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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 2, 2017 11:07:02 GMT -5
Hello All,
Enjoying the game and wisdom on the wikis and this forum. My daughter and I both play and need some tips from you experts here on what the next robot move or upgrade is. We could open up the 5th bay, but I'd like to hear suggestions on what we can do with 4 bays first because not all games get to that 5th robot.
My hanger: Level 28 Playing style is more aggressive. Stalker 7 with Pinata 5, Pinata 5 Gepard 6 with Pinata 6, Pinata 7, Pinata 9 Griffin 6 with Taran 6, Taran 8, Mag 7, Mag 8 Galahad 6 with Taran 6, Mag 6, Mag 7 Possibly upgrade Gep for something that can do lots of damage like Rhino or Lancelot or Carnage? Probably not a DB Griffin since we already have one in the family (see below).
My daughter's hanger: Level 21 Playing style a medium. Does not like to snipe but maybe not right into the heart of fighting. Gepard 4 with 3x Pinata 6 Griffin 6 with Orkan 6, Tulumbas 5, Pinata 6, Pinata 7 Griffin 6 with Taran 6, Punisher (Mk2) 3, Mag 7, Punisher 6 Gareth 4 with Punisher (Mk2) 1, Punisher 6 Possibly upgrading Gep and/or Gareth for something like a Fujian or another that may fit her style? She likes the (still in process) half Plasma Griffin better than her (still in process) DB Griffin if that helps.
Thank you in advance! Slam
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Feb 2, 2017 14:21:24 GMT -5
a fifth slot to both of you; even in the new mm, 5k is still reachable (no need to go spending real $) That aside, for you, try lvling that stalker to 8, and replace those pinatas with magnums or aphids (also to lv8) geps lvl to 8, and lvl out those pinatas. No point having one really high and another doing "average" damage. If one of them pops off.. well. Griffin keep at 6 for now (unless you have a lot of ag for use), lvl those mags and tarans to lv8 Galahad's pdb, lvl up to 8 (for the near max speed and 94k hp), tarans and mags to lv8 Get a carnage or lancelot (lance after the 5th slot). Rhino isn't really needed now since the galahad has more mobility and can replace it Your daughter's hanger: if you two plan to play together, without one dragging the other: gep to lv8, pinatas get to lv8 (though geps aren't great past bronze/noob tier, better just replacing it with a stalker or gareth) First griffin: keep at lv6, swap that lv5 tulumbas for an orkan (or temporary a taran until you get enough for another orkan). "swiss army knife" bots don't really do well in actual fights. In other words, stick to one range per bot Second griffin: keep at lv6, either go all punishers (or rather don't because it's inaccurate past 200m), or all plasma (mag/taran), or even a molot griffin should do fine. It goes without saying at this point, make those weapons lv8 Gareth, mag/taran, or mag/orkan, or pinata/orkan. Though my fellow clanmate ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 might have better ideas of setups for gareth Fujin is a great bot (I keep a taran/fujin in my hanger, it's a lot of firepower with a really strong energy shield. The draw back, is with the shield up, you can't move. And when moving, the shield won't regenerate. So yea, use it strategically. Wrote this in a hurry, if there's something you don't understand, reply on this thread
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:38:02 GMT -5
In your hangar, I would consider swapping Gep for Leo, using the same pinatas + a thunder on Leo. Thats a big brawler that you make do without spending any AU or WSP. If you have plenty of AU to spend though, Lance is a lot of fun to fight with in close.
In your daughters hangar, I would suggest that you try to sync her weapon ranges - for example, that Griff would ideally wear all pins and tulus (500m range), or all Orkans and Pinatas (300m range). Mixing weapons with different ranges is not ideal.
I cannot recommend the 5th slot more highly. Even if you don't get killed off now, having the 5th slot allows you to be more aggressive, deploy more variety in your hangar, and will allow you to increase your damage and gain wins more often than you think.
Enjoy!
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 2, 2017 14:46:51 GMT -5
Just some thoughts - consider how much you paid for them and that's probably what they're worth:
I don't see a single RDB (Russian Death Button) Griffin in any of your 8 bots. 2x Tulumbas, 2x Pins, max flexibility - although the Otter said swiss army knife bots don't work, I'm sure he meant mixed loadouts don't work. The RDB Griffin can be used somewhat effectively in nearly all scenarios, and you can buy it entirely for silver (and all weapons start out at lvl 5, no time waiting to upgrade until they are close to your other weapons) - so you could actually think of it as her "swiss army knife."
Second Griffin could also be RDB for now, or even all punisher (which is pretty darned fun even if it isn't the most powerful setup).
Throw some combination of orkan/taran and magnum/pinata on her gareth - I think any of the 4 possible combos would work.
Stop spending gold until you buy the "improve everything I have by 25%" upgrade, which is of course the 5th slot. You hear a lot of zealots around offering that advice, because it's just so true. The second 5000 gold comes a lot faster if you spend the first 5000 on the 5th slot.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Feb 2, 2017 15:02:17 GMT -5
Just some thoughts - consider how much you paid for them and that's probably what they're worth: I don't see a single RDB (Russian Death Button) Griffin in any of your 8 bots. 2x Tulumbas, 2x Pins, max flexibility - although the Otter said swiss army knife bots don't work, I'm sure he meant mixed loadouts don't work. The RDB Griffin can be used somewhat effectively in nearly all scenarios, and you can buy it entirely for silver (and all weapons start out at lvl 5, no time waiting to upgrade until they are close to your other weapons) - so you could actually think of it as her "swiss army knife." Second Griffin could also be RDB for now, or even all punisher (which is pretty darned fun even if it isn't the most powerful setup). Throw some combination of orkan/taran and magnum/pinata on her gareth - I think any of the 4 possible combos would work. Stop spending gold until you buy the "improve everything I have by 25%" upgrade, which is of course the 5th slot. You hear a lot of zealots around offering that advice, because it's just so true. The second 5000 gold comes a lot faster if you spend the first 5000 on the 5th slot. What i meant by swiss army knife bots are those with multiple ranges. Like this example: a patton with 1x Noricum(900m), 1x magnum(350m), 1x gekko(1100m), 1x crv pin (500m) I've got nothing against the rdb griff, I've ran it until I got tridents onto my carnage. It's a good setup, the jump allows for higher altitudes to shoot rockets from
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 2, 2017 17:55:38 GMT -5
Sage advice gents (or ladies?) and thank you for that. We agree and will begin working in this direction!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 18:23:51 GMT -5
Just some thoughts - consider how much you paid for them and that's probably what they're worth: I don't see a single RDB (Russian Death Button) Griffin in any of your 8 bots. 2x Tulumbas, 2x Pins, max flexibility - although the Otter said swiss army knife bots don't work, I'm sure he meant mixed loadouts don't work. The RDB Griffin can be used somewhat effectively in nearly all scenarios, and you can buy it entirely for silver (and all weapons start out at lvl 5, no time waiting to upgrade until they are close to your other weapons) - so you could actually think of it as her "swiss army knife." Second Griffin could also be RDB for now, or even all punisher (which is pretty darned fun even if it isn't the most powerful setup). Throw some combination of orkan/taran and magnum/pinata on her gareth - I think any of the 4 possible combos would work. Stop spending gold until you buy the "improve everything I have by 25%" upgrade, which is of course the 5th slot. You hear a lot of zealots around offering that advice, because it's just so true. The second 5000 gold comes a lot faster if you spend the first 5000 on the 5th slot. What i meant by swiss army knife bots are those with multiple ranges. Like this example: a patton with 1x Noricum(900m), 1x magnum(350m), 1x gekko(1100m), 1x crv pin (500m) I've got nothing against the rdb griff, I've ran it until I got tridents onto my carnage. It's a good setup, the jump allows for higher altitudes to shoot rockets from You mean a 'Made in China 'Swiss'' Army Knife. Fit for all ranges but can't actually do crap
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 2, 2017 18:53:15 GMT -5
BTW, I do have a Leo 7 with Zeus 7, Gekko 6, Gekko 7, Gekko 8 in my reserve/closet. It was my first big robot build but nowadays I find it a bit ineffective compared to what I have. A have a bit of the same feeling for the Gep. Does anyone ever feel Au or Ag "remorse" for building something up that, once in higher tiers, just doesn't seem to work? Or perhaps I'm using my Laser Leo wrong....?
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Post by jckidd on Feb 2, 2017 18:58:30 GMT -5
My reply is always the same: slots before bots. Especially if you play aggressive, allows you to carry the fight longer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:01:30 GMT -5
BTW, I do have a Leo 7 with Zeus 7, Gekko 6, Gekko 7, Gekko 8 in my reserve/closet. It was my first big robot build but nowadays I find it a bit ineffective compared to what I have. A have a bit of the same feeling for the Gep. Does anyone ever feel Au or Ag "remorse" for building something up that, once in higher tiers, just doesn't seem to work? Or perhaps I'm using my Laser Leo wrong....? I believe as you read around the forum, you will find the general consensus is that there is no right way to use a Laser Leo. And yes, I bought two Gekkos when I started, and leveled them up to 6, and I do still feel sad that I could have spent the AU on something better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:02:02 GMT -5
Another viewpoint: it probably doesn't matter what you do under the current matchmaker... you can probably run any combination of odd ?poo-poo? and still end up with the same feeling of success.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Feb 2, 2017 21:15:31 GMT -5
BTW, I do have a Leo 7 with Zeus 7, Gekko 6, Gekko 7, Gekko 8 in my reserve/closet. It was my first big robot build but nowadays I find it a bit ineffective compared to what I have. A have a bit of the same feeling for the Gep. Does anyone ever feel Au or Ag "remorse" for building something up that, once in higher tiers, just doesn't seem to work? Or perhaps I'm using my Laser Leo wrong....? the tradeoff between heavies and lights is hp vs speed. Leo is literally a tank. Use him as a knifer (or put trident/crv on it for a midrange splash leo) while the zeus/gekko still works, it'll only work against unshielded and energy shield bots. Since there seems to have been an increase in physical shield bots, your lasers won't be effective until the shield pops off, or you're hitting an area that isn't protected by the shield. Regarding the remorse part, yea, happens to most (if not all) of us. Purchase something thinking it'll be good, then turns out it sucks. But at least Ag is easier to earn back rather than Au
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 2, 2017 23:26:51 GMT -5
SlamCatalina think it's really cool that you can play War Robots with your daughter. Are you on same OS? Imagine would be fun to squad with her and coordinate double-flanking plays. Two well-coordinated low-level bots can easily take down 1 stronger bot. Good post! * thumbs *
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 3, 2017 12:13:17 GMT -5
SlamCatalina think it's really cool that you can play War Robots with your daughter. Are you on same OS? Imagine would be fun to squad with her and coordinate double-flanking plays. Two well-coordinated low-level bots can easily take down 1 stronger bot. Good post! * thumbs * Thank you! Yes it is really fun but we haven't figured out how to play in the same game? Do we need to create a "clan"? Or is there another method? Us old guys aren't tech savvy:)
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Post by FunkenA on Feb 3, 2017 12:29:52 GMT -5
Slots before Bots.. Get the slot.. and galahad soon after
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 3, 2017 12:57:55 GMT -5
SlamCatalina have you unlocked the squad and clan functions? 1) link your War Robots game to your facebook accounts, you guys should appear in your 'friend' list in squad menu 2) or, join the same clan, then you can see each other in the 'clan' menu 3) or, this is probably the least effective way, since you guys are similar level, try pressing battle at the same time and hope to land in same match? Not likely to work though... suggest 1 or 2 Happy battles!
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 4, 2017 16:33:15 GMT -5
SlamCatalina have you unlocked the squad and clan functions? 1) link your War Robots game to your facebook accounts, you guys should appear in your 'friend' list in squad menu 2) or, join the same clan, then you can see each other in the 'clan' menu 3) or, this is probably the least effective way, since you guys are similar level, try pressing battle at the same time and hope to land in same match? Not likely to work though... suggest 1 or 2 Happy battles! Thank you B30RLL for the tips. We will look into it!
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 4, 2017 16:43:08 GMT -5
a fifth slot to both of you; even in the new mm, 5k is still reachable (no need to go spending real $) That aside, for you, try lvling that stalker to 8, and replace those pinatas with magnums or aphids (also to lv8) geps lvl to 8, and lvl out those pinatas. No point having one really high and another doing "average" damage. If one of them pops off.. well. Griffin keep at 6 for now (unless you have a lot of ag for use), lvl those mags and tarans to lv8 Galahad's pdb, lvl up to 8 (for the near max speed and 94k hp), tarans and mags to lv8 Get a carnage or lancelot (lance after the 5th slot). Rhino isn't really needed now since the galahad has more mobility and can replace it Your daughter's hanger: if you two plan to play together, without one dragging the other: gep to lv8, pinatas get to lv8 (though geps aren't great past bronze/noob tier, better just replacing it with a stalker or gareth) First griffin: keep at lv6, swap that lv5 tulumbas for an orkan (or temporary a taran until you get enough for another orkan). "swiss army knife" bots don't really do well in actual fights. In other words, stick to one range per bot Second griffin: keep at lv6, either go all punishers (or rather don't because it's inaccurate past 200m), or all plasma (mag/taran), or even a molot griffin should do fine. It goes without saying at this point, make those weapons lv8 Gareth, mag/taran, or mag/orkan, or pinata/orkan. Though my fellow clanmate ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 might have better ideas of setups for gareth Fujin is a great bot (I keep a taran/fujin in my hanger, it's a lot of firepower with a really strong energy shield. The draw back, is with the shield up, you can't move. And when moving, the shield won't regenerate. So yea, use it strategically. Wrote this in a hurry, if there's something you don't understand, reply on this thread I added a 5th slot to my hanger (working on my daughter's...) and I have to say the 5th slot has been a fairly significant game changer. Whoever came up with the phrase "slots before bots" was spot on. For now I have the Laser Leo in the 5th but I still can't decide on what may be my next purchase between Lancelot, Carnage, or Rhino??? The Lancelot seems well suited for my playing style by running (albeit slowly) into battle and blasting folks with big damage. But on big maps, doesn't it take forever to get into the battle? And research on this forum indicates that they are big targets for people to go after. The Carnage seems appealing due to speed into battle and decent damage. Again, research indicates if the Thunder are leveled up and you utilize hit and run, then this can be effective. Low health (esp relative to Lancelot) make it fragile, but hey, it's part of a 5 robot hanger right? Seems like it can do damage before it gets knocked out. The Rhino seems to be a popular choice but, similar to Lancelot, they are slow and folks seems to really key in on them. However, I see them in the wild causing all sorts of havoc by charging beacons and other robots...which also sounds fun! Any opinions on this matter? Thanks everyone! slam
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Feb 7, 2017 9:44:06 GMT -5
a fifth slot to both of you; even in the new mm, 5k is still reachable (no need to go spending real $) That aside, for you, try lvling that stalker to 8, and replace those pinatas with magnums or aphids (also to lv8) geps lvl to 8, and lvl out those pinatas. No point having one really high and another doing "average" damage. If one of them pops off.. well. Griffin keep at 6 for now (unless you have a lot of ag for use), lvl those mags and tarans to lv8 Galahad's pdb, lvl up to 8 (for the near max speed and 94k hp), tarans and mags to lv8 Get a carnage or lancelot (lance after the 5th slot). Rhino isn't really needed now since the galahad has more mobility and can replace it Your daughter's hanger: if you two plan to play together, without one dragging the other: gep to lv8, pinatas get to lv8 (though geps aren't great past bronze/noob tier, better just replacing it with a stalker or gareth) First griffin: keep at lv6, swap that lv5 tulumbas for an orkan (or temporary a taran until you get enough for another orkan). "swiss army knife" bots don't really do well in actual fights. In other words, stick to one range per bot Second griffin: keep at lv6, either go all punishers (or rather don't because it's inaccurate past 200m), or all plasma (mag/taran), or even a molot griffin should do fine. It goes without saying at this point, make those weapons lv8 Gareth, mag/taran, or mag/orkan, or pinata/orkan. Though my fellow clanmate ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 might have better ideas of setups for gareth Fujin is a great bot (I keep a taran/fujin in my hanger, it's a lot of firepower with a really strong energy shield. The draw back, is with the shield up, you can't move. And when moving, the shield won't regenerate. So yea, use it strategically. Wrote this in a hurry, if there's something you don't understand, reply on this thread I added a 5th slot to my hanger (working on my daughter's...) and I have to say the 5th slot has been a fairly significant game changer. Whoever came up with the phrase "slots before bots" was spot on. For now I have the Laser Leo in the 5th but I still can't decide on what may be my next purchase between Lancelot, Carnage, or Rhino??? The Lancelot seems well suited for my playing style by running (albeit slowly) into battle and blasting folks with big damage. But on big maps, doesn't it take forever to get into the battle? And research on this forum indicates that they are big targets for people to go after. The Carnage seems appealing due to speed into battle and decent damage. Again, research indicates if the Thunder are leveled up and you utilize hit and run, then this can be effective. Low health (esp relative to Lancelot) make it fragile, but hey, it's part of a 5 robot hanger right? Seems like it can do damage before it gets knocked out. The Rhino seems to be a popular choice but, similar to Lancelot, they are slow and folks seems to really key in on them. However, I see them in the wild causing all sorts of havoc by charging beacons and other robots...which also sounds fun! Any opinions on this matter? Thanks everyone! slam Rhino is kind of useless now that gala came out with more mobility Chubbs (Lance) is good against plasma, but they're big targets and the shield only covers part of the front (unless you use ancile), but it's great for rushing to mow down enemies Carnage, while some do run with thunders (which are fun), tridents and zeus are also good options (as a midranger)
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 23, 2017 11:40:01 GMT -5
Hello Forum! I've put into effect most of the advice above so thank you very much! I've enjoyed the squad battles with my daughter as well! Recently as I've moved higher, my goal is to have a "Damage Hanger" and "Speed Hanger". I have 3700 Au and 15k WP currently. Regarding the "Damage Hanger", my last 50 ave is around 3 kills and between 325-375 damage (up from 300 when I only had 4 slots). I've maxxed 921 damage. Here is where I am at:
Griffin L6 w/ Taran 8, Taran 8, Mag 7, Mag 7 Galahad L8 w/ Taran 8, Mag 8, Mag 7 Carnage L7 w/ Thunder 8, Thunder 8 Lancelot L5 w/ Thunder 5, Orkan 5, Orkan 5 Leo L7 w/ Zeus 7, Gekko 5, Gekko 6, Gekko 7
I'm currently upgrading Lancelot now, but what's the next move to maximize the "Damage Hanger"?
A. Replace Leo with something? B. Make Griffin into RDB and then move the Plasmas to a Rhino to replace Leo? C. Another Galahad or Lancelot? D. Buy nothing and just keep upgrading? E. Something else completely?
Thanks in advance, Slam
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Post by zeus on Feb 23, 2017 13:13:33 GMT -5
Hangar variety looks balanced but Leo weapons need upgrading. Might be good for killing carnages, furies and Griffins. Hangar seems slightly heavy on plasma than missiles. Might not be an issue as long as they are played well.
Bring everything to 6/8 if you're keeping them, then maybe 7/9 and then 8/9, then 9/9 or 8/10. In this current MM, bot levels don't seem to matter at all, but each level to 9 gives you much welcomed extra movement speed and all levels gives you additional health for survival. Depends on what you think you need.
If it was me, I would go tarans for Lancelot and orkan piñatas for griffin. Or both orkans. I suggest you save gold for a fury and wsp for tridents. It is a somewhat necessary mid range upgrade if you move further up.
Plasma rhino is kinda situational, only consider it if you need something to move forward on an objective. Rhinos are hard to maneuver, I move mine to a spot and park him there. You should decide if an extra Galahad or Lancelot can work out better for you through your own experiences. For me, an extra Galahad can probably do me good since it's one of my major hitters,, but I want to aim for a varied hangar with no copies.
If you're squadding, try to level your daughter's hangar the same as yours, so your game experiences won't be that far off. Have fun.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2017 14:40:54 GMT -5
Hello Forum! I've put into effect most of the advice above so thank you very much! I've enjoyed the squad battles with my daughter as well! Recently as I've moved higher, my goal is to have a "Damage Hanger" and "Speed Hanger". I have 3700 Au and 15k WP currently. Regarding the "Damage Hanger", my last 50 ave is around 3 kills and between 325-375 damage (up from 300 when I only had 4 slots). I've maxxed 921 damage. Here is where I am at: Griffin L6 w/ Taran 8, Taran 8, Mag 7, Mag 7 Galahad L8 w/ Taran 8, Mag 8, Mag 7 Carnage L7 w/ Thunder 8, Thunder 8 Lancelot L5 w/ Thunder 5, Orkan 5, Orkan 5 Leo L7 w/ Zeus 7, Gekko 5, Gekko 6, Gekko 7 I'm currently upgrading Lancelot now, but what's the next move to maximize the "Damage Hanger"? A. Replace Leo with something? B. Make Griffin into RDB and then move the Plasmas to a Rhino to replace Leo? C. Another Galahad or Lancelot? D. Buy nothing and just keep upgrading? E. Something else completely? Thanks in advance, Slam Some random thoughts and things to think about before you decide... While I love the "lazer Leo", the Gekkos and Zeus both need to be lvled at least to 8 to start seeing a real impact. With the Anciles on the rise you will prolly get some good use out of it. Mine is 9 Zeus, 9, 8,8, Gekkos and it is just now getting to be a go-to bot for those times that the Anciles abound. Plus, it's pretty good against TT Furies. The other good mid-range option for light points on the Leo is Pins. 500m splash is very nice when combined with either the Trident or the Zeus. I have seen a lot more of the Zeus+Pin config lately, I guess because it is OK against either type of shield... but not the best against either. Personally, I would stick to either all Splash or all Energy, not both. Trident Pin Leo is a staple for hangers that don't have a mid-range Carny or that only have 1 trident. However, Leo really does rock at close range, too. A lot of HP to soak up damage with. It can be tough to use it on open areas though, so try to utilize ambush and flanking tactics with it as much as possible when using it close in. Thunder and Pinatas/Mags/or Aphids are the most used configurations, but feel free to experiment.... especially in today's MM. *** Disclaimer... the next part is just to get your creative juices flowing, don't take it as a definite "you should do this", as there are many situations that would make it not that great**** Maybe try Punishers (if leveled decently) and Thunder for a change of pace... At 500m Punishers accuracy sucks, but they still hit those big ?bum-bum? energy shields and knock them down better than any other weapon, then when you get close, you add in the Thunder for an exceedingly good anti Ancile bot. Even on non Ancile bots, Punishers and thunders both perform their best at less than 150m, so all of those weapons together will chew bots up. Even physical shield bots hate that, because both types of weapon will hit pieces of the bot that are not covered by the shield, plus, it is just so much damage at once, it will chew through physical shields quicker than many weapons. Again, if close. Of course there are cons to that loadout, like being exposed longer in order to hit enough of the Punisher rounds to do some good, and the fact that you do have to be so close, you won't be out of anything's range. Beyond that, I like your setup. I like the Orks on the Lance better than Tarans... but again, sort of tough to deal with ancile bots with out energy weapons, so you just have to go by what the majority of your matches show you. If you see more physical shields than Anciles, go with the Orks. But feel free to switch out splash for energy on the Griff, Lance, and Gala to see what you like better. Griff is so versatile... all three of the popular setups are boss at any level of play. If you have a chance to look at YouTube videos, I bet I know a great playlist by a certain YouTuber that you would get a lot out of... I will post it in a bit.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2017 14:50:47 GMT -5
This is a link to tutorials by Adriannnn. Over 40 of them, with some going back a while. Especially check out the ones that pertain to the bots you already have. The great thing about any of them is that you will get tips that relate to more than one bot on most vids. The weapons are interchangeable, so the use of them is the same... the bot just determines how you get that weapon into range and how you employ it once there... Mainly I suggest this because A.) there are just a lot of good tips to soak up and B.) Before you spend too many resources in leveling, maybe seeing how these all fit in the Top Tier play will help you decide. For me, I like diversity, and changing up my hangar. But I am close to the point that I have to decide what weapons and bots to take to the top. As level costs from 9-10 start the real expensive upgrades, I want to make sure it is only the ones that I want to use all the way up that I spend on. Good luck! www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEphS-5-fynXhFj8cN_aecJ3_leEkoPb7
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SlamCatalina
Destrier
Posts: 96
Karma: 40
Pilot name: ᴄ ᴜ ↄ ᴋ ᴏ ᴏ
Platform: iOS
Clan: [•Ω•] ΩMΣGΔ
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Thunder Carnage (RIP)
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Post by SlamCatalina on Feb 23, 2017 15:26:52 GMT -5
Hello Forum! I've put into effect most of the advice above so thank you very much! I've enjoyed the squad battles with my daughter as well! Recently as I've moved higher, my goal is to have a "Damage Hanger" and "Speed Hanger". I have 3700 Au and 15k WP currently. Regarding the "Damage Hanger", my last 50 ave is around 3 kills and between 325-375 damage (up from 300 when I only had 4 slots). I've maxxed 921 damage. Here is where I am at: Griffin L6 w/ Taran 8, Taran 8, Mag 7, Mag 7 Galahad L8 w/ Taran 8, Mag 8, Mag 7 Carnage L7 w/ Thunder 8, Thunder 8 Lancelot L5 w/ Thunder 5, Orkan 5, Orkan 5 Leo L7 w/ Zeus 7, Gekko 5, Gekko 6, Gekko 7 I'm currently upgrading Lancelot now, but what's the next move to maximize the "Damage Hanger"? A. Replace Leo with something? B. Make Griffin into RDB and then move the Plasmas to a Rhino to replace Leo? C. Another Galahad or Lancelot? D. Buy nothing and just keep upgrading? E. Something else completely? Thanks in advance, Slam Some random thoughts and things to think about before you decide... While I love the "lazer Leo", the Gekkos and Zeus both need to be lvled at least to 8 to start seeing a real impact. With the Anciles on the rise you will prolly get some good use out of it. Mine is 9 Zeus, 9, 8,8, Gekkos and it is just now getting to be a go-to bot for those times that the Anciles abound. Plus, it's pretty good against TT Furies. The other good mid-range option for light points on the Leo is Pins. 500m splash is very nice when combined with either the Trident or the Zeus. I have seen a lot more of the Zeus+Pin config lately, I guess because it is OK against either type of shield... but not the best against either. Personally, I would stick to either all Splash or all Energy, not both. Trident Pin Leo is a staple for hangers that don't have a mid-range Carny or that only have 1 trident. However, Leo really does rock at close range, too. A lot of HP to soak up damage with. It can be tough to use it on open areas though, so try to utilize ambush and flanking tactics with it as much as possible when using it close in. Thunder and Pinatas/Mags/or Aphids are the most used configurations, but feel free to experiment.... especially in today's MM. *** Disclaimer... the next part is just to get your creative juices flowing, don't take it as a definite "you should do this", as there are many situations that would make it not that great**** Maybe try Punishers (if leveled decently) and Thunder for a change of pace... At 500m Punishers accuracy sucks, but they still hit those big ?bum-bum? energy shields and knock them down better than any other weapon, then when you get close, you add in the Thunder for an exceedingly good anti Ancile bot. Even on non Ancile bots, Punishers and thunders both perform their best at less than 150m, so all of those weapons together will chew bots up. Even physical shield bots hate that, because both types of weapon will hit pieces of the bot that are not covered by the shield, plus, it is just so much damage at once, it will chew through physical shields quicker than many weapons. Again, if close. Of course there are cons to that loadout, like being exposed longer in order to hit enough of the Punisher rounds to do some good, and the fact that you do have to be so close, you won't be out of anything's range. Beyond that, I like your setup. I like the Orks on the Lance better than Tarans... but again, sort of tough to deal with ancile bots with out energy weapons, so you just have to go by what the majority of your matches show you. If you see more physical shields than Anciles, go with the Orks. But feel free to switch out splash for energy on the Griff, Lance, and Gala to see what you like better. Griff is so versatile... all three of the popular setups are boss at any level of play. If you have a chance to look at YouTube videos, I bet I know a great playlist by a certain YouTuber that you would get a lot out of... I will post it in a bit. Laser Leo: Interesting take! I have been feeling like it isn't particularly effective because of the low damage, but perhaps if I level it up I may change my mind and keep Laser Leo in that 5th slot. Lancelot: Yes, run into Gareths, Lances, and a lot of Galahads so the Orkans do nice damage. I'm sure as I upgrade it over the next week or 2, it will be very dangerous. As it is now in "baby" form, it still deals damage nicely for my "Damage Hanger"! Griffin: Also, interesting is your thought on the Griffin. Like you, I enjoy the versatility, but it sure gets shot up quick. If I level that up as well like you said, maybe it will last longer and, therefore, do more damage and be more useful. (Rhino): It seemed like this was the alpha boy of years past but does not get love nowadays. I understand it isn't the giant it once was, but with the shield and durability, couldn't this be viewed as a non-jumping tanky Griffin? When I see Rhinos in the wild, they do die eventually, but they are a tough out. Slam
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2017 16:23:58 GMT -5
Rhinos are good... hell, great, at what they do. But, they are VERY hard to learn... so if you commit... prepare to be frustrated at first. There are a few threads here that discuss the factors involved in detail... try a search for rhino, or if you don't see anything like tips or tutorials for it, let me know and I'll point you in the right direction.
Griffin is fragile, but soooo much firepower. The trick to the Griff is the jump. Makes it the best bot in the game for Ag cost... and is competitive with all other bots. The jump is key though, can't say that enough. I'll post a link to a must see video on Griff use.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 23, 2017 16:29:06 GMT -5
DB Griff Gameplay and Tutorial:
PDB Griff Gameplay and Tutorial:
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