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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 3:19:14 GMT -5
Short story I was a seal clubber, boo whoo Yes I know but it was the best way to farm. New Mm came out and I just couldn't adjust so got my self some bots. Hence my levels are low I really love my Lancelot but maybe three is too much? I have two midrange and those won't change. TT fury is too good, and butch zeus/treb is an awesome combo. My Lancelots does well, I learned how to be patient and when to engage.. My concern is if I were to take out one Lancelot, what should I replace it with? I do lack anti sniper, beacon runners, other strategic bots. I was wondering if a spiral/hydra griff or a 4x hydra doc is worth replacing a Lancelot for more damage or better variety hangar. What are your guys opinions? Please do not discuss about how much gold I must have spent, let's just say I'm that dedicated.
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Post by zeus on Feb 9, 2017 4:12:23 GMT -5
In my limited perspective, I only have 1 mid range. Thinking of switching to two, but they just won't do well in close maps.
So I would say that you shouldn't switch out a lancelot for another mid range bot. If you need a runner, Galahad runs at 50km and has a shield. Corner shooting makes him excellent at harassing and keeping positions. I just played a game where I took an undefended side beacon and kept it from a db griffin, then a plasma griffin joined in, and then another did. 3 v 1 on a corner shooting beast, the stand off would have been shorter if db griffin jumped right at me instead of trying to get me at the corner. I would have ran, lol. Instead the plasma griffin jumped in, I backed off shooting the plasma griffin while anticipating a braver db griffin and game ended on a win. There was a red hydra griffin above me too, sad for the reds.
A db griffin is my other recommendation, it's the best ambush bot around. There are many maps with walls and obstacles. It feels so good to jump and get an unsuspecting Galahad or Lancelot which is otherwise occupied with another blue.
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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 4:38:55 GMT -5
I do have two level six Galahad and yes they are very solid. I actually have five Galahads, won three from lunar event.
Two midrangers is out of the norm, it depends on playstyle and how you use it on close maps. On close maps, I run them as support bot role, usually in midst of battle and dies fairly quick but not going down without a fight. It's more preference.
But let's hypothetically if I did choose a Galahad to add to my hangar, which midrange bot should I take down.
TT Fury pays for itself, depending on teammate support and situation of course. Usable on close maps.
Butch zeus and treb combo is tearing apart any open maps, not too good in close maps.
Im gonna make a screenshot for those think no one has five Galahad.. Won two on superchest and one on 100 coins
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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 4:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by frunobulax on Feb 9, 2017 7:44:12 GMT -5
My advice: Throw more money at Pix, so that everybody here will realize what a good player you are.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 9, 2017 9:55:46 GMT -5
spiral/hydra griff or a 4x hydra doc 2 hydras and 2 spirals, or 4 hydras? Slow or fast? If you try this route, I would go 4x hydra doc all day long. It seems like a classic min-max setup... you've got enough speed to stay behind cover and collect damage constantly. There will always be someone you can hit.
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Post by buzzard on Feb 9, 2017 10:08:00 GMT -5
If I were you, I would sub the gal for one of your ork thunder lances. Make the ancilot orkan so you can deal with shield bots, put a taran on the gal with a couple mags for a plasmahad. They are a great bot. Not just a support bot either. You can go toe-to-toe with anything without rockets (and even take those if there is cover around). Thunders can do some damage but you can take them if you stay beyond 200M. You need some speed in your line up.
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Feb 9, 2017 11:19:05 GMT -5
With your current hangar, the addition of a Hydra Doc would probably not be good. Though the Doc is mobile, with Hydras it still has to hang back since the 48K damage it deals simply isn't high enough to stop even a half dead L12 heavy or a L12 Galahad --- so the speed doesn't really factor in that much.
Coupled with the Trident Fury, you'd have 2 bits that need to hangs back and I don't think that's the direction you wanted.
If I had to replace one Fury, I put in its place a Tul/Tul Doc (or Orkan/Tul Doc). The Doc became a serious giant killer when its HP and speed was buffed, as even a direct DB salvo won't kill it outright (not that you'd allow this to occur considering the Doc's speed). Most pilots have not realized how flexible and deadly a Tul Doc is, as they still consider it a fragile bot (which was widely the opinion when it first was introduced in test). While you might think the Tul Doc is over doing your mid-range due to your TT Fury, the Tul Doc is not strictly a mid-range support bot. At 160K (L12) every 22 or so seconds within 500m (slightly longer if you add splash radius), the Tul Doc covers the roles of close support bot and power runner also --- which gives it similar utility to a Plasma Gal.
Since you will be keeping 2 Lancelots, the Tul Doc is the choice that will add speed and versatility to your hangar. The choice of the Galahad is okay, but IMO the Tul Doc has more situational utility.
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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 12:03:04 GMT -5
With your current hangar, the addition of a Hydra Doc would probably not be good. Though the Doc is mobile, with Hydras it still has to hang back since the 48K damage it deals simply isn't high enough to stop even a half dead L12 heavy or a L12 Galahad --- so the speed doesn't really factor in that much. Coupled with the Trident Fury, you'd have 2 bits that need to hangs back and I don't think that's the direction you wanted. If I had to replace one Fury, I put in its place a Tul/Tul Doc (or Orkan/Tul Doc). The Doc became a serious giant killer when its HP and speed was buffed, as even a direct DB salvo won't kill it outright (not that you'd allow this to occur considering the Doc's speed). Most pilots have not realized how flexible and deadly a Tul Doc is, as they still consider it a fragile bot (which was widely the opinion when it first was introduced in test). While you might think the Tul Doc is over doing your mid-range due to your TT Fury, the Tul Doc is not strictly a mid-range support bot. At 160K (L12) every 22 or so seconds within 500m (slightly longer if you add splash radius), the Tul Doc covers the roles of close support bot and power runner also --- which gives it similar utility to a Plasma Gal. Since you will be keeping 2 Lancelots, the Tul Doc is the choice that will add speed and versatility to your hangar. The choice of the Galahad is okay, but IMO the Tul Doc has more situational utility. Thank you this has been very helpful, I'll be replacing a Lancelot with a tul doc, and also buzzard advise I'll be taking those tarans down and put in orkans. I'll low priority level the extra Lancelot and one Galahad on the side to be able to switch out in the future. Thanks everyone
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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 13:22:53 GMT -5
So far it's been okay, got a doc and lvled some tulumbas. The playstyle is different but it really is versatile. Not doing DB style but a hit and run, beacon runner. It survives pretty well compared to a Jesse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:46:36 GMT -5
I think you need to have another brawler and make that Doc and Fury interchangable.
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Post by LOLDONGS on Feb 9, 2017 22:06:13 GMT -5
Good set up but I notice your current hangar is a little bit too slow.
I cannot tell you what to do with your hangar, it is important to play with what you enjoy the most (or win the most)
I advise you to try to have only one long range bot, you should choose between either your Butch or Fury. (I personally would go with 4x treb Butch for maximum burst damage)
I also do have a doc but I find it to be quite lacking in the survivability department, so take care with the doc, don't expect him to survive too long after making several volleys. Firepower is insane on doc, regardless.
I find this type of hangar to work the best for me.
- Knifer - ie: Lancelot, Rhino, carnage, galahad
- Knifer - same as above
- Knifer - same as above
- Medium ranger - ie: Tulu Doc, RDB griffin
- Long ranger - ie: Fury, Butch, etc
my $0.02
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Post by thisfob on Feb 9, 2017 23:43:35 GMT -5
Good set up but I notice your current hangar is a little bit too slow.
I cannot tell you what to do with your hangar, it is important to play with what you enjoy the most (or win the most)
I advise you to try to have only one long range bot, you should choose between either your Butch or Fury. (I personally would go with 4x treb Butch for maximum burst damage)
I also do have a doc but I find it to be quite lacking in the survivability department, so take care with the doc, don't expect him to survive too long after making several volleys. Firepower is insane on doc, regardless.
I find this type of hangar to work the best for me.
- Knifer - ie: Lancelot, Rhino, carnage, galahad
- Knifer - same as above
- Knifer - same as above
- Medium ranger - ie: Tulu Doc, RDB griffin
- Long ranger - ie: Fury, Butch, etc
my $0.02 I appreciate the feedback, and also have been wondering about only using fury or butch and not both. Close maps like dead city or power plant its a nightmare for me to play with two slow midrange, open fields It's definitely fun. I'm leaning towards Lancelot Lancelot Lancelot Doc Fury. While I favor butch on open maps, trident Fury has been a clutch bot in every game. Definitely going to level eight bots, since I do interchange a lot when bored or when about to squad longterm
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Post by bfhill on Feb 10, 2017 0:03:51 GMT -5
I love my doc. Won him on a chest lvl 12 tulus combined with lvl 12 okrans mid support and brawler. Would add more of him if we're available.
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Post by petevb on Feb 10, 2017 3:22:44 GMT -5
I appreciate the feedback, and also have been wondering about only using fury or butch and not both. Close maps like dead city or power plant its a nightmare for me to play with two slow midrange, open fields It's definitely fun. I'm leaning towards Lancelot Lancelot Lancelot Doc Fury. While I favor butch on open maps, trident Fury has been a clutch bot in every game. Definitely going to level eight bots, since I do interchange a lot when bored or when about to squad longterm Getting closer, but still too slow to play all maps imho, especially with the Lance at L6. Typically I'll run one, maximum 2 Lance to insure I can get every bot into action. I prefer one, and will usually run a DB Rhino or aphid/ Ork Griffin in its place as a brawler. That gives you: TT Fury / Lance / DB Rhino (or Griffin). For the last two spots I go with speed- one plasma Galahad then either a second of the same or a Doc (usually Tulumbas). However 1 range bot is generally the right number. The Lance is slow, so the more you run the more speed you need in your hanger to counterbalance. I'd only run three if I had two other fast bots to make up for them- Tulu doc and plasma Galahad, for instance. $.02
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