gamingbulldog
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Post by gamingbulldog on Feb 4, 2017 14:10:07 GMT -5
I too am extremely wary of the new league system. The daily missions do not give much, however it has been a sure thing, and available to everyone. Perhaps it's due to being one of the older folks playing but I value dependability. For me knowing you can get a little gold every day is more attractive than a chance of getting a larger reward. The new mm sounded great but has had some issues. It was supposed to be much harder to exploit yet "tanking" almost instantly became a big problem. Thus while the league system sounds promising it worries me that I don't know the details and that a very dependable source of a little gold is being removed. Yes the new MM has substantial problems, but this should provide incentive to win as much as possible because (if this works how I think it does) the higher you are the greater your rewards are.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Feb 4, 2017 15:10:55 GMT -5
Daily quests are the only resource that separates this game from being a pay2win from a pay2gofast. I really doubt they would take daily quests away, unless they are really insane.
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bearre
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Post by bearre on Feb 4, 2017 15:17:51 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Black Screen Bug: The bug has been fixed and appropriate compensation has been given out in the form of 3 days of premium. New Map: The new map is confirmed. It will be showcased in this week's test server but without textures since Pixo doesn't want to spoil the setting. It is likely that this is the heavily hinted at moon map. Whether it has low gravity or not remains to be seen. Anicle Shield Bug: While there are some inconsistencies with anicles, most of them should be fixed in 2.6. This includes the bug where the anicle takes double damage. Since there is nothing related to the current mm, I have decided to leave this thread unlocked for now. The OP specifically mentions the daily task system and this concerns me. If they just replace missions with league rewards I am far more comfortable with the idea.
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Pulse Hadron
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Feb 4, 2017 15:48:00 GMT -5
My imagination (and hope) for leagues is that each has a hangar criteria to enter. So to play the lowest league you can only have lvl 1-4 light bots with lvl 1-4 weapons and no WSP. As long as your hangar qualifies you can enter, but the new MM will group you with equally skilled players in that league. Oh I hope it's something like this because I want to play a game without Griffins again
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 4, 2017 16:16:23 GMT -5
My imagination (and hope) for leagues is that each has a hangar criteria to enter. So to play the lowest league you can only have lvl 1-4 light bots with lvl 1-4 weapons and no WSP. As long as your hangar qualifies you can enter, but the new MM will group you with equally skilled players in that league. Oh I hope it's something like this because I want to play a game without Griffins again We have the same dream, mah friend...
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 4, 2017 16:48:06 GMT -5
My imagination (and hope) for leagues is that each has a hangar criteria to enter. So to play the lowest league you can only have lvl 1-4 light bots with lvl 1-4 weapons and no WSP. As long as your hangar qualifies you can enter, but the new MM will group you with equally skilled players in that league. Oh I hope it's something like this because I want to play a game without Griffins again We have the same dream, mah friend... I third that (just as well as I hope the OP muxed daily tasks and missions abs was, rhys, inaccurate... a clarification would be nice)
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Post by Strayed on Feb 4, 2017 18:59:31 GMT -5
Hey guys, my bad, I've looked over the information given several times and it seems that I mixed up the daily tasks system and the missions system.
You guys can breathe now.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 4, 2017 19:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 3:28:09 GMT -5
Get a rope!
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Post by banokburn on Feb 5, 2017 6:58:18 GMT -5
My imagination (and hope) for leagues is that each has a hangar criteria to enter. So to play the lowest league you can only have lvl 1-4 light bots with lvl 1-4 weapons and no WSP. As long as your hangar qualifies you can enter, but the new MM will group you with equally skilled players in that league. Oh I hope it's something like this because I want to play a game without Griffins again I have a dream... As I menitoned above. Leagues could be much more than a rebirth of the old tier system. Leagues can make all bots and weapons useful and/or playable. Let's play grashopper last man standing
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Post by kingzam on Feb 5, 2017 10:59:14 GMT -5
Sadly realizing most people have given up caring about the game, especially when it comes up to winning. The new Mm has left a lot of people with this "who cares" attitude. Now the talk about taking away other gold in matches just reinforces this attitude. People are tanking and there is no way to really determine wins from deliberate manipulation by reds. The game imo is a shadow of what it once was and I have greatly slowed down playing, infact my clan dropped from just over 100 cups to near 400 now.. Many have quit or don't care about playing anymore. The game really lost the flavor, when you could fight in bronze or silver with light and medium bots. Now most or I should say many are forced to play gold, and boredom comes to play very quickly, especially since you can't rely on goals that in the old mm you could set and reach. Here there are no goals because once you get close to getting somewhere (unless you spend more on gold) you are placed in very hard matches, and many who don't care if they lose or not, just walk away. Making the match ever that much tougher and sometimes unwinnable. Goals are important in any game, and war robots lost sight of what is important to people.. and many will still continue on playing but I think the turn around rate will increase a lot (people leaving/new people joining) All in all, the game lost its flavor.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 5, 2017 17:36:05 GMT -5
I must say, with my clan we are test running full med bots (preparing a tournament, so...). And we actually have a 50% win against heavy hangars (and we aren't even communicating voice while playing). You cannot determine what "tier" you are going to face, but medium bots aren't dead at all, if appropriately levelled (low bot/high weapons will get you vaporized quickly, tho).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 5:45:37 GMT -5
Uhoh... ditching daily missions in favour for a league system?
What I know of leagues is that the top scorers gets rewards.
So if they really take away the meager income everyone could manage and instead reward the whales and long time players/ hardcore grinders: GG Pixo, then I am gone. I do have a job and many interests besides War Robots.
And I reinstalled MWO yesterday anyways...
Edit: this is not a rant, its what I fear. Could be also possible that leagues breath new life in the game while still offering "part-time" players a slow but steady progress...
Edit2: okay, if that league system will come instead of "player of the ...", while leaving daily missions as they are, it might actually be a good idea. Especially if we see tiers come back to life.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 6, 2017 6:43:01 GMT -5
and they nerf again the silver reward? pls check your silver reward after battle and compare to what you earn before they give the "FREE" 3 days premium
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 14:46:38 GMT -5
I must say, with my clan we are test running full med bots (preparing a tournament, so...). And we actually have a 50% win against heavy hangars (and we aren't even communicating voice while playing). You cannot determine what "tier" you are going to face, but medium bots aren't dead at all, if appropriately levelled (low bot/high weapons will get you vaporized quickly, tho). Which mediums are you running? Certainly Carnage and Galahads have no issue competing at a high level. Patton with Aphids as well. Anything other than those?
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 6, 2017 17:15:21 GMT -5
Personally, 2 Galahads, 2 Golems, 1 Carnage. Admittedly, Galahads, Aphid Pattons and Carnages make the bulk of the ranks, but there are a few Boas and the odd Rogatkas (only medium jumping, wish we had more of them). The only ones actually I haven't seen played are Docs and Fujins (for no other reason no one seems to have one in the team) and Vytiaz (too fragile for close combat, on support role the Golem has more firepower and it's faster to level).
granted, they are all in the 10/10 range or above (I'm actually underlevelled with some 9/9)
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Pulse Hadron
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Feb 6, 2017 17:27:36 GMT -5
Is it reasonable to expect 2.6 to drop around the end of February? Looking at their version release dates they've been about every month since the beginning.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 6, 2017 18:37:14 GMT -5
Hey guys, my bad, I've looked over the information given several times and it seems that I mixed up the daily tasks system and the missions system. You guys can breathe now. (Lyrics NSFW)
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Post by noobcake on Feb 6, 2017 20:26:21 GMT -5
That new map was pretty sweet! It had a great mix of ranges, hiding spots, and a unique design.
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Post by frunobulax on Feb 7, 2017 7:21:39 GMT -5
I'm afraid that Pix has not realized how important it is to play with several hangars. It's not just for fun (and it is fun to play with an all-light or all-medium hangar), but also to allow clanmates with different hangars to squad together. I always used to strip my heavies and mount some stock AG mediums if squading in what used to be low silver with my clanmates. And if you are relatively new to the game, then you simply don't have enough Orkans, Aphids, Tarans, Magnums and Tridents to compete in higher leagues, even if they do purchase some AG heavies. Under the new system I can no longer run a squad with them.
I'm also afraid that Pix doesn't comprehend what one of the most pressing problems with the matchmaking is. I was hoping I would be matched up with better players, it turns out I'm matched up with stupid players with much better weapons. Getting beaten by a skilled opponent is less frustrating than getting beaten simply because your opponent is 4 levels higher. (That, and of course that MM for squads seems to be completely broken.)
Some players seem to think that leagues will fix at least the second issue. Frankly, I don't see how leagues could adress either issue, and the idea of a league that is purely damage driven scares me very much. Nerfing midrange weapons to eliminate those "5 campers on each side" type games would seem to be a precondition on using any damage based metric.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 14:48:45 GMT -5
PIX simply doesn't get it
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Whoosh Booms
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Post by Whoosh Booms on Feb 8, 2017 1:27:08 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Missions are not the same thing as the daily tasks. They're talking about those "pilot of the day/week/month" awards. I don't think they're taking away the daily tasks, unless you have inside knowledge that differs from what's in this Pixonic blog post: warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">medium.com/ warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz " Last, but not least: we want to give you better rewards for improving. It was the initial intent of the “missions” system, but as it turned out only a small handful of people could have access to “Best pilot of the day/week/month” rewards. And those who went to the extremes and managed to do so weren’t even acknowledged as deserved. With the introduction of Leagues system, which is deeply intertwined with new matchmaking, everything is going to change." last time everything changed was mm. mm change=bad. new change hopefully not bad.
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psychoticwolf13
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Post by psychoticwolf13 on Feb 23, 2017 22:02:50 GMT -5
Is the Dash bot confirmed
There has to be some change when it comes to the MM system with all the issues it is causing
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Post by metalchano on Mar 13, 2017 20:32:52 GMT -5
Ugh, getting rid of the daily tasks? That was one reliable way to get gold for all players and to get players to get on every day. Hoping when they roll the rewards into leagues it doesn't turn into some crazy parameters in a blatant cash grab - 60 gold a day for missions was a nice F2P touch. if they do that, I will definitely leave the game
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Post by metalchano on Mar 13, 2017 20:52:55 GMT -5
I'm afraid that Pix has not realized how important it is to play with several hangars. It's not just for fun (and it is fun to play with an all-light or all-medium hangar), but also to allow clanmates with different hangars to squad together. I always used to strip my heavies and mount some stock AG mediums if squading in what used to be low silver with my clanmates. And if you are relatively new to the game, then you simply don't have enough Orkans, Aphids, Tarans, Magnums and Tridents to compete in higher leagues, even if they do purchase some AG heavies. Under the new system I can no longer run a squad with them. I'm also afraid that Pix doesn't comprehend what one of the most pressing problems with the matchmaking is. I was hoping I would be matched up with better players, it turns out I'm matched up with stupid players with much better weapons. Getting beaten by a skilled opponent is less frustrating than getting beaten simply because your opponent is 4 levels higher. (That, and of course that MM for squads seems to be completely broken.) Some players seem to think that leagues will fix at least the second issue. Frankly, I don't see how leagues could adress either issue, and the idea of a league that is purely damage driven scares me very much. Nerfing midrange weapons to eliminate those "5 campers on each side" type games would seem to be a precondition on using any damage based metric. sometimes i want to smash my cellphone against the wall, when I find out that I was paired with a whole bunch of stupid players against better players 4 levels higher. I've sent so many emails to pixonic asking what do I to do? leave the level of the bot or update it? but I think if you update one level up, you still will find 2,3 or more higher. this issue is driving me crazy. Can you recommend what to do. thanks
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Post by Paps on Mar 13, 2017 21:02:13 GMT -5
metalchanoAs far as I know, daily Au tasks are not going away. There was some confusion about that a while ago, but it's been cleared up. The constantly having higher level opposition is a fact of life now. We're all dealing with it. Except people with max hangars. But that's the top of the ladder anyhow, so... Stuck toughing it out, essentially. Best of luck.
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Post by metalchano on Mar 14, 2017 21:18:29 GMT -5
metalchano As far as I know, daily Au tasks are not going away. There was some confusion about that a while ago, but it's been cleared up. The constantly having higher level opposition is a fact of life now. We're all dealing with it. Except people with max hangars. But that's the top of the ladder anyhow, so... Stuck toughing it out, essentially. Best of luck. Thanks man for sharing your info! I was determined to leave the game if pixonic eliminated the daily tasks, because I'm not going to spend real money in order to buy gold, considering the MM system still have issues. I didn't wanted to upgrade anything because i wanted to stay and face people of my same level bots, but I just realized that MM system is forcing you to upgrade regards you have silver/gold or not. so from now on I'm going to update everything to it max capacity to see what it happens.
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Post by Paps on Mar 14, 2017 21:31:57 GMT -5
Sure thing. And I suppose that's part of the plan, everyone moving up. But at least the dailies will still be there to get enough Au to scrape by.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 0:08:34 GMT -5
If they ever did end up yanking dailies, I'd be outta here ASAP!
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Post by ordinance // war machine on Mar 15, 2017 3:19:04 GMT -5
There happy for now but the game is all about money not about the players when the new quick draw bots were available for the heavy bot you could buy it for $140 that's a joke all the new stuff costs gold when are they going to put more bots and weapons in the workshop never that's when
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