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Post by Strayed on Feb 3, 2017 21:44:59 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(Pilot of the Hour, Pilot of the Day, etc.). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better.
Black Screen Bug: The bug has been fixed and appropriate compensation has been given out in the form of 3 days of premium.
New Map: The new map is confirmed. It will be showcased in this week's test server but without textures since Pixo doesn't want to spoil the setting. It is likely that this is the heavily hinted at moon map. Whether it has low gravity or not remains to be seen.
Anicle Shield Bug: While there are some inconsistencies with anicles, most of them should be fixed in 2.6. This includes the bug where the anicle takes double damage.
Since there is nothing related to the current mm, I have decided to leave this thread unlocked for now.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 3, 2017 23:31:24 GMT -5
Ugh, getting rid of the daily tasks? That was one reliable way to get gold for all players and to get players to get on every day. Hoping when they roll the rewards into leagues it doesn't turn into some crazy parameters in a blatant cash grab - 60 gold a day for missions was a nice F2P touch.
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Post by xserranx on Feb 4, 2017 0:18:07 GMT -5
nice.. looking forward to a new map. tnx for the update Strayed.
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Post by Strayed on Feb 4, 2017 0:39:01 GMT -5
Ugh, getting rid of the daily tasks? That was one reliable way to get gold for all players and to get players to get on every day. Hoping when they roll the rewards into leagues it doesn't turn into some crazy parameters in a blatant cash grab - 60 gold a day for missions was a nice F2P touch. I was quite worried about it as well, so I decided to mention to Pixonic that several people are worried about it.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Feb 4, 2017 1:40:34 GMT -5
Fantastic news! Yes I'm concerned about losing daily tasks but really hopeful about the league system. And a new map!
Any word on when these features might come out?
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Post by suntron on Feb 4, 2017 3:47:23 GMT -5
Leagues are a good idea. The daily tasks give a little gold but it is still 14 days to get enough for a gekko (worst gold weapon). So I don't see why they should be removed. There should be more free gold. Also I'd like to see bundled paid packages when you reach each league like in clash royale. The normal gold is just too expensive for me, £8 for a gekko no thanks (or something close to that)
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 4, 2017 4:01:53 GMT -5
Will league system be rolled out as part of v2.6?
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Feb 4, 2017 5:03:48 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Black Screen Bug: The bug has been fixed and appropriate compensation has been given out in the form of 3 days of premium. New Map: The new map is confirmed. It will be showcased in this week's test server but without textures since Pixo doesn't want to spoil the setting. It is likely that this is the heavily hinted at moon map. Whether it has low gravity or not remains to be seen. Anicle Shield Bug: While there are some inconsistencies with anicles, most of them should be fixed in 2.6. This includes the bug where the anicle takes double damage. Since there is nothing related to the current mm, I have decided to leave this thread unlocked for now. Good thing I still have 40K Au left from farming/clubbing. Somehow I think the league system will make it longer to earn that 5th slot and 1st 5K gold bot than it is now.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 4, 2017 5:25:41 GMT -5
I'm a bit worried about the league system. It seems to favor clans, so what about DPI players? Loop Stratos is a good example. How do non clan players fit in a league system?
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Post by bearre on Feb 4, 2017 7:47:47 GMT -5
I too am extremely wary of the new league system. The daily missions do not give much, however it has been a sure thing, and available to everyone.
Perhaps it's due to being one of the older folks playing but I value dependability. For me knowing you can get a little gold every day is more attractive than a chance of getting a larger reward.
The new mm sounded great but has had some issues. It was supposed to be much harder to exploit yet "tanking" almost instantly became a big problem. Thus while the league system sounds promising it worries me that I don't know the details and that a very dependable source of a little gold is being removed.
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Post by boanerges on Feb 4, 2017 8:03:08 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Any reason they can't do both?... daily tasks would give building players a chance to earn some au to build themselves. League play would reward the players for actually doing it and growing their accounts. This would be specially true if the league play rewards are tiered.
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Post by zermer42 on Feb 4, 2017 9:37:38 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what a league system is?
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 4, 2017 9:46:47 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what a league system is? Just a way of separating players into comparable groups. In the old MM, we called them tiers....now they will be called leagues. My the best estimate is that your performance score will drive the league classification....every 5 games you will be re-evaluated on what league you should be in. The theory is then you fight other players in your league in matches. And then rewards are higher as you go up in leagues. Timing: hopefully with 2.6 update coming out New MM explanation: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/1719/new-explained-theory-experience-updated
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Feb 4, 2017 10:02:36 GMT -5
I'm a bit worried about the league system. It seems to favor clans, so what about DPI players? Loop Stratos is a good example. How do non clan players fit in a league system? DPI: Damn proud independent LOL'd at the mention. I can't see how it favors clans, could you please enlighten me? From my understanding it's like tiers made official that uses something not hangar strength as main factor.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 4, 2017 10:08:25 GMT -5
I'm a bit worried about the league system. It seems to favor clans, so what about DPI players? Loop Stratos is a good example. How do non clan players fit in a league system? DPI: Damn proud independent LOL'd at the mention. I can't see how it favors clans, could you please enlighten me? From my understanding it's like tiers made official that uses something not hangar strength as main factor. As a clan member, I have more concerns about the league system as I think it will fragment current clans as members will be placed in different leagues. In the old system, we could stay within bronze or silver or gold....now the new MM may make it difficult to be so static. So clans will have to rethink who or what they are and that will affect their rosters..... I don't see clans benefiting from leagues any differently than under the old tiers system. I think it will depend on how many leagues they have - if they have 5-8 leagues, then you will see clans focused on certain leagues.....may make feeder clans even more important so players can move within one overall clan but find plenty of clan mates to squad with. Cheers!
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Post by banokburn on Feb 4, 2017 10:37:44 GMT -5
I'm concerned too. Daily tasks provided a slow but steady flow of gold. What is the sense when few get more gold and the rest gets nothing? A league sysytem by itself could be interesting. Maybe a legue without heavies or only one of a kind in hangar allowed ...thousand chances for interesting setups. But I suppose, that all will be the return of static tiers.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 4, 2017 10:41:28 GMT -5
I'm a bit worried about the league system. It seems to favor clans, so what about DPI players? Loop Stratos is a good example. How do non clan players fit in a league system? DPI: Damn proud independent LOL'd at the mention. I can't see how it favors clans, could you please enlighten me? From my understanding it's like tiers made official that uses something not hangar strength as main factor. Well, the leagues, I usually have to watch, are soccer. So I, falsely, assumed, that it is primary for squads...
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 4, 2017 11:52:33 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Ok, the new MM by itself didn't, but together with this it is going to make the game a pay-for-play only. New players will have no way to build aminimally competitive hangar without that bit of gold more or less assured daily. If communications are both way, please tell them that is a terrible, terrible idea.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 4, 2017 12:04:18 GMT -5
I've written this on the facebook page, which runs under moderationwe'll see if they will publish it or delete it: "Greetings From the wikia forum, we read this: "League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better." I strongly beg to reconsider this insensate position. Already with the new MM, most players have no real way to earn gold but completing the daily missions. This allows for a slow build of decent hangars even for not paying players. If newbies and free players will see no clear way to play in a minimally competitive way without essentially having to pay cash for gold, they will simply leave (to be noted, the frustration with the new MM is already palpable). Now, I do understand Pix is not a charity company and is looking for money, and bless you for that. However, the game need a large number of players to stay interesting and essentially crushing free-for-play players' hopes of being able to slowly grinding their way to a few gold bots might perhaps give you a brief boost of cash in the short term, but is going to be devastaingly bad in the mid term. Please, reconsider this." Also, since I just noticed that they seem to have outight disabled teh visitors' posts, I've added it in a comment here
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Post by ogpondskum on Feb 4, 2017 12:10:21 GMT -5
When I think of Leagues, I think of handicaps. If a level 5 plays a level 9, the level 9 has to win more games to make things "even". It will be interesting to see what Pix does with them.
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Post by bearre on Feb 4, 2017 12:16:57 GMT -5
When I think of Leagues, I think of handicaps. If a level 5 plays a level 9, the level 9 has to win more games to make things "even". It will be interesting to see what Pix does with them. How do you get a reliable elo score let alone a handicap when "tanking" is still rambant? In most sports leagues with handicaps sandbagging your handicap (tanking), is illegal,as is throwing games do get an easier schedule. Won't this issue need to be dealt with first?
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Post by zeus on Feb 4, 2017 13:00:36 GMT -5
How exactly will the league system replace the daily 60-80 gold from missions?
edit: There was an error in the telephone game. The Devs are not replacing daily tasks, but missions.
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Post by Trogon on Feb 4, 2017 13:00:56 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Missions are not the same thing as the daily tasks. They're talking about those "pilot of the day/week/month" awards. I don't think they're taking away the daily tasks, unless you have inside knowledge that differs from what's in this Pixonic blog post: warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">medium.com/ warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz " Last, but not least: we want to give you better rewards for improving. It was the initial intent of the “missions” system, but as it turned out only a small handful of people could have access to “Best pilot of the day/week/month” rewards. And those who went to the extremes and managed to do so weren’t even acknowledged as deserved. With the introduction of Leagues system, which is deeply intertwined with new matchmaking, everything is going to change."
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Feb 4, 2017 13:02:39 GMT -5
How exactly will the league system replace the daily 60-80 gold from missions? It won't. I can't see any possible way they can ensure 12 to 14 top damage or top beacons a day per player. The missions work because you can accomplish (most of) them even if you lose costantly, which is essentially the situation of most newbies, especially with the new MM, so giving them a chance (and a hope) to build their hangar and get better withotu tons of cash. Which is precisely the point of the change, I suppose.
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Post by bearre on Feb 4, 2017 13:15:28 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Missions are not the same thing as the daily tasks. They're talking about those "pilot of the day/week/month" awards. I don't think they're taking away the daily tasks, unless you have inside knowledge that differs from what's in this Pixonic blog post: warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">medium.com/ warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz " Last, but not least: we want to give you better rewards for improving. It was the initial intent of the “missions” system, but as it turned out only a small handful of people could have access to “Best pilot of the day/week/month” rewards. And those who went to the extremes and managed to do so weren’t even acknowledged as deserved. With the introduction of Leagues system, which is deeply intertwined with new matchmaking, everything is going to change." Thank you for that clarification. Those rewards are indeed called missions. I think most of us erroneously confused tasks and missions.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Feb 4, 2017 13:15:51 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. This information is being provided by Pixonic to the moderators of this forum. It is not an assumption on the community's part. This is real, please take it seriously if you are concerned about it.
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Post by Trogon on Feb 4, 2017 13:19:16 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. This information is being provided by Pixonic the to moderators of this forum. It is not an assumption on the community's part. This is real. Then it's a complete mess of illogic and inconsistency from Pixonic. There is something in the game that's called "Missions" - pilot of the day/week/month - and that seems clearly designed to attempt to "reward higher tier play". Daily tasks are not called "Missions", and have nothing to do with higher tier play. And what I quoted above was Pixonic's own words, and was clearly talking about Missions, and didn't mention daily tasks.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 4, 2017 13:23:00 GMT -5
League system: There will be higher rewards for climbing to higher divisions. Pixonic is planning on taking out Missions(The daily task system that gives out 30 or 40 gold depending on the task you do). Pixonic wants the league system to do what the daily task system was originally supposed to do(reward higher tier play) but better. Missions are not the same thing as the daily tasks. They're talking about those "pilot of the day/week/month" awards. I don't think they're taking away the daily tasks, unless you have inside knowledge that differs from what's in this Pixonic blog post: warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">medium.com/ warrobots/new-matchmaking-what-it-is-all-about-and-whats-next-69698fcc7929#.uc4va5jlz " Last, but not least: we want to give you better rewards for improving. It was the initial intent of the “missions” system, but as it turned out only a small handful of people could have access to “Best pilot of the day/week/month” rewards. And those who went to the extremes and managed to do so weren’t even acknowledged as deserved. With the introduction of Leagues system, which is deeply intertwined with new matchmaking, everything is going to change." I'm reacting to the 30-40 gold task statement in the Mod's post - that is specidfically the daily tasks. It it is the POTH and those things going away (I recall Pixo saying the same thing as what you had referenced), then I'm not concerned at all. It is just unclear because task and mission are used in the same thought.
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Post by kingzam on Feb 4, 2017 13:30:36 GMT -5
Don't bother emailing pix about the game and how it sucks now, you will just get a generic reply, my whole clan got the exact same reply..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 13:50:23 GMT -5
I hope they think very carefully about the leagues and promotion / relegation between them. It can't just be on rating in a fluid way, as that will result in considerable flux (and gaming) at the boundaries. But you also can't leave people in a league when they're clearly geared for the next level (otherwise you'll get 12/12 guys sandbagging a bit so they can rule the 2nd highest league). So there needs to be a gear test and a performance test involved.
This seems very clear and I assume it will be addressed, but Pix's handling of the new MM implementation makes me concerned that they do not always have a full appreciation of the consequences (intended and unintended) of the decisions they make.
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