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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 4, 2017 12:31:04 GMT -5
So I've got most of my weapons to level 8 and a fair chunk of gold (6k) and workshop points (17k) waiting for the Lunar Coin event to end (just in case I accidentally win something that affects my hangar). I'm happy with at least 2 of my bots for a long time, and 4 of them for now. However, before spending silver on pricy upgrades above level 8 I want to focus on improving things I will want to use for a long time.
My current hangar:
DB Griffin
RDB Griffin x2 - I would replace one of these first but see below
PDB Rhino
Thunder/something Leo (rotates between pinatas, punishers, and aphids) - I find I usually can't inflict as much damage with this as with an RDB Griffin, so this is the first robohead on the chopping block
My dilemma: Do I start upgrading a second pair of orkans now and save a little more for a Lancelot to put them on, or do I replace the Leo immediately with a plasma Galahad (still getting orkans now and waiting a long time for a Lancelot, if ever)? I know they're very different bots but I don't want to drop a lot of gold on a bot I won't like any more than what I've already got.
My playstyle is unloading the maximum damage possible on the enemy. Speed is important to me mainly to the extent that it gets me from spawn to combat faster. Things I don't know: Is the plasma Galahad able to dish out a ton of damage in 2-2.5 minutes and then let me move on to a fresh bot? Does the Lance have such a glass jaw facing rockets (I won't have the gold for an Ancile) that the Galahad is likely to dish out more, even in roughly a 3-minute ceiling? Is the Lance so slow that it may not even make it into engagement range in the current meta? Is the Rhino better than both at this, so I should get a 2nd Rhino first (probably hellfire)? Would love to hear from players who have played both and can help me understand where either fits into the "maximum attrition" style of bot warfare.
Also open to suggestions of things I haven't considered but that might work better at making stuff blow up. Thanks!
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Post by karljackson on Feb 4, 2017 12:42:35 GMT -5
Each have a wildly different purpose. It depends on the rest of your hanger. If you have any ton of slow bots, go with Galahad. You should always have some sort of DB though.
Recently, I've replaced my Rhino with a DB Griffin. Couldn't be happier with the move. All the mid range and Galahads have made Rhinos even more of a clunky target.
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Feb 4, 2017 12:44:30 GMT -5
I have a similar dilemma and am trying to decide what to get next and I'm trying to decide between a Lancelot and Fury.
But, to answer your question. The Galahad is a great swiss-army knife bot. With a taran and two magnums it can dish it out. With the shield on the side it moves along pretty good too. Of course with the shield being on the left you are limited to a counter-clockwise direction at max speed unless you have a lot of space to work with going in reverse. It can't match a Lancelot in firepower, but its probably a lot easier to maneuver around given the width difference.
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Post by blognio on Feb 4, 2017 12:45:09 GMT -5
Never used lancelot, but I love my galahad. I don't think you should buy the rhino, since you already have one
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Post by blastronaut on Feb 4, 2017 17:38:30 GMT -5
might as well take the extra hp from the Lanc. Not to mention that you can slap an ancile on top to repel rocket splash damage.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 5, 2017 16:58:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the insights. I think I'll go with the Galahad first in place of the Leo, rotating between Plasma and Right Hand Smack to get a feel for which suits me better (although plasma seems to be the current "meta build" of choice).
Lancelot will have wait... hopefully he won't be nerfed by the time I can afford him again. My other concern now is that Plasmahad/Rockethad had better dish out more damage for me than RDB Griffin, so he can stay in my lineup when big brother finally comes along! I'd hate to retire that much gold anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 18:23:47 GMT -5
Get a Trident Carnage and save that gold for later.
Plasma is not "meta" atm - splash and midrange is.
The Carnage will provide a platform for several playingstyles - tridents, trebs, zeus - or even kwks/nashorns if you wanna snipe.
If ya wanna blow gold get a Fury (hate to say that cause imho theyre ruining the game) - but tri/treb furys are the flavour of the month - at least on 3 maps.
Edit: a Lance without an Ancile is just a big, slow target by now. Usefull sometimes, dead many times.
With an ancile its just a slow Rog on steroids - good if clanmates support you, dead meat if not.
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 18:57:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the insights. I think I'll go with the Galahad first in place of the Leo, rotating between Plasma and Right Hand Smack to get a feel for which suits me better (although plasma seems to be the current "meta build" of choice). Lancelot will have wait... hopefully he won't be nerfed by the time I can afford him again. My other concern now is that Plasmahad/Rockethad had better dish out more damage for me than RDB Griffin, so he can stay in my lineup when big brother finally comes along! I'd hate to retire that much gold anytime soon. Plasma definitely dishes out more damage than an RDB. For plasma, learn your ranges. It is a harassing and flanking bot and between the shield and speed can get out of a lot of bad situations. I have played a lot of games where I have kept the plasmahad at 340ish meters, while peeking round corners. Dealing a lot of damage while being virtually untouchable to non-midrange bots. Vs DB rhino. Back up with shield while firing - he will probably be faster but only a little - if he lowers shields and fires then most will miss you as you can outrun them and you are doing damage with plasma while his shield is down. Vs lance is similar but they tend not to chase you. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 6, 2017 19:22:26 GMT -5
Honestly I see little difference between the Lancelot and the galahad. You're on andriod, and you no doubt have seen the affliction of orkans/splash on the front lines. They both die quick to this. Main differences being speed and firepower. Lancelot = firepower, galahad = speed. I will say, they both can deal an amazing amount of damage if the battlefield conditions are right, i.e. little to no splash wherever you happen to be. Myself, I went the Lancelot route, but I have 3 lances and 2 galahads. Someday maybe they'll both be in the hangar at the same time. For now tho, it's all Lancelot all the time for me.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 6, 2017 19:26:14 GMT -5
Edit: a Lance without an Ancile is just a big, slow target by now. Usefull sometimes, dead many times. With an ancile its just a slow Rog on steroids - good if clanmates support you, dead meat if not. Or, you're a tough piece of mobile cover for your teammates that shoots back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 5:03:56 GMT -5
I run both, so I will chime in.
I always start with gala. He caps beacons... then, he either (a) does massive dAmage on his own, if facing plasma Griff's or carnies or fujins... or (b) dies swifty to trifury or DB setups, dpending on map...
Lance, I usually bring him out 3rd or 4th, he excels at killing things quickly assuming they're close... he is horrible if he has to cross distances to get to the fight.... e.g. Springfield OR yamantau
Gala is the more well-rounded fighter, but Lance is my favorite guy to drop, assuming he can engage quickly
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Post by Tarastir on Feb 7, 2017 5:17:04 GMT -5
Galahad can hide behind buildings and still be able to schoot with all weapons - you don't even have to use your shield. It's really helpfull. But I you don't like to use cover pick the Lancelot  |
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Post by JstKnwImThad on Feb 7, 2017 5:19:58 GMT -5
Plasma galahad all the waaaaaaaay. It gives me a great bang for my buck. Orkan or taran lance is not bad too imo but to me it's not worth the price
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Feb 8, 2017 3:58:47 GMT -5
Plasmahad
The advantage to corner shoot and a shield and the speed makes it a nice bot
2 light= 1 heavy
Lancelot has more hp but lacks speed
It's like choosing whether to play FNAF 3 or FNAF 4
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Post by K A Z on Feb 8, 2017 4:50:43 GMT -5
Orkan/mag or orkan/pinata Gala?
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Post by moody on Feb 8, 2017 21:21:28 GMT -5
Orkan/mag or orkan/pinata Gala? If I had to ork mag. And fire the mags seperately until you get in range. two mags alternating cause a beautiful cacophony. |
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 8, 2017 22:11:39 GMT -5
As proven above, just boils down to gala or lance. I run 2x Gala and 1x Lance in my main hangar. Below my 2 cents.
1) your playstyle is getting in people's face and dealing max dmg - just on thag basis, lance is your game. Sure the shield got nerfed, too slow blah blah, but in terms of sheer speed of dolling out in-your-face dmg, lance is miles ahead of gala. When situation is right, my lance can take down 3-4 fresh reds in 1-2 minutes
2) having said that, game is not just about burst dmg, it's about beacons and controlling the battlefield - this is what gala excels at. Since you don't have one, get this first. It's a game changer
3) Note however, gala is not meant for charging into red territory. Shield is not meant for duking out vs reds, it's more like a temporary cover while you move into diff positions. Gala won't be your one-shot guy. Even the right-hand smack is not really a true death button against high HP heavies. Focus on survival, flanking, and move around the map to get punches in here and there - then the damages will rack up over time
I voted gala, but lance is a good wishlist for you. I wouldn't say lance's actual worth on the battlefield is 2x that of gala (as the price tag would suggest), but it has it's moments and I certainly don't regret getting one.
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Post by wrilley on Feb 9, 2017 1:06:26 GMT -5
Voted plasma Galahad. Move Taran from Rhino, and replace them with Orkans. Hellfire Rhino seems to be the best build, plus you'll be upgrading a pair of Orks for your Lancelot for later on.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 9, 2017 8:31:45 GMT -5
Thanks for all the insights guys. I think Galahad will be next while Lancelot will have to wait - based on what I have available my upcoming lineup will be (spending 4900-5650 Au):
Hellfire Rhino (already have stuff)
RDB Griffin (already have)
Taran/Aphid Griffin (already have stuff)
Ork/Aphid Griffin (must buy 2 Orkans and 1 Aphid - will probably use 1 Pinata as a substitute to save Au)
Plasmahad (must buy 1 Galahad)
I still really want to drive a Thunder/Orkan Lance but until I have that 2nd set of Orks ready to go, I'm thinking it would gimp my hangar in too many scenarios to stick my only set on Chubby - they might never see the field effectively in some battles. And as much as I expect to enjoy the mayhem of a waddling tank with massive firepower, I would hate to give up 'death from above' (Ork/Aphid Griff) in exchange. This path gets me where I want to go, although obviously never as fast as I would like. TBH I'm more excited about adding the 2nd pair of Orkans than the Plasmahad, although I'm still happy with Plasmahad replacing that Leo to give my hangar more versatility.
The bad news is that this hangar will leave me months away from getting the Lance, but on a good note I will be set up slightly better for winning matches (i.e. Au) than if I went straight to Lancelot. Plus I'll still able to mix it up fairly well at close range in the meantime. Just need to wait a couple more to be sure I don't accidentally win something with Lunar coins that changes my calculus!
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