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Post by ecthelion on Feb 5, 2017 12:08:08 GMT -5
I will soon be able to buy either the Rhino or Fujin. The Fujin will have three tarans. The Rhino will have two tarans and two mags. I already have one Rhino. Which one should I pick? Thank you
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 5, 2017 12:52:57 GMT -5
Rhino is the more durable, if harder to drive correctly. Fujiin has its own quirks, but if I had to choose I'd go rhino.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 13:26:40 GMT -5
2nd Rhino - orks/pinatas
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Post by kjester on Feb 5, 2017 13:40:48 GMT -5
I would say it depends on how much you like the Rhino you have. If you like it and its one of your better bots, get that. Any plasma weapons will eat up the Fuijin.
Me? I am different than most pilots. I have a Rhino and have tried it at different times. I learned to handle it well enough too. I just dont like it. Yet I do have a Fuijin in my hangar I do like, but its used as a specialized bot with Hydras. If I see a lot of Stalkers or Griffins, I will go to it. I dont like using Trebs so if I face trebs, or too many Trident Furys, I will use it to get close enough under cover and keep them off my teammates. Or I will use it as a last bot at the end of a match to try and get some last licks in for damage count when I wont have enough time to get a good bot into battle.
Still, I would bet if a poll was taken, 99% of the experienced pilots would tell you the Rhino over the Fuijin. Thats the feeling I get from things others have said in the past.
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Post by Muhlakai on Feb 5, 2017 14:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 14:30:26 GMT -5
Death Button Rhino is guaranteed death for you and your enemy. The lifespan of that thing is not that long
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Post by //OBIONE\\ on Feb 5, 2017 16:06:21 GMT -5
Rhino, Orkans/Aphids, is my current favorite loadout. The Aphids can lock on without having to drop the shield and turn while the Orkans reload.
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 16:33:13 GMT -5
I have just dropped the rhino from my lineup. I seriously can't see taking it to top. I know how to drive it and get a lot of use out of it for taking and holding beacons and flanking. (generally plasma).
I will say that aphids probably take it to a slightly different level. I have found the light weapons to be almost useless while the shield is up.
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 19:03:02 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino.
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 19:23:02 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino. I gather you don't have an issue with plasma griffin? I one-on-one plasma griffins with plasma galahads constantly and they go down with alarming speed. With the sheer number of Galahads running around, plasma griffins don't feel like a good idea. When I run rhinos I run plasma rhino. Any other build I will use a griffin. (that being said, the rhino is now out of my hanger). |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 5, 2017 19:27:47 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino. I gather you don't have an issue with plasma griffin? I one-on-one plasma griffins with plasma galahads constantly and they go down with alarming speed. With the sheer number of Galahads running around, plasma griffins don't feel like a good idea. When I run rhinos I run plasma rhino. Any other build I will use a griffin. (that being said, the rhino is now out of my hanger). Rhino has zero evasion, unlike the griffin. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 19:28:18 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino. I gather you don't have an issue with plasma griffin? I one-on-one plasma griffins with plasma galahads constantly and they go down with alarming speed. With the sheer number of Galahads running around, plasma griffins don't feel like a good idea. When I run rhinos I run plasma rhino. Any other build I will use a griffin. (that being said, the rhino is now out of my hanger). When going up against a Plasma Galahad, I'm usually near a wall or some sort of structure and cornershoot until their shield is broken. |
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 19:31:36 GMT -5
I gather you don't have an issue with plasma griffin? I one-on-one plasma griffins with plasma galahads constantly and they go down with alarming speed. With the sheer number of Galahads running around, plasma griffins don't feel like a good idea. When I run rhinos I run plasma rhino. Any other build I will use a griffin. (that being said, the rhino is now out of my hanger). When going up against a Plasma Galahad, I'm usually near a wall or some sort of structure and cornershoot until their shield is broken. I gather they are not doing the same? |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 19:36:08 GMT -5
When going up against a Plasma Galahad, I'm usually near a wall or some sort of structure and cornershoot until their shield is broken. I gather they are not doing the same? Sometimes they corner shoot as well haha... In that case, I usually ignore them completely and signal to my teammates with some sort of splash to take them out for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 19:36:22 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino. How could you make that argument for Orkan Mag setup? |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 19:38:00 GMT -5
Griffin > Rhino with any setup. Always go Griffin if you're deciding on whether or not to buy a Rhino. How could you make that argument for Orkan Mag setup? Before the buff to the Griffin I ran the Rhino Ork/Mag setup. After the buff, I tried the Ork/Mag on the Griffin and noticed I was have been preforming much better with it and never switched back.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 19:40:30 GMT -5
How could you make that argument for Orkan Mag setup? Before the buff to the Griffin I ran the Rhino Ork/Mag setup. After the buff, I tried the Ork/Mag on the Griffin and noticed I was have been preforming much better with it and never switched back. I feel like the Griffin does not have the durability to keep continuous fire. Griffin weapons pop off a lot faster than Rhino weapons. |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 19:54:25 GMT -5
Before the buff to the Griffin I ran the Rhino Ork/Mag setup. After the buff, I tried the Ork/Mag on the Griffin and noticed I was have been preforming much better with it and never switched back. I feel like the Griffin does not have the durability to keep continuous fire. Griffin weapons pop off a lot faster than Rhino weapons. The Griffin has a Jump which gives the Griffin an advantage in every situation. If the Griffin went up against the Rhino with they same close range setup, the Griffin would win 99% of the time if they had decent piloting. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:04:47 GMT -5
That is in a 1 on 1. A Plasma Griffin would not beat a Plasma Rhino in a 1-1.
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 20:12:51 GMT -5
I gather they are not doing the same? Sometimes they corner shoot as well haha... In that case, I usually ignore them completely and signal to my teammates with some sort of splash to take them out for me. That's a different story. Comms or some other sort of signal? I find orks work really well on griffins. They only seem good on rhinos if you are doing a suicide setup. I outright hate the hellfire rhino build. Anyone in their right mind is going to walk slowly out of your line of fire. |
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 20:15:06 GMT -5
That is in a 1 on 1. A Plasma Griffin would not beat a Plasma Rhino in a 1-1. While I don't like the PDB griffin, I don't necessarily agree with this. It would depend on piloting and map though. In an open field with equal pilots i go for the rhino - but how often does that happen? |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Feb 5, 2017 20:54:28 GMT -5
Sometimes they corner shoot as well haha... In that case, I usually ignore them completely and signal to my teammates with some sort of splash to take them out for me. That's a different story. Comms or some other sort of signal? Usually hit them with Magnums or an Orkan missle and when they turn I fire my magnums at the robot I want taken out. Works only sometimes when playing with randoms though xD |
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Post by jazzykat on Feb 5, 2017 21:35:01 GMT -5
I'm getting used to the Plasma Rhino after a month of playing with it. If you have some team mates to run it with, IMO it is much better than Griffin. However, Plasma Griffin solo is usually better because you can bug out.
Orkans are way better on a Griffin because you can sweep in and wipe out the red.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Feb 5, 2017 21:46:20 GMT -5
With the overall-speedup of the heavies, Griffin appears to perform better than Rhino in most cases.
BTW isn't this a Rhino v Fujin thread?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 22:01:30 GMT -5
I'd take a Rhino over a Fujin
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Post by 3castle on Feb 5, 2017 23:05:10 GMT -5
rhino
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Post by whatttupG on Feb 6, 2017 0:48:45 GMT -5
Have a fujin because you can't grow up in this world and get this game without playing until you own a spider bot.. you just can't.
In game play, it folds like a card table and is basically just red bait. Once the enemy sees you, you have less than 60 sec to live. Tarans make it spicy, molots make the enemy trek forever to get you, but you die either way and as said, you have to play it until you get it out of your system because, it's really not worth the slot it takes up in your hanger.
That said, I don't own a rhino but I do run a plasma Griff all day long and I can tell you first hand, the jumping ambush of death bot is just cool... until you see you've ambushed a rhino and you get to hold the red button until you die.
So buy what you want, it'll go about as I've outlined above. TBH a fujin is unlikely to be "good" advice here yet, I bet if you ask it in a certain way, those that vote against it would also admit that it might be a lesson you can only learn the hard way.
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Feb 6, 2017 8:57:55 GMT -5
I have one of each. The fujin generally sits around collecting dust. It's actually useful on the larger maps with hydras as long as you can find an out of the way place to hide with it AND you can get to it alive. Even with the faster shield regeneration plasmas take it out much too quickly. So yeah, it mostly collects dust.
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Post by K A Z on Feb 6, 2017 9:04:38 GMT -5
Any decent video showing Hydra Fujin?
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Feb 6, 2017 10:06:37 GMT -5
The Hydra fujin is support only. It's good for harassing stuff of killing runaway stalked when their cloak drops and they go into hiding. Don't expect to rack up a ton of damage with it because you won't. I wasn't around when the hydra was called the "swarm" but it sounded like it much worse than aphids ever were.
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