sucks and it also makes you a very visible target when you light up. Right, I was never big fan of Carnages in general. While they have decent firepower and speed I always thought their ancile and HPs are too weak. BossieBosI agree Dragoon might be the better idea, it has the same range and doesn't require lock. Right now my Inquisitor is being used in another way, I have Thunder/Storms on it and it's really great for FFA mode. I might try Zeus on Lancelot with scourges, but that's only because I can't try Dragoon (don't have one yet). I hope that 1500 gold Zeus won't turn out to be complete waste.
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Post by grendelsbot on Jun 14, 2018 15:37:46 GMT -5
I hate the Ember, mine is all 11 and I just dont get this idea that it's doing major damage. Maybe it's just after jumping and trying to hit Dash bots and other fast moving things. I loved the Zeus/Scourge. Once I get a Dragoon past level 6 I'll reeveluate.
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Post by ˢᵘᵇᶜᵒᵒˡˢᵘᵖᵉʳʰᵉᵃᵗ on Jun 14, 2018 15:46:10 GMT -5
I hate the Ember, mine is all 11 and I just dont get this idea that it's doing major damage. Maybe it's just after jumping and trying to hit Dash bots and other fast moving things. I loved the Zeus/Scourge. Once I get a Dragoon past level 6 I'll reeveluate. Ember is a great weapon, mine is lvl 9 in masters3, it kills, just need to know the mechanics of it
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Post by JaCrispy (ノ°益°)ノ on Jun 15, 2018 14:05:24 GMT -5
Save up for Exodus, just paired it with Orkans on the Quiz and I'm very impressed so far.
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