karljackson
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Platform: Android
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Post by karljackson on Feb 6, 2017 7:19:14 GMT -5
Dear Pixonic developers,
Stop weakening premium bots. My Lancelots and Galahads are almost inferior now. I can understand the Gepard, but it's ridiculous that Gareth shield is disproportionately tougher than Galahad and Lancelot shields now. Natasha has same speed and damage as Fury, etc.
I've spent a lot of time and some real money getting premium bots only to have them made worthless by the developers. If you want all bots to be equal, don't offer premium bots. Also, tell us about bot and weapon changes. Like some bots now get damage from missiles through shields, aphids have splash damage, etc. Give us a chance to adjust accordingly, instead of getting loss after loss for using premium bots.
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bearre
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Pilot name: Bearre
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Post by bearre on Feb 6, 2017 9:07:37 GMT -5
Welcome to F2P games. Saddly a LOT of games that sell premium items in their shop,vice just speed ups and cosmetics encounter this issue.
To get people to pay for premium gear it has to be better than what is available for free. But then you run into balance issues and a pay to win scenario. Thus after sales hit their peak you rebalance the game by buffing other gear and nerfing the new stuff; repeat as necessary.
You really need to accept that this could happen when deciding what and when to purchase items not only in War Robots but in games in General.
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karljackson
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Platform: Android
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Post by karljackson on Feb 6, 2017 10:19:24 GMT -5
Welcome to F2P games. Saddly a LOT of games that sell premium items in their shop,vice just speed ups and cosmetics encounter this issue. To get people to pay for premium gear it has to be better than what is available for free. But then you run into balance issues and a pay to win scenario. Thus after sales hit their peak you rebalance the game by buffing other gear and nerfing the new stuff; repeat as necessary. You really need to accept that this could happen when deciding what and when to purchase items not only in War Robots but in games in General. Very true. I guess I got used to the consistency of the previous ownership. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 11:16:14 GMT -5
Britbots and wsp bots are no longer penalized in the new MM, the ninja tweaks(as well as the "consistency" changes) are likely Pix's way of addressing this.
They're only 'penalty' is that they'll boost your performance into harder competition. With the current system, you aren't immediately chucked into competition 2 levels of play higher than before you put them into your hangar. The tradeoff is Pix making them easier to deal with number wise.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 6, 2017 14:29:25 GMT -5
I've got to admit that the difference between Natasha and Fury is so small that it convinced me not to buy a Fury. Balancing is a challenge but I think the Natasha buff was more than it needed... maybe give it 5% fewer hitpoints or make the Fury rotate faster - anything at all to differentiate what are otherwise identical robots (considering 2 light hardpoints as essentially 1 heavy) with very different prices.
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Post by boanerges on Feb 6, 2017 17:43:15 GMT -5
Have to agree with the general consensus,... They have 'rebalanced' the brit-bots into inferiority. So the premium bots (right now) are Griffin's & Leo's,..
There were other ways to bring things into balance without giving up all the advantage of the 'gold' bots. Afterall,.. if you guy a premium item,.. you have a right to expect it to be premium,. and REMAIN premium. They did slightly increase the base bot HP's (like all the other bots), shifting the game from firepower to survivability,.. but their reduction in the shields took away everything they 'gave' with the HP rebalance,.. and a more.
Gepard,.. fine, you took away hit points,.. NOW, let it have a speed increase so that it can get to 60?.... 62?.... not much,.. but it would still make it a viable bot at higher levels,... slower than the stalker, similar HP's,.. no stealth,. but the extra light hard point.
Gareth is ok,.... I agree that Galahad & most certainly Lancelot need more shields,... Galahad, just a little,.. but Lance,... well,.. you can stop calling them 'Chubs',.. and now just call them 'Targets',... cause most of your opponents see them as an easy kill,... too slow,... too little HP's,.. and now too little shield.
(if you want to create a custom skin for them,.. just take the circles from an archery target and paint it on their 'face'... that is kinda how your enemy sees it.) =/
The '3 piece' shield was a stupid idea anyway,.. all that did was weaken the shield to begin with,... you essentially had 1 shield at 1/3 the points,... cause most of the shots would come in to the same 'aim point' on the bot. effectively negating the possiblity that you could use the other 2 sheilds. If you wanted it to be usable,.. Lance needs to be a bit narrower,.. with a larger shield (one piece) with a moderate HP value,... The whole Lance mechanic just didn't seem to work right?... Could have made it like the Garth & Galahad?....
If this does become a game where the developers bring out new bots every 6 months,.. and then trash the old 'premium' bots,. so you have to buy the latest & greatest to compete,.... then, like all the players I know & play with,.. we will move on to another game,... and forget this one. Been there, done that,... don't do it any more. - (note to Pixonic)
Have to agree,.. if you pay for something,.. you expect it to have value,.. and to RETAIN value,.. or you don't buy it,.. at least,.. not with real money, and I thought Pix wanted to make some real money?.... o.O
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