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Post by imperius on May 21, 2018 15:29:04 GMT -5
what should i buy
Lancelot or galahad whit orkan?
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Post by LEGEND on May 21, 2018 15:30:39 GMT -5
Lancelot
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Post by windcaster on May 21, 2018 15:32:32 GMT -5
What he said, not even a hard question. |
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Post by imperius on May 21, 2018 15:33:44 GMT -5
What he said, not even a hard question. what weapons for Lancelot? |
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Post by LEGEND on May 21, 2018 15:33:47 GMT -5
The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though
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Post by imperius on May 21, 2018 15:34:27 GMT -5
The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though why? |
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Post by MurXdoC on May 21, 2018 15:35:32 GMT -5
Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance.
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Post by windcaster on May 21, 2018 15:38:24 GMT -5
What he said, not even a hard question. what weapons for Lancelot? Ancile/Tarans.. It's the most popular build cause it's a sold brawler setup.. can sub out for orkans if you like.. sometimes rarely see a scourge lance.. can't comment how well they preform. The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though For what role? Fury is better for MR/LR.. Lance is a brawler. |
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Post by LEGEND on May 21, 2018 15:38:30 GMT -5
The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though why? More firepower, higher hp, etc. |
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Post by LEGEND on May 21, 2018 15:39:52 GMT -5
what weapons for Lancelot? Ancile/Tarans.. It's the most popular build cause it's a sold brawler setup.. can sub out for orkans if you like.. sometimes rarely see a scourge lance.. can't comment how well they preform. The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though For what role? Fury is better for MR/LR.. Lance is a brawler. Fury Ember/Exodus (Ancile) would easily beat any Lancelot setup... and you're also correct that the Fury is a better MR/LR as well. |
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Post by imperius on May 21, 2018 15:41:00 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury?  |
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Post by windcaster on May 21, 2018 15:46:05 GMT -5
Depends.. do you feel the need to add mid range or long range support on your hanger? or you wanna stick with close range bots?
Lance for close, Fury makes a good support bot MR/LR
I'd ditch the Nat for the Lance.. Im assuming you like up close since you have the Nat setup for close range.
Although You could ditch the leo for a lance, and keep the nat reconfigured for MR/LR
Depends on if you want a balanced hanger or if you like to fight up close.. me all my bots are close range fighters.. but you really pay the price on large maps like canyon with not much cover in the middle and out ranged on either end.
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Post by imperius on May 21, 2018 15:53:24 GMT -5
Depends.. do you feel the need to add mid range or long range support on your hanger? or you wanna stick with close range bots? Lance for close, Fury makes a good support bot MR/LR I'd ditch the Nat for the Lance.. Im assuming you like up close since you have the Nat setup for close range. Although You could ditch the leo for a lance, and keep the nat reconfigured for MR/LR Depends on if you want a balanced hanger or if you like to fight up close.. me all my bots are close range fighters.. but you really pay the price on large maps like canyon with not much cover in the middle and out ranged on either end. ok thx for helping me |
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Post by teraflx on May 21, 2018 17:14:57 GMT -5
I own a Lance and a Fury (No experience with a Galahad) and I personally like the Lance a lot more than the Fury. My Fury is actually just collecting dust, I don't even use it anymore. It was so slow and such a massive target. It was only good for long range in my opinion and I am just not a long range fighter, I find it to be too boring. I tried it as a mid range with 2 Zeus and an Ancile but I was a sitting duck once they decided to charge in.
I personally still use my Lance and it is a good bot but not great. You almost have to pair it with an Ancile or you wont last too long since it is big and slow. I use mine with Orkans now but also did Tarans for quite some time. Use it wise and stay under cover until the time is right and zap right back under cover and you can do some nice damage. I also like to just hang out one arm and empty my Orkan on already damaged bots for the kill while maintaining good cover.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on May 21, 2018 17:29:38 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury? none go for 5th slot. My level 10 punisher griffin can kill level 12 lancelots easily. %25 more time and more flexibility more firepower and more fun. Pixdix can nerf lancelot (which they did) but cant nerf 5th slot. |
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Post by milty72 on May 21, 2018 18:30:52 GMT -5
Galahad and Lancelot are to very different bots. So it depends on your game style. I run both at Mk2 12. Both can get shot down easy and they can both last quite well too, it's just knowing what to fight against.
I run my Galahad in Level 10 shotgun mode.
I run my Lancelot with a Mk2 Lvl 12 Ancile and a Lvl 10 Scourge for a bit of range seeing as he waddles around so slowly and a lvl 10 orkan to hose them down when you get in range.
Just don't let them get on your side or behind.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 19:40:16 GMT -5
Between the two.. lance with ancile. That gives you a physical shield and ancile shield.
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Post by T34 on May 21, 2018 20:10:14 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury? I start accounts every now and than. If you want to hang around in the game a bit longer than do not buy a lance or a galahad. Forget the fury as well.
Galahad and the lance are obsolete. Not worth the price and definitely not worth the upgrade costs. The lance will take you longer up in the leagues than a galahad but they are both intermediate bots that are too expensive for what they are at this point in time.
The new economy that will drop soon will increase upgrade costs but any purchased gear will be grandfathered. Buy equal portions of tarans and orkans. If you like hydras than grab two or three of those too. I’d much rather have 4 grandfathered orkans than one lance. Not a question in my mind what so ever.
Out of that, build two DB griffins and one PDB griffin and one hydra griffin and whatch your damage go through the ceiling. upgrade those medium weapons but do not touch the bots.
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Post by drovo1 on May 21, 2018 20:44:36 GMT -5
Ancile/Tarans.. It's the most popular build cause it's a sold brawler setup.. can sub out for orkans if you like.. sometimes rarely see a scourge lance.. can't comment how well they preform. For what role? Fury is better for MR/LR.. Lance is a brawler. Fury Ember/Exodus (Ancile) would easily beat any Lancelot setup... and you're also correct that the Fury is a better MR/LR as well. Hi Legend, I don't have the Ember/Exodus weapons so I can't comment on how well the Fury does as a brawler; however I'm hesitant to believe the Fury can beat the Lancelot as a brawler overall. Maybe in some situations, like a beacon rush, and you drop the Fury in the middle of the action. It does have more firepower so it could do more DPS, yes. But survivability and mobility are worth taking into consideration. I think the corner-shoot ability of the Lance also adds to its durability and effectiveness. I only say this because the Lancelot is currently the best bot in my lineup and I don't know if I could see a Fury build replacing it. Example: I often select my Tarancilot as first-bot out in Domination. The plan is to rush to center beacon ASAP, take and hold it. I expect both blue and red Kumihos to get there first, so Tarancilot can take-out any red first comers. If I was to rely on the Fury to fill this role, I think the Fury would be too slow. Anyways, your Fury build sounds interesting so I'm wondering if you've actually used it with success or just speculating. |
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Post by rags on May 21, 2018 20:47:53 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury? I start accounts every now and than. If you want to hang around in the game a bit longer than do not buy a lance or a galahad. Forget the fury as well.
Galahad and the lance are obsolete. Not worth the price and definitely not worth the upgrade costs. The lance will take you longer up in the leagues than a galahad but they are both intermediate bots that are too expensive for what they are at this point in time.
The new economy that will drop soon will increase upgrade costs but any purchased gear will be grandfathered. Buy equal portions of tarans and orkans. If you like hydras than grab two or three of those too. I’d much rather have 4 grandfathered orkans than one lance. Not a question in my mind what so ever.
Out of that, build two DB griffins and one PDB griffin and one hydra griffin and whatch your damage go through the ceiling. upgrade those medium weapons but do not touch the bots.
This except I’d go with 2 plasma griffs. Best OG build for fighting dash bots. |
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Post by eco on May 22, 2018 2:51:54 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury? go for the lance, you already have a heavy plattform with the natasha. also the natasha is easy to upgrade The classic lance setup is ancile and two tarans. You should add tarans to your setup - maybe they are hard to get at your lvl but they are a must have. Also you have no orkans also a must have. I would not upgrade three thunders max two. They are not that effective in higher levels. ... and you have too many aphid's. two are ok, with 5 you waste too much upgrade time and silver in redundant weapon. A cheaper option would be a griffin with magnum, taran. Very powerful setup and you will be able to use the tarans/magnums later btw. the stalker can be very effective if you use the stealth wisely and hide back into cover quickly. Stalker is no good in higher levels since it dies quickly but it is a good plattform to practice stealth ability and at your level the stalker should be very good. |
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Post by lepetomane on May 22, 2018 5:07:24 GMT -5
Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. That was my initial thought as well. Then i started building a shotgun ‘had for some new perspective and putting me storm upgrade im doing for spectre to good use. Thinking was: with all the plasma n ST could this shield bot be viable? Turns out it is... but One has to be very aware of the rockets on the field. It can rel easily go through shielded bots like ancilot (sitting duck) n more importantly bulga (current record 3 in a row, (ST/Scourge) in a mix master expert battle). Its profile is right height to manually shoot inqui in stealth. imperiusWrt which bot tp buy: Ancilot is easier to play, has more room for error due to double shield, but i find playing the shothad more rewarding as u rly need to ‘plan’ ur actions + it is so much more mobile (using speed n cover manage to escape from certain death orkan trap regularly)I replaced my lancelot w lvl7 spectre orks recently, keeping the shothad. Note: im not a good pilot and although i aim for the highest dmg i can do, fun factor counts as well. For me the shothad helps on both aspects. I think id wait to see what modules do before buying a gold bot, unless gold is no issue. Than look at ur playstyle to choose one. For completeness sake my hangar:  |
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Post by frunobulax on May 22, 2018 5:10:10 GMT -5
The Fury is a better bot than Lancelot though Apples and oranges. Lancelot is a brawler, Fury a midranger. |
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Post by frunobulax on May 22, 2018 5:18:53 GMT -5
Fury Ember/Exodus (Ancile) would easily beat any Lancelot setup... and you're also correct that the Fury is a better MR/LR as well. Hi Legend, I don't have the Ember/Exodus weapons so I can't comment on how well the Fury does as a brawler; however I'm hesitant to believe the Fury can beat the Lancelot as a brawler overall. Maybe in some situations, like a beacon rush, and you drop the Fury in the middle of the action. Correct. In those rare situations I'd rather go with a Raijin. But how often does this happen in normal gameplay? You might have some success in lower leagues, but then, a Thunder/Ember Gust or Thunder Punisher Natasha does the job just as well and doesn't cost 5k gold. In higher leagues, any brawler must have speed - Inquisitors jumping at you left and right, and Orkan Haechis/Spectres unleashing a barrage of Orkans, if you can't get into cover within 3 seconds then you're as good as dead. (Lancelots 50kph when sprinting is already rather slow, but the 2 shields give it some extra protection. Not against Embers though.) Fury works best hanging back with Zeus/Dragoon/Flux, shooting over cover. Lancelot brawls with Ancile and Scourge/Taran, and can move through open space while taking a few hits from energy weapons. |
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Post by frunobulax on May 22, 2018 5:31:32 GMT -5
Ancile/Tarans.. It's the most popular build cause it's a sold brawler setup.. can sub out for orkans if you like.. sometimes rarely see a scourge lance.. can't comment how well they preform. For what role? Fury is better for MR/LR.. Lance is a brawler. Fury Ember/Exodus (Ancile) would easily beat any Lancelot setup... and you're also correct that the Fury is a better MR/LR as well. You keep bringing up irrelevant 1vs1 matchups. A Plasma Galahad will beat all usual Lancelot setups (Taran/Scourge Ancilots and Thunder/Orkan), still, no one in their right mind will claim that the Galahad is better than the Lancelot. And as for your claim, Exodus isn't part of the game yet so we have no clue how it performs. And a matchup Ember/Orkan Lance or Exodus/Orkan Lance vs. your Ember/Exodus/Ancile Fury should be rather interesting and come down to pilot skill. |
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Post by rogatking on May 22, 2018 9:05:34 GMT -5
Fury Ember/Exodus (Ancile) would easily beat any Lancelot setup... and you're also correct that the Fury is a better MR/LR as well. Hi Legend, I don't have the Ember/Exodus weapons so I can't comment on how well the Fury does as a brawler; however I'm hesitant to believe the Fury can beat the Lancelot as a brawler overall. Maybe in some situations, like a beacon rush, and you drop the Fury in the middle of the action. It does have more firepower so it could do more DPS, yes. But survivability and mobility are worth taking into consideration. I think the corner-shoot ability of the Lance also adds to its durability and effectiveness. I only say this because the Lancelot is currently the best bot in my lineup and I don't know if I could see a Fury build replacing it. Example: I often select my Tarancilot as first-bot out in Domination. The plan is to rush to center beacon ASAP, take and hold it. I expect both blue and red Kumihos to get there first, so Tarancilot can take-out any red first comers. If I was to rely on the Fury to fill this role, I think the Fury would be too slow. Anyways, your Fury build sounds interesting so I'm wondering if you've actually used it with success or just speculating. God help you with that tactic when u run into a 4 orkan spectre instead of the kumiho u were expecting to see lol |
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Post by snk on May 22, 2018 9:20:31 GMT -5
whit my bots what should I buy a lance or fury? Get PDB Griffin and DB Griffin (upgrade Taran and Orkan to level 12) instead, then get a Kuminho, Heachi, Bulgasari, Inquisitor or Spectre. Transfer your weapons = wins. Fury is very good if you have 3 Dragoon, 3 Flux or 3 Tempest. Otherwise, forget it. Galahad isn’t that good now, Ancilelot is good until you meet MKII Orkan, they melt you like no Ancile (4-5 Seconds). Orkan, Taran, Scourge, Shocktrain, Ember, Dragoon cover over 90% of iOS Champions League weapons. The only none components weapons are Orkan and Taran I transferred my 2 level 12 Orkans from my Rogatka to Heachi, 2 level 12 Taran from PDB Griffin to Inquisitor, 2 Level 12 Orkans from DB Griffin to Spectre, 2 Level 12 Taran from Ancilelot to Bulgasari (even though I prefer Scourge, but my 3 Scourge all Level 1). What do you think if I don’t have any of these “UPGRADED” weapons? |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on May 22, 2018 9:27:30 GMT -5
Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. That was my initial thought as well. Then i started building a shotgun ‘had for some new perspective and putting me storm upgrade im doing for spectre to good use. Thinking was: with all the plasma n ST could this shield bot be viable? Turns out it is... but One has to be very aware of the rockets on the field. It can rel easily go through shielded bots like ancilot (sitting duck) n more importantly bulga (current record 3 in a row, (ST/Scourge) in a mix master expert battle). Its profile is right height to manually shoot inqui in stealth. imperius Wrt which bot tp buy: Ancilot is easier to play, has more room for error due to double shield, but i find playing the shothad more rewarding as u rly need to ‘plan’ ur actions + it is so much more mobile (using speed n cover manage to escape from certain death orkan trap regularly)I replaced my lancelot w lvl7 spectre orks recently, keeping the shothad. Note: im not a good pilot and although i aim for the highest dmg i can do, fun factor counts as well. For me the shothad helps on both aspects. I think id wait to see what modules do before buying a gold bot, unless gold is no issue. Than look at ur playstyle to choose one. For completeness sake my hangar: Shotty-Had is fun! I don't talk about it much though, as it doesn't fit the meta guidelines... and people start to throw rotten tomatoes at you if you try and go against the flow. For your own safety... maybe just shhhhhh.
Or get one of these:
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Post by lepetomane on May 22, 2018 10:12:39 GMT -5
That was my initial thought as well. Then i started building a shotgun ‘had for some new perspective and putting me storm upgrade im doing for spectre to good use. Thinking was: with all the plasma n ST could this shield bot be viable? Turns out it is... but One has to be very aware of the rockets on the field. It can rel easily go through shielded bots like ancilot (sitting duck) n more importantly bulga (current record 3 in a row, (ST/Scourge) in a mix master expert battle). Its profile is right height to manually shoot inqui in stealth. imperius Wrt which bot tp buy: Ancilot is easier to play, has more room for error due to double shield, but i find playing the shothad more rewarding as u rly need to ‘plan’ ur actions + it is so much more mobile (using speed n cover manage to escape from certain death orkan trap regularly)I replaced my lancelot w lvl7 spectre orks recently, keeping the shothad. Note: im not a good pilot and although i aim for the highest dmg i can do, fun factor counts as well. For me the shothad helps on both aspects. I think id wait to see what modules do before buying a gold bot, unless gold is no issue. Than look at ur playstyle to choose one. For completeness sake my hangar: Shotty-Had is fun! I don't talk about it much though, as it doesn't fit the meta guidelines... and people start to throw rotten tomatoes at you if you try and go against the flow. For your own safety... maybe just shhhhhh.
Or get one of these:
“... and people start to throw rotten tomatoes at you if you try and go against the flow” fresh tomatoes is soooo midieval... organic, bug infested n even rotten is the new authentic fresh!!!  Btw isnt that the ad for the new shield from the test server in the vid?! ? |
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Post by MurXdoC on May 22, 2018 13:45:23 GMT -5
Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. Since Galahad is useless i'd go for the lance. That was my initial thought as well. Then i started building a shotgun ‘had for some new perspective and putting me storm upgrade im doing for spectre to good use. Thinking was: with all the plasma n ST could this shield bot be viable? Turns out it is... but One has to be very aware of the rockets on the field. It can rel easily go through shielded bots like ancilot (sitting duck) n more importantly bulga (current record 3 in a row, (ST/Scourge) in a mix master expert battle). Its profile is right height to manually shoot inqui in stealth. imperius Wrt which bot tp buy: Ancilot is easier to play, has more room for error due to double shield, but i find playing the shothad more rewarding as u rly need to ‘plan’ ur actions + it is so much more mobile (using speed n cover manage to escape from certain death orkan trap regularly)I replaced my lancelot w lvl7 spectre orks recently, keeping the shothad. Note: im not a good pilot and although i aim for the highest dmg i can do, fun factor counts as well. For me the shothad helps on both aspects. I think id wait to see what modules do before buying a gold bot, unless gold is no issue. Than look at ur playstyle to choose one. For completeness sake my hangar: Looks like a fun build indeed...I don't know how and why i always find it much more satisfying to kill with shotguns...especially the stalker gust... |
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