bfhill
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Post by bfhill on Feb 11, 2017 17:25:11 GMT -5
Let's start by saying I run a 12/12 hanger. I recently spawned on canyon and chose my rhino with magnums/ okrans. Got to middle beacon then boom blew up. 5 tt furys. Next up was my Lancelot. Ancile/tarans. Pushed up right side got to first fury. 2 salvos with my taran and my lance exploded. Third bot doc tulus/tarans. Pushed right side fired tulus boom exploded. Next up my own tt fury right side again. One salvo of trident. Boom exploded. Last bot death button rhino.went to recapture middle beacon. Captured beacon but soon after boom exploded. watched the last five minutes of match. Was high damage for my team. Keep in mind all bots and weps12/12. 140765 damage. Need advice on how to deal with all them darn furys.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 17:32:17 GMT -5
This is a perfect example of how all my matches have been. If you have leveled 'obsolete weapons', I'd use them:
*KWK / Kang / Treb Gekko / Molot Natasha
*KWK / Kang / Treb Fury
*Trident Carnage
*Molot Griffin / Patton
Or you can try to avoid them as much as possible and stay out of their 600m range until you see then shoot.
And if you use those builds, your teammates will probably want to push you off the wall. I am not a 12/12 pilot, but thanks to matchmaking -_- , I played against a good amount of Trident Furies.
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Post by bfhill on Feb 11, 2017 17:40:41 GMT -5
Thanks I do have some lvl 8 molots will put them on a Griffin and see how that works
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Feb 11, 2017 17:59:30 GMT -5
Let's start by saying I run a 12/12 hanger. I recently spawned on canyon and chose my rhino with magnums/ okrans. Got to middle beacon then boom blew up. 5 tt furys. Next up was my Lancelot. Ancile/tarans. Pushed up right side got to first fury. 2 salvos with my taran and my lance exploded. Third bot doc tulus/tarans. Pushed right side fired tulus boom exploded. Next up my own tt fury right side again. One salvo of trident. Boom exploded. Last bot death button rhino.went to recapture middle beacon. Captured beacon but soon after boom exploded. watched the last five minutes of match. Was high damage for my team. Keep in mind all bots and weps12/12. 140765 damage. Need advice on how to deal with all them darn furys. Had the same game last night...like to know too...they pretty much shut the game down. They then ran a few stalkers to get the beacons then back to 5 Fury. I smell a nerf coming... The Law of Nerf and Buff: If no one uses it, thou shalt be buffed; If everyone uses it, then thy be nerfed. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 12, 2017 11:48:30 GMT -5
Thanks I do have some lvl 8 molots will put them on a Griffin and see how that works Not high enough. Just ran my griffin/molots 8/8/8/8/8 last night. Stinky. Needs to be at LEAST 10's I think, if not 11. So I put my fury back in  |
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Post by ☆ CORVUSNEX ☆ on Feb 12, 2017 11:57:30 GMT -5
5 TT Furies on an open map like Canyon is an epic PitA.
Best solution I found is to run with a good squad that includes 2 Treb Furies, and a Molot Griff helps a lot too.
Without those, or Nashorn Furies, you're toast.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Feb 12, 2017 12:27:47 GMT -5
Against that many TTs there's nothing you can do, as they will just advance together - using each other for fire support.
The only counter is mutiple 800m+ bots and that leaves you with only a few choices.
Best counters are the Tri-Molot Fujin (whose shield is immune to all except plasma), Molot Doc, Molot Griffin, and Molot Rhino. You can use a Nashorn/Molot combo on a Tasha, Lancelot, and Leo --- but those would be truly dedicated mid-range Fury counters.
Again, you can only fight multiple TT Furies with multiple Molot/Nashorn bots. The only good part is that you need just a third to half the numbers of Molot/Nashorn bots on the field as the red mid-range Furies on the field --- which is true for any setup in a fire suppression role and that a Molot is more effective fire suppression weapon that a Trident.
A bonus is that don't need high big bot levels on any of these Nashorn/Molot setups, as you are basically hanging back (as the red Furies do) and staying outside the 600m range of the mid-range Furies ----- so IMO, the Tasha and Leo make sense in that the Nashorn is very accurate at 600-800m and that the multiple Molots can keep the Furies under cover and thus you keep the fire lanes open to your bots to move and blocked to red bots (a WIN situation fir your team).
Fire suppression and fire lane control is a real role/goal ---- one that very few pilots and even less clans understand. If they did understand it, you'd see more Molot/Nashorn combos out there to take control over mid-rangers.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Feb 13, 2017 19:31:34 GMT -5
Have you tried a Trident Carnage? You need to get just within range and fire of a salvo then back pedal. The shield should absorb most if not all of the damage while yours should mostly hit the slow Fury.
Reload. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by BLYTHE on Feb 13, 2017 20:02:13 GMT -5
Let's start by saying I run a 12/12 hanger. I recently spawned on canyon and chose my rhino with magnums/ okrans. Got to middle beacon then boom blew up. 5 tt furys. Next up was my Lancelot. Ancile/tarans. Pushed up right side got to first fury. 2 salvos with my taran and my lance exploded. Third bot doc tulus/tarans. Pushed right side fired tulus boom exploded. Next up my own tt fury right side again. One salvo of trident. Boom exploded. Last bot death button rhino.went to recapture middle beacon. Captured beacon but soon after boom exploded. watched the last five minutes of match. Was high damage for my team. Keep in mind all bots and weps12/12. 140765 damage. Need advice on how to deal with all them darn furys. I'm not sure I'd blame everything on Furies. 140,000 damage isn't high for a Lvl 12 hangar and if you're meching out in 5 minutes then you're way too aggressive (which happens to be my problem too). Try recording one of your games on an open map and post is here. Maybe we can dissect your technique and see if you're doing something wrong. I play against maxed out hangars often, and yes, there are usually Furies (I have one as well). But the dynamics of the game is changing constantly so bots that were once seemingly invincible (like the rhino) needs to be handled differently now. Either that or people can choose to play only on certain maps. |
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Post by whatttupG on Feb 13, 2017 21:56:03 GMT -5
Not 12/12 here so can't exactly say how or what to do.. but also thanks to the new MM, I too have seen things explode as you describe. Usually it's in the center of yam even though you try to hide behind those walls. My guess is the trident goes straight thru that and most anything else. Maybe try to fight fire with fire, master of puppets is pulling your string... oh sorry... yeah put tridents on something and shoot back or....
I accidently found that molot Fujin causes amazing amounts of harassment and rage. A couple pewpewpew from 799m and whatever your hitting will move. You'd think they would just sit there and let the BB gun hit em but they don't. Problem is once you're found, they just walk straight at you and even though the shield is lit or blinking, your HP is draining like there is a hole in the bucket. I know the ancile doesn't work on plasma, but the Fujin ancile doesn't seem to work all that well on anything.
If it isn't a glitch or a bug, then it clearly isn't robust enough to face certain on coming builds. It seems to do well on aphids, but other stuff seems to sneak right in. The bright blue reflection of it seems to be more of a 'come kill me' beacon than anything else.
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bfhill
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Post by bfhill on Feb 14, 2017 0:48:42 GMT -5
I have to add I was running solo not with my clan. Sadly I am a very aggressive player. I been playing seems like forever. Here lately there is a uptick in tt furys. Thanks for all the info.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Feb 14, 2017 0:49:57 GMT -5
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bfhill
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Post by bfhill on Feb 14, 2017 0:55:40 GMT -5
Wow captain just watched the vid and it's like they were singing to me.lmao
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 14, 2017 0:59:10 GMT -5
You should check out ChainFire's YT channel. He's a maxed player, plays mostly knife fighting, and makes a point to hunt down TT furies.
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Post by hithere on Feb 14, 2017 5:36:03 GMT -5
Rather sad that the best way to counter camping TT Furys is to become even more of a camper
Oh, and lol, I watched ChainFires YT video titled "How to properly use a Fury Tridents". He was camping under a bridge almost the whole game, extremely boring, didn't do much at all to help his team-mates, and lost the game.
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Post by buford on Feb 14, 2017 16:41:41 GMT -5
Rather sad that the best way to counter camping TT Furys is to become even more of a camper Oh, and lol, I watched ChainFires YT video titled "How to properly use a Fury Tridents". He was camping under a bridge almost the whole game, extremely boring, didn't do much at all to help his team-mates, and lost the game. Yes. Couldn't agree more. Camping to kill campers. Uggh. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Feb 14, 2017 16:46:31 GMT -5
Best way I can think of to take down these giant wastes of time is to team up. Coordinate getting closer then go all psycho ape on the 「illegitimate child」. They hate Hydras too..
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