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Post by truechill on Feb 5, 2017 23:43:52 GMT -5
With the changes to MM I was wondering if the 5th slot is still a top priority. I know a lot of people normally would say 5th slot before AU bots or weapons. I was wondering if the new MM has changed that. When I field the best bots that I have right now I don't have enough good weapons and I am already heavily bottled necked with upgrades with just four slots. My 4th bot right now is using base level 5 pinatas that barely scratch the paint on enemy bots that I face. If I was to add a 5th slot I wouldn't really have anything note worthy to put there.
Basically I have 3 Orkins already and I am trying to justify spending AU on Aphids ... instead of saving for the 5th slot. ... .
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 23:47:45 GMT -5
5th Slot.
Always and forever.
If there were a 6th slot I'd be all over it.
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Post by zeus on Feb 6, 2017 0:12:22 GMT -5
I would suggest getting that last slot. You are going to need it once you climb higher. I get meched out a lot with 7/9 bots facing 7/9s to the occasional 10/11s to the rare 12/12 bots. Even if you have to play a grasshopper in that slot for the first two beacons, it's still worth it.
There are so many noob 10/11 players with 4 bot slots and sometimes they baby their bots so much that the team lack frontline strength with other players constantly taking the heat or they mech out at the wrong time despite a strong start leading to a late game loss.
But if you know what you are doing, just do whatever you think improves your current hangar. Just remember to get that 5th slot.
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Post by sonofsam on Feb 6, 2017 1:14:03 GMT -5
With the MM the way it is there are plenty of people who need 10 slots. I only have 4 because I keep getting distracted by shiny things. I am generally there at the end but it's because I drive my last not differently than the first 3. I don't camp but I also don't take risks at all. A 5th slot would probable keep me in the top 2 constantly. I have been on one heck of a losing streak today. Some of it is because of dumb teammates but most of it is because of teammates meching out at around the 7 minute mark while we are winning by a landslide. The reds have 3 minutes of 6vs3 or 5vs2 and just hunt the rest of us down. So yea the 5th slot is still as important as it was maybe more so. Now if they would quit distracting me with...oh that looks shiny.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 6, 2017 1:58:19 GMT -5
i prefer to run 4 competitive bots than 5 free silver/kills for the reds  |
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Post by truechill on Feb 6, 2017 2:21:37 GMT -5
I would suggest getting that last slot. You are going to need it once you climb higher. I get meched out a lot with 7/9 bots facing 7/9s to the occasional 10/11s to the rare 12/12 bots. Even if you have to play a grasshopper in that slot for the first two beacons, it's still worth it. There are so many noob 10/11 players with 4 bot slots and sometimes they baby their bots so much that the team lack frontline strength with other players constantly taking the heat or they mech out at the wrong time despite a strong start leading to a late game loss. But if you know what you are doing, just do whatever you think improves your current hangar. Just remember to get that 5th slot. Lucky dog. Match making has still been fairly volatile for me. My hanger is a shamble at the moment. Three of my bots are roughly 6/7, and the 4th is 6/5. I am almost always put against bots that are 10/10, and frequently 12/12. I face rhinos and Galahads in mass and there are jacked Lancelots and Furries peppered throughout almost every game. |
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Post by truechill on Feb 6, 2017 2:22:26 GMT -5
i prefer to run 4 competitive bots than 5 free silver/kills for the reds That is kinda what I was thinking. |
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Post by zeus on Feb 6, 2017 4:15:55 GMT -5
I would suggest getting that last slot. You are going to need it once you climb higher. I get meched out a lot with 7/9 bots facing 7/9s to the occasional 10/11s to the rare 12/12 bots. Even if you have to play a grasshopper in that slot for the first two beacons, it's still worth it. There are so many noob 10/11 players with 4 bot slots and sometimes they baby their bots so much that the team lack frontline strength with other players constantly taking the heat or they mech out at the wrong time despite a strong start leading to a late game loss. But if you know what you are doing, just do whatever you think improves your current hangar. Just remember to get that 5th slot. Lucky dog. Match making has still been fairly volatile for me. My hanger is a shamble at the moment. Three of my bots are roughly 6/7, and the 4th is 6/5. I am almost always put against bots that are 10/10, and frequently 12/12. I face rhinos and Galahads in mass and there are jacked Lancelots and Furries peppered throughout almost every game. MM is volatile for most of us. I got placed in a full 10/11-12/12 game against a 12/12 squad and ran into several squads in a row after that. I did 50k damage total in that yamantau map against furies and midrange, one leaver on our team left on his second bot within 2-3 minutes, he did 100k damage. It made me realise my lone wolf playstyle won't hold up well and I need to play better as a team player. It also made me wonder if I should buy a fury with tridents to augment my rdb griffin because clearly the top game is dominated by furies and mid range. Even the Ancelot couldn't last long at the middle beacons. |
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Post by banokburn on Feb 6, 2017 4:16:56 GMT -5
I would suggest getting that last slot. You are going to need it once you climb higher. I get meched out a lot with 7/9 bots facing 7/9s to the occasional 10/11s to the rare 12/12 bots. Even if you have to play a grasshopper in that slot for the first two beacons, it's still worth it. There are so many noob 10/11 players with 4 bot slots and sometimes they baby their bots so much that the team lack frontline strength with other players constantly taking the heat or they mech out at the wrong time despite a strong start leading to a late game loss. But if you know what you are doing, just do whatever you think improves your current hangar. Just remember to get that 5th slot. Just my thoughts! I'm so tired to loose games being meched out. In most cases red has in total three or four more bots. Get those 5th slot and join the battle. |
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Post by moody on Feb 6, 2017 4:34:42 GMT -5
i prefer to run 4 competitive bots than 5 free silver/kills for the reds But 5 competitive bots is even better. |
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Post by banokburn on Feb 6, 2017 4:49:00 GMT -5
i prefer to run 4 competitive bots than 5 free silver/kills for the reds That is kinda what I was thinking. I run a 5 slot hangar best described with 7.5/7.5 I also meat oponents with 10/10 hangars. If I compare their average damage to mine it is almost the same. My pride is to leave this guys behind me. OK with old MM you could sit at the top of a given tier and wait the new ones an exercice them. Good for ego, bad for play stile. And no one forces you do bring your last joker in the game when everything is lost. But your last bot can turn tides when both teams are close to win. Before I bought a Carnage for my 5th slot I tried with my Gepard/Pinata and Patton/Molot. They worked and were better than nothing. And offered new tactical option. A 12/12 Lancelot in end game is less worth when you need to cap a beacon urgent. The Molot Patton perhaps can force the Fury into cover..... find out! At last a Griffin or a Leo are not so expensive. Arm them with stocked weapons and join the fight. You'll be surprised what that 5th slot is good for. |
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Post by nocluevok on Feb 6, 2017 7:02:21 GMT -5
Just an observation on my part, but I got the 5th slot and was doing just as well score wise with 4.
Could just be me, but getting it seems to have earned me tougher matches.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 6, 2017 7:25:54 GMT -5
i prefer to run 4 competitive bots than 5 free silver/kills for the reds But 5 competitive bots is even better. of course 5 competitive bots are importanter  |
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Post by funyun on Feb 6, 2017 11:46:45 GMT -5
Hard to say, its seems often that I either need 2-3 bots, or its not even worth spawning in again. My desire to feed the damage stats of high tier bots has gone to zero. It doesn't take long to figure out MM screwed you on a matchup.
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 6, 2017 12:14:06 GMT -5
That 5th slot is only important if you feel winning is important. If so, then no change pre- to post-mm.
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 6, 2017 12:19:32 GMT -5
But 5 competitive bots is even better. of course 5 competitive bots are importanter 4 competitive bots and one punching bag is still better than only 4 competitive bots. |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 6, 2017 12:31:01 GMT -5
Even more so than ever. So many of my matches lately have come down to simply who mechs out first.
Being able to field an additional bot, doesn't have to be a monster serviceable will do, can make a huge difference in which team collapses at the 7-8 minute mark.
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Post by 3castle on Feb 6, 2017 19:29:03 GMT -5
i only have 3 slots, and i rarely ever use up all 3 bots before battle ends.my avg dmg is hitting low 500k.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Feb 6, 2017 19:41:13 GMT -5
For what its worth I run a 6/6 hanger and just got my 5th slot. It really is game changing, my au and ag income is much much higher now.
As much as the game environment is evolving slots before bots still seems a solid plan.
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