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Post by windcaster on May 12, 2018 13:01:27 GMT -5
Has anyone tried this on test server? I don't play.
Im wondering how they pair up on a stalker or pursuer, given you have up to 600 meters range (although with diminished damage)
Seems like it might be a good all around weapon, letting you do some damage at MR but big damage boost if you stealth and go in for the kill.
Thoughts?
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 12, 2018 13:19:20 GMT -5
 They’re great. Acquire, upgrade, and use as quickly as possible. The following will be good: - Spark Stalker - Spark Pursuer - Scourge Spark Gareth/Galahad - Scourge Spark Griffin/Raven - Dragoon/Redeemer/Ember Spark Strider - “ “ “ Mercury |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 13:24:43 GMT -5
I don't think sparks will be that great on light bots. Squishy bots need heavy burst to be effective, as damn near everything will kill them in half a salvo. Kiting with faster bots is easier, yes, but the speed increase isn't worth the firepower decrease at those ranges. Unless you're specifically flanking and ducking out, oppurtunist style, from 500ish meters, you'll likely be better off with burst like Rockets or shotguns.
The biggest boon to fast bots is being able to reposition before the enemy A: Knows what's going on, ot B: Can effectively counterattack. DoT weapons have a hard time fitting into that framework.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on May 12, 2018 13:29:59 GMT -5
I don't think sparks will be that great on light bots. Squishy bots need heavy burst to be effective, as damn near everything will kill them in half a salvo. Kiting with faster bots is easier, yes, but the speed increase isn't worth the firepower decrease at those ranges. Unless you're specifically flanking and ducking out, oppurtunist style, from 500ish meters, you'll likely be better off with burst like Rockets or shotguns. The biggest boon to fast bots is being able to reposition before the enemy A: Knows what's going on, ot B: Can effectively counterattack. DoT weapons have a hard time fitting into that framework. They were impressive and effective on TS. I will report results from live server once the update hits. |
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Post by endyu on May 15, 2018 18:46:41 GMT -5
Pursuer better with Gusts or Spark?
Has anyone played both on TS?
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Post by dobby on May 15, 2018 22:01:33 GMT -5
Pursuer better with Gusts or Spark? Has anyone played both on TS? Gust should have significantly higher burst damage until clip runs low and can hit stealthed bots fairly effectively, plus locks instantly. Spark will have higher sustained damage and obviously has the range advantage but if you lose target lock due to quick enemy movements or stealth you could end up destroyed quickly without having done much. Personally I’d pick Gust Pursuer, but will have to see how Sparks are in their final form on live-server. |
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Post by windcaster on May 16, 2018 1:22:35 GMT -5
Im currently leveling a pair of Gusts 5/6 on my lv9 stalker in D3, Im starting to see the potental, Although im less impressed with it's ability to take down a ancile.
Up close point blank it's doing decent damage Im sure will only get better, but even at 100m it's less than impressive.. you really need to be right on top of the target which is perfectly doable on most bots with a stalker/pursuer
However.. Even if the Spark has a little less over all damage I might switch to them because the ability to go thru an ancile, it's range, and it's damage boost up close will probably offer me more flexibility than the gusts where as said you need to use point blank.
Sometimes stealth or no it's just not easy to get close to your target.
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Post by hjn on May 16, 2018 1:40:31 GMT -5
I don't think sparks will be that great on light bots. Squishy bots need heavy burst to be effective, as damn near everything will kill them in half a salvo. Kiting with faster bots is easier, yes, but the speed increase isn't worth the firepower decrease at those ranges. Unless you're specifically flanking and ducking out, oppurtunist style, from 500ish meters, you'll likely be better off with burst like Rockets or shotguns. The biggest boon to fast bots is being able to reposition before the enemy A: Knows what's going on, ot B: Can effectively counterattack. DoT weapons have a hard time fitting into that framework. They were impressive and effective on TS. I will report results from live server once the update hits. I had the same feeling, you circle (takes skills while maintaining lock) and move to engage from flank or rear. The only downside will be the €$£ tag |
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Post by windcaster on May 16, 2018 1:48:43 GMT -5
I don't think maintaining lock will be a problem.. If you was to drive the spark to point blank range the target's lock window becomes huge, taking up most of the screen.. dashes could be a problem as they try to move around but most other bots are to slow to really escape.
What would be a problem is other stealth bots, jump bots, hovers
Stealth bots out right will break your lock and your damage output.
as for the hover/jump bots, I find it difficult to target bots up close that jump.. seems like there is a upper limit as to how high the camera will tilt up, even a momentary break in lock could be enough to completely reset it unless there is other reds around.. direct red-red targeting does not require relock.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on May 16, 2018 2:56:58 GMT -5
I don't think maintaining lock will be a problem.. If you was to drive the spark to point blank range the target's lock window becomes huge, taking up most of the screen.. dashes could be a problem as they try to move around but most other bots are to slow to really escape. What would be a problem is other stealth bots, jump bots, hovers Stealth bots out right will break your lock and your damage output. as for the hover/jump bots, I find it difficult to target bots up close that jump.. seems like there is a upper limit as to how high the camera will tilt up, even a momentary break in lock could be enough to completely reset it unless there is other reds around.. direct red-red targeting does not require relock. Hot tips on how scourge works that probably apply to spark. Keep another red in view, when your target stealths you will automatically lock the second red, once stealth drops, you can instantly switch back. You still hit if you have targeted a red BEHIND your target and your fire is hitting a stealthed target |
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Post by getdead151 on May 23, 2018 19:58:47 GMT -5
I think I'll be trying Ancile/Scourge/Spark Golem
That'll pass the time till I get 2 Sparks for a 2x Spark/Scourge Griff...
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Post by windcaster on May 23, 2018 20:55:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a fun build.
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Post by northempire on May 23, 2018 21:33:02 GMT -5
The spark is the current content of the Gold chest in the BM and probably the SC.
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Post by Joopiter on May 23, 2018 22:09:46 GMT -5
I'm liking the sound of a Galahad build!
Based on test server data and Scourge information it looks like the spark would be 67% of the scourges damage. So a Gala head with one Scourge and two Sparks wood have some decent Firepower and a shield to hide behind.
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Post by getdead151 on May 24, 2018 1:32:37 GMT -5
I'm liking the sound of a Galahad build! Based on test server data and Scourge information it looks like the spark would be 67% of the scourges damage. So a Gala head with one Scourge and two Sparks wood have some decent Firepower and a shield to hide behind. Ohhhh, forgot about Galahad. Now I won't forget about it, I thank you and Scourgahad thanks you |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on May 24, 2018 2:24:18 GMT -5
Has anyone tried this on test server? I don't play. Im wondering how they pair up on a stalker or pursuer, given you have up to 600 meters range (although with diminished damage) Seems like it might be a good all around weapon, letting you do some damage at MR but big damage boost if you stealth and go in for the kill. Thoughts? Well lets see what I could get out of the last SC right before the update is going to turn the new day. I have played alot today and finally got to the SC a little after Mid-Night. I spin and low-and-behold I get:  Wow, really - 5k components for a light weapon. I dont have any bots that use a light weapon and I never even heard of the spark. So I go the War Robots site to look at 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 this thing does. The F'n info page just lists it as a light weapon...... there is no detail on damage, leveling, etc..... The page just says a light weapon with med-range 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 is that. To verify I looked at page for Scourge and the info is present. This is more ridiculousness...... Pix F's up the release today with upgrade cost/time on everything. Now you can win components that dont even have written details describing what the do, damage, fire rate, level times/cost etc..... Pix are idiots I am so PISSED right now. SoCal |
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Post by hi5 on May 30, 2018 12:17:00 GMT -5
They’re great. Acquire, upgrade, and use as quickly as possible. The following will be good: - Spark Stalker - Spark Pursuer - Scourge Spark Gareth/Galahad - Scourge Spark Griffin/Raven - Dragoon/Redeemer/Ember Spark Strider - “ “ “ Mercury Oh my, you are not kidding. Played FFA today against Adriannnn who had and MK2 SPark pursuer and it just killed EVERYTHING. He had some other new toys but they didn’t get much run, because why would you when you can use this beast?  |
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Post by Koalabear on May 30, 2018 12:53:41 GMT -5
Man, that is SO unfair...I can't even BUY the Spark for RM yet and people have it maxe Mk2!
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Post by hi5 on May 30, 2018 13:46:44 GMT -5
Man, that is SO unfair...I can't even BUY the Spark for RM yet and people have it maxe Mk2! I’m guessing it’s a demo account from Pix becaus it has so few wins and only one hangar. |
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Post by [ツ] Beldanius on May 30, 2018 13:46:57 GMT -5
Man, that is SO unfair...I can't even BUY the Spark for RM yet and people have it maxe Mk2! That's Adrian's Battle Rec account given to him and a few other youtubers by Pixonic. So people don't have 3 of them mk2'd yet, just 10-20 youtubers. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on May 31, 2018 0:24:31 GMT -5
I would suggest before anyone spends anything to acquire the 'spark', look at the upgrade cost/time. The spark is set with the 'new economy' schedule, a brief listing for L11 - 12:
Level Time Cost Ag
11 8 days 35Million
12 9 days 45Million
Total 46 days 135Million
I dont know about you, but I will not invest that much time or Ag..... Ridiculous
SoCal
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Post by Koalabear on May 31, 2018 6:42:52 GMT -5
I'm not in the habit going to level 12 on my stuff. Level 8-9 is my play level with level 10 being my ceiling for most things. I just want the Spark because it's the perfect complement to the Scourge on the Hover. Finally I can focus on flying and let all weapons do damage and I don't have to be facing or aiming at my target. As for the Exodus, I only want 1 to turn my Inky into a true DB Inky. After that, there really isn't anything else out of the new stuff that I'm particularly pining for.
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Post by herbalmilitant on May 31, 2018 7:16:32 GMT -5
I think I'll be trying Ancile/Scourge/Spark Golem That'll pass the time till I get 2 Sparks for a 2x Spark/Scourge Griff... I have a spark/scourge/Zeus Golem that is a blast to play. |
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Post by hi5 on May 31, 2018 8:49:00 GMT -5
I would suggest before anyone spends anything to acquire the 'spark', look at the upgrade cost/time. The spark is set with the 'new economy' schedule, a brief listing for L11 - 12: Level Time Cost Ag
11 8 days 35Million
12 9 days 45Million
Total 46 days 135Million
I dont know about you, but I will not invest that much time or Ag..... Ridiculous
SoCalThis is the part I have not yet gotten my head around - the new upgrade costs are unachievable. The time doesn’t matter to me because I can’t scrape together the Ag in the first place. I have not yet admitted to myself the obvious reality that I’m just not going to be able to get some things. This is the biggest downer - before I knew it would take a long time to max gear, but at least it felt achievable. It isn’t anymore. |
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on May 31, 2018 11:52:40 GMT -5
I would suggest before anyone spends anything to acquire the 'spark', look at the upgrade cost/time. The spark is set with the 'new economy' schedule, a brief listing for L11 - 12: Level Time Cost Ag
11 8 days 35Million
12 9 days 45Million
Total 46 days 135Million
I dont know about you, but I will not invest that much time or Ag..... Ridiculous
SoCal Jokes on you soon everything will be the same |
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