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Post by 2die on Apr 3, 2018 23:55:18 GMT -5
I've seen videos comparing weapons before but this would be a interesting comparison to me to see.
I was watching a video that said the scourge is the new punisher and watching videos I know 3 or 4 punishers on a haechi or griff shred through energy and physical shields pretty quickly.
What I'd like to see is differnt bots at the same time vs eachother one with scourge and the other with punishers, at differnt distances and probably have them both on lances with anciles, then on haechi etc say starting at 500m and then 100 closesr each round.
If anyone has the ability to do this I think it would be very interesting to a lot of people.
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Post by maverick on Apr 4, 2018 3:32:19 GMT -5
What platform are you on?
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Post by 2die on Apr 4, 2018 5:53:05 GMT -5
What platform are you on? Android |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 4, 2018 7:38:23 GMT -5
Aye, they are comparable in damage characteristics... but I'd like to know just how much they compare. I'd bet that Punishers would take the longer range crown (350m to 500m) and the Scourges the sub 200m crown... but that's just a guess.
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 4, 2018 8:04:42 GMT -5
Wasn't there just recently a video showing Tarans vs Scourges? Sorry, I forget who posted it. Apparently Adrainnn helped with that. That was an awesome video. Just remember that videos like that won't reflect your actual battle experiences. If brawling out in the open with fast bots, I'd put my money down on the Scourge bot. For example, take Punisher T Kumi, Taran Kumi and Scourge Kumi. If pilot skill were all equal, I would put my money on the Scourge, then Taran, then Punisher. Scourges because the Kumi can make full use of the auto lock feature and can dash around and run around while maintaining a constant stream of damage. It can even dance out of range of the other builds and still do damage. Taran next because even if a few shots miss (not counting the Taran bug of course), the shots that DO land do a ton of damage. Punishers last because they really only ramp up damage after a few seconds of firing, and in a swirling knife fight/brawl, you may have to take your thumb off the fire button to dash, and that could start the 3 second count all over again.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 4, 2018 8:21:10 GMT -5
Wasn't there just recently a video showing Tarans vs Scourges? Sorry, I forget who posted it. Apparently Adrainnn helped with that. That was an awesome video. Just remember that videos like that won't reflect your actual battle experiences. If brawling out in the open with fast bots, I'd put my money down on the Scourge bot. For example, take Punisher T Kumi, Taran Kumi and Scourge Kumi. If pilot skill were all equal, I would put my money on the Scourge, then Taran, then Punisher. Scourges because the Kumi can make full use of the auto lock feature and can dash around and run around while maintaining a constant stream of damage. It can even dance out of range of the other builds and still do damage. Taran next because even if a few shots miss (not counting the Taran bug of course), the shots that DO land do a ton of damage. Punishers last because they really only ramp up damage after a few seconds of firing, and in a swirling knife fight/brawl, you may have to take your thumb off the fire button to dash, and that could start the 3 second count all over again. Prolly so, especially used in twos like a Kumi carries. But once you get to Haechi and Sphincter... Puns are more versatile. Scourges come close... but my Android account still doesn't have any component bots and I roll out in a Pun Griff a lot on that acct. It continually surprises me how well it tears down other bots'/pilots' security. Both the actual shields (including Anciles) and their mental security. They tend to dash, jump, or retreat once my babies spin up to full Spray and Pray. If they charge me, I have gotten good at jumping, leaving the spray of lead on them as I do, and it kills bots pretty damned quickly... and efficiently. On a Kumi, though, you are absolutely right, Scourges are what I put on the one I have in my other, much luckier, account. I am sold on that build and am leaving two Scourges on it as long as it is in my hangar. IMO, YMMV |
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Post by 2die on Apr 4, 2018 8:22:03 GMT -5
This isn't the one I had seen before but it's interesting.
Scourge Vs Taran
I think this is the one I saw that was really fun to see
Scourge Vs Shocktrain
I know it doesn't indicate game play as usually a shocktrain user hides and pops out etc but I still like the comparison.
I think scourge vs punisher would be a good test though, both do more damage the closer you get. Even if the scourge wins it will be interesting to see by how much.
The advantage the punisher would have thought is no lock on time and not being able to brake the lock on by dashing past it if they meet in a brawling situation.
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Post by 2die on Apr 4, 2018 8:34:24 GMT -5
I messaged anakin who made that 2nd video a request for punisher vs scourge just now on Facebook. Maybe if he's able to do so that would be cool to watch.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 4, 2018 9:38:16 GMT -5
This isn't the one I had seen before but it's interesting. Scourge Vs Taran I think this is the one I saw that was really fun to see Scourge Vs Shocktrain I know it doesn't indicate game play as usually a shocktrain user hides and pops out etc but I still like the comparison. I think scourge vs punisher would be a good test though, both do more damage the closer you get. Even if the scourge wins it will be interesting to see by how much. The advantage the punisher would have thought is no lock on time and not being able to brake the lock on by dashing past it if they meet in a brawling situation. Thoughts: Also it has the 2x damage to physical shields. And even though Anciles stop it, not for long enough to warrant looking for another target if you have a punisher bot and encounter an Ancile bot. I LOVE popping bubbles in my Punisher (-T) builds. Scourges go through Anciles, no doubt, but Physical shields are barriers. So, in general, that's why I say the Pun-Ts are more versatile... especially in groups of 3 or more. Now, I am NOT saying they are better than Scourge, as a Bulga Scourge is an absolute joy to play and a deadly beast to encounter. Just able to be used in more situations with good effect. But like you said, it would be very cool to see how they compare. |
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Post by 2die on Apr 4, 2018 12:15:00 GMT -5
I just saw this orkan vs punisher video, it's on fujin but punisher wins apart from at point blank (inside the sheilds).
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Post by endyu on Apr 4, 2018 14:34:20 GMT -5
I just saw this orkan vs punisher video, it's on fujin but punisher wins apart from at point blank (inside the sheilds). That's a pretty specific test. Punishers do 2x damage to anciles and the Fujin has the strongest ancile in the game. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 4, 2018 14:46:17 GMT -5
I just saw this orkan vs punisher video, it's on fujin but punisher wins apart from at point blank (inside the sheilds). That's a pretty specific test. Punishers do 2x damage to anciles and the Fujin has the strongest ancile in the game. Are you sure that they do the 2x damage to Anciles? I have been under the impression, for a long time, that it is just Physical shields that they do dbl damage against... They are extremely good at popping anciles but I was under the impression that that was because they had the ability to put so much lead into it with their insane RoF that it just can't hold up. If you think it's to Anciles too, ya got a source? I would want to confirm that with a direct statement/article/release from Pix. Everything I have seen just mentioned or inferred Physical shields. |
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Post by endyu on Apr 4, 2018 14:54:11 GMT -5
That's a pretty specific test. Punishers do 2x damage to anciles and the Fujin has the strongest ancile in the game. Are you sure that they do the 2x damage to Anciles? I have been under the impression, for a long time, that it is just Physical shields that they do dbl damage against... They are extremely good at popping anciles but I was under the impression that that was because they had the ability to put so much lead into it with their insane RoF that it just can't hold up. If you think it's to Anciles too, ya got a source? I would want to confirm that with a direct statement/article/release from Pix. Everything I have seen just mentioned or inferred Physical shields. My bad! It is only physical shields that it does double damage to. It's just the ancile bubble is so large that the bullet spread doesn't matter so it soaks up damage much faster. You're right, sorry about the confusion |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 4, 2018 15:00:07 GMT -5
Are you sure that they do the 2x damage to Anciles? I have been under the impression, for a long time, that it is just Physical shields that they do dbl damage against... They are extremely good at popping anciles but I was under the impression that that was because they had the ability to put so much lead into it with their insane RoF that it just can't hold up. If you think it's to Anciles too, ya got a source? I would want to confirm that with a direct statement/article/release from Pix. Everything I have seen just mentioned or inferred Physical shields. My bad! It is only physical shields that it does double damage to. It's just the ancile bubble is so large that the bullet spread doesn't matter so it soaks up damage much faster. You're right, sorry about the confusion No worries! Just wanted to make sure I wasn't running with wrong info... all good. And yup, the Ancile's size negates the disadvantages of any bullet spread. |
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Post by moody on Apr 5, 2018 7:11:33 GMT -5
I have done similar tests between punishers, magnums and pinatas. unfortunately I have no scourges (yet).
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