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Post by hughshin on Feb 12, 2017 4:37:10 GMT -5
I've got a 5-bot hanger suited for most situations at any range. Issue I've run into are Lancelot rushes with anciles.
I can usually get a third of a Lancelot's health with a griffin (orkans and pinatas), but it's not enough. And seeing how I only have one of these knifing bots with high dps, I always lose against a team with multiple ancile lances.
The ancile shield regeneration is just way too fast, and it doesn't help that there is no cool down for when it's completely depleted. It takes about a second for it to come back up.
Anyone have a good tactic towards handling these bots?
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whitecrow666
GI. Patton
Posts: 144
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Pilot name: whitecrow666
Platform: Android
Clan: 2017 war Gods
League: Gold
Favorite robot: Gareth
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Post by whitecrow666 on Feb 12, 2017 5:22:52 GMT -5
Plasma plasma plasma
It's 100% ignores the sheild
Get behind or to side of it Gareth bot is good counter
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Chaoscore
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Platform: Android
Clan: L2
Favorite robot: Carnage
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Post by Chaoscore on Feb 12, 2017 5:59:08 GMT -5
carnage can do it too
lancelot without a thunder has much lower dps point blank close, so carnage can freely dance around, while lance will miss half of plasma shots ( if it has orkans, alnost all damage will be soaked with shield. as you'll become main threat to him, he will try to face you, and if any teammates are near, he's done
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Post by hughshin on Feb 12, 2017 10:14:00 GMT -5
I like the idea of using a gareth because it's mobile, but I'm not a fan of gareth or galahad, they're just really squishy against tridents  Perhaps knifing them with a double thunder carnage could work... I guess I'm just unlucky. Usually when I try this, I lose half- 2 thirds of my health trying to kill an ancile lance  |
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Post by buzzard on Feb 12, 2017 10:32:29 GMT -5
I've got a 5-bot hanger suited for most situations at any range. Issue I've run into are Lancelot rushes with anciles. I can usually get a third of a Lancelot's health with a griffin (orkans and pinatas), but it's not enough. And seeing how I only have one of these knifing bots with high dps, I always lose against a team with multiple ancile lances. The ancile shield regeneration is just way too fast, and it doesn't help that there is no cool down for when it's completely depleted. It takes about a second for it to come back up. Anyone have a good tactic towards handling these bots? The ancile does not Regen that quickly and received a 33% regen rate reduction in the last update. A rdb griff is a good anti-ancilot. Even a db griff is a big threat if cover is used well to reload weapons. The bot I hate to see most when playing my ancilot is a plasmahad if played well and not in kamakaze mode.Generally the lance draws a crowd anyways and THAT is the best tactic. If you go one on one w an ancilot in knife fighting range you will most likely get smoked or at best limp away. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 12, 2017 11:52:36 GMT -5
Getting inside the bubble when you unload your rockets helps a lot. Tricky to pull off sometimes tho. You have to be patient and know the Lancelots outs and maneuver to cancel them. Like I said, tricky but totally doable.
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Post by moody on Feb 12, 2017 18:36:18 GMT -5
I've got a 5-bot hanger suited for most situations at any range. Issue I've run into are Lancelot rushes with anciles. I can usually get a third of a Lancelot's health with a griffin (orkans and pinatas), but it's not enough. And seeing how I only have one of these knifing bots with high dps, I always lose against a team with multiple ancile lances. The ancile shield regeneration is just way too fast, and it doesn't help that there is no cool down for when it's completely depleted. It takes about a second for it to come back up. Anyone have a good tactic towards handling these bots? The ancile does not Regen that quickly and received a 33% regen rate reduction in the last update. A rdb griff is a good anti-ancilot. Even a db griff is a big threat if cover is used well to reload weapons. The bot I hate to see most when playing my ancilot is a plasmahad if played well and not in kamakaze mode.Generally the lance draws a crowd anyways and THAT is the best tactic. If you go one on one w an ancilot in knife fighting range you will most likely get smoked or at best limp away. Agree that a plasmahad played well has a very good chance of beating an Ancille lance, more so if the lance is orkan and the Galahad can just stay out of range. But even Tarans if the galahad puts its shield up, corner shoots and keeps moving. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 19:26:14 GMT -5
A thunder orkan lancelot fares well against ancile Lancelots
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88generalblue
GI. Patton
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Platform: Android
Clan: Wik2
League: Silver
Favorite robot: Gareth w/ Taran, Aphids
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Post by 88generalblue on Feb 13, 2017 1:10:50 GMT -5
the best way to beat something that is stronger than you is to use teamwork. since lances are a #1 priority target on most people's lists, right up there with Furys and Rhinos, people seek those MFs down. if you bait him to follow you closer to your spawn, someone else is bound to notice your plight and offer help.
also keep in mind is that the user decided to opt for more defense at a loss of a LOT of firepower. in DPS, its as weak as a rog, and definitely weaker than a Fujin. so whatever you take up against it will be able to survive surprisingly well if you just keep dancing, just keep dancing..
thunders are great against ancile shields, i've had people standing +400m away completely take mine out on my Carnage with a single Thunder hit. so thunder Leo w/ Aphid/Mag, thunder carnage, can be pretty good. a plasma-had/griff/rhino does well. somebody recommended Gareth too, but missing that extra light hardpoint for damage, plus much weaker shield & HP, it wouldn't hold up. If you approach an ancile bot with a DB, unload one full clip from an orkan into it -wait until its fully unloaded- then quickly release the rest of your salvo, it should do the trick
Cheers,
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Feb 13, 2017 2:19:53 GMT -5
IMO, the typical Ancile/Taran Lancelot is only useful when squading. This is a horrible build when playing random, as this setup absolutely needs support fire to survive.
In my Plasmahad, this by far the EASIEST Lancelot build to kill --- heck, a Plasmahad and Plasma Gareth are harder to kill if I'm in my Plasmahad.
Just keep firing at the Lance, you can even be sloppy in the aim, as the Lance's Tarans will miss you quite a bit if you just move while under fire. You'll kill the Ancilot and still have your shield intact - easy 1-vs-1 kill for the Plasmahad cause my removing that Thunder the bot has no really firepower agsinst a fast moving bot.
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Post by moody on Feb 13, 2017 4:26:15 GMT -5
IMO, the typical Ancile/Taran Lancelot is only useful when squading. This is a horrible build when playing random, as this setup absolutely needs support fire to survive. In my Plasmahad, this by far the EASIEST Lancelot build to kill --- heck, a Plasmahad and Plasma Gareth are harder to kill if I'm in my Plasmahad. Just keep firing at the Lance, you can even be sloppy in the aim, as the Lance's Tarans will miss you quite a bit if you just move while under fire. You'll kill the Ancilot and still have your shield intact - easy 1-vs-1 kill for the Plasmahad cause my removing that Thunder the bot has no really firepower agsinst a fast moving bot. Just did this with a plasmahad. Would have had him myself I think, but halfway through a DB griffin finished him off. |
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Post by cypho on Feb 13, 2017 5:58:04 GMT -5
A thunder orkan lancelot fares well against ancile Lancelots I find the same - be patient with the orks, use two or three shots from the thunder to drop the ancile shield then let rip. Once the ancile's down you've got superior fire power and should come out on top. As long as you don't rush in head to head against orks, you shouldn't even take too much damage in the process - none at all of they're packing tarans. |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Feb 13, 2017 6:33:00 GMT -5
IMO, the typical Ancile/Taran Lancelot is only useful when squading. This is a horrible build when playing random, as this setup absolutely needs support fire to survive. In my Plasmahad, this by far the EASIEST Lancelot build to kill --- heck, a Plasmahad and Plasma Gareth are harder to kill if I'm in my Plasmahad. Just keep firing at the Lance, you can even be sloppy in the aim, as the Lance's Tarans will miss you quite a bit if you just move while under fire. You'll kill the Ancilot and still have your shield intact - easy 1-vs-1 kill for the Plasmahad cause my removing that Thunder the bot has no really firepower agsinst a fast moving bot. Completely agree with you, I relax when I see a Ancilot with Plasma, a bit more caution if they have Orkans and worried if they have Thunder Orkan/Taran. IDK what the big deal is about them really, their shield is literally weaker than a Gareth's and a DB can just jump in the shield and blast that MF to heaven, heck even a Carnage Thunder can sneak in and shoot that thing in the back |
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Post by buzzard on Feb 13, 2017 8:45:06 GMT -5
IMO, the typical Ancile/Taran Lancelot is only useful when squading. This is a horrible build when playing random, as this setup absolutely needs support fire to survive. In my Plasmahad, this by far the EASIEST Lancelot build to kill --- heck, a Plasmahad and Plasma Gareth are harder to kill if I'm in my Plasmahad. Just keep firing at the Lance, you can even be sloppy in the aim, as the Lance's Tarans will miss you quite a bit if you just move while under fire. You'll kill the Ancilot and still have your shield intact - easy 1-vs-1 kill for the Plasmahad cause my removing that Thunder the bot has no really firepower agsinst a fast moving bot. Completely agree with you, I relax when I see a Ancilot with Plasma, a bit more caution if they have Orkans and worried if they have Thunder Orkan/Taran. IDK what the big deal is about them really, their shield is literally weaker than a Gareth's and a DB can just jump in the shield and blast that MF to heaven, heck even a Carnage Thunder can sneak in and shoot that thing in the back That is very true. I am surprised at how few pilots do that though. I can count the number of times a red has run inside my ancile to attack on one hand. |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 13, 2017 13:21:11 GMT -5
IMO, the typical Ancile/Taran Lancelot is only useful when squading. This is a horrible build when playing random, as this setup absolutely needs support fire to survive. In my Plasmahad, this by far the EASIEST Lancelot build to kill --- heck, a Plasmahad and Plasma Gareth are harder to kill if I'm in my Plasmahad. Just keep firing at the Lance, you can even be sloppy in the aim, as the Lance's Tarans will miss you quite a bit if you just move while under fire. You'll kill the Ancilot and still have your shield intact - easy 1-vs-1 kill for the Plasmahad cause my removing that Thunder the bot has no really firepower agsinst a fast moving bot. Everything is better when your are squadding. I think a lot of Ancilot players are just over estimating the toughness of their bot and heading straight into the fray without support. I don't think they realize the Lancelot is actually awesome at firing form cover. |
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