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Post by zr on Jan 30, 2017 23:49:02 GMT -5
Hi, Help with Hanger please. Been playing about 6 weeks, so a Noob really. Have worked hard to get gold and don,t want to waste it. I have 6200 gold. Have 5th slot, 1 Orkan. 1 lvl 3 Gepard. Current Hanger 1 Boa lvl 4,Thunder/Orkan 7/6 1 Boa lvl 5, Thunder/Taran 7/8 1 Griffin lvl 6, 2 Pinta/2 Taran 7/6 2 leo lvl 6, 3 Mags/Thunder 8/7 Not sure what to do now? Aphid Gepard, Galahad, Lancelot, another Griffin? ? With new MM really lost now. I can earn gold with this Hanger. But the Boa,s seem weak. Facing alot of lvl 10 bots lvl 9/10 weapons. Thanks in advance, Hope this tread makes sense. First thread
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Post by zr on Jan 31, 2017 3:28:27 GMT -5
P.s I want to lvl Bots nearer to weapons level. but I don,t know which Bots to level up if I going to need to buy new Bots. I had medium hanger lvl 4 bots before but once new MM came the medium bots with level 7 weapons got smashed to pieces. Hard to know what Bots to buy as cannot test first. Me and my Griffin are not getting on well, I need practice. I don,t do long range weapons
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 31, 2017 3:31:12 GMT -5
Get another orkan to replace the tarans you have in your griffin, it should help it. Replace one Leo with a Plasmahad ( Galahad taran Magnum ). The other Leo should be trident/pin so it can do something. It's up to you for the rest. You wasted 1200 gold for orkans 5000 left, remove 2500 for Galahad 2500 gold left so don't worry about that it's worth it. Let me explain: So you remove the tarans to replace with orkans to match firepower with piñatas. You got a Galahad you already have 2 extra tarans so put the highest lvl for your Galahad then 2 magnums by removing two by the Leo to make it Plasmahad You remove the Leo that you remove the magnums, then replace it with Plasmahad The other Leo should be a trident pin Leo to counter those mid Rangers It's up to you for the rest goodluck God bless
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Post by DogTrail on Jan 31, 2017 4:46:35 GMT -5
Is the 1 Orkan you mentioned in storage, or the same one that is on the Boa?
IMO keep the Leo's, turn one into a Trident/PIN as suggested. Build a DB Griff, also as suggested. Buy a Galahad to replace a Boa (the one that lost an Orkan, if it's one and the same). If you have enough WSP for a Carnage, you can get one, replace the Boa with it, take the 2 of your L7 Thunders (you should have 3 by now in storage). It can later be used with dual Tridents, once you have something better to replace your Leo's with.
What other bots do you have? If you play a lot, then you might be earning coins at a good rate. If so, try to hold off buying a second Galahad or any other Britbot while the event is in effect.
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Post by zr on Jan 31, 2017 5:49:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the help.
Ok, bought a Galahad, no Trident yet, so put a Kang Dae and 3 Cvr pins on the leo, already had these lvl 5 K Dae/ Pins level 6 (never tried this setup just to test) Only 1 Orkan on the Boa, so would have to buy 1 more Orkan for the Griff, and the other leo with Mags/Pinta/Thun
Other Bots, Gepard lvl 3, Vityaz lvl 4, Golem lvl 4, Patton lvl 3
Workshop points 4000
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 31, 2017 7:17:11 GMT -5
I'd suggest to wait next time until you have a few answers But you won't regret buying a Galahad, that's for sure. Still, it would have made more sense to wait out the event, just in case you win one. Forget about the Gepard, it's outclassed now. Leo is more a smashmouth robot, for midrange and longrange I'd prefer (among the AG heavies) a Trident/Zeus Natasha, or Nashorn until you have Tridents. Leo works best with Pinata/Thunder or Magnum/Thunder setup. Carnage and Rhino are nice buys once you have enough Magnums and Tarans. Most people suggest to go weapons before robots with WSP points, but this is in part due to the old matchmaking penalty that no longer applies. Your hangar suggests that you are not a fan of midrange, so I wouldn't worry about Tridents and get a Thunder Carnage or a Rhino first.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Jan 31, 2017 8:56:31 GMT -5
Maybe put the orkan on your shiny new Galahad and run it with pinatas for some "right hand smack." Consider putting 2 magnums with your two tarans on existing Griffin, and 2 of those pins with a pair of Tulumbas on another Griffin. For the price of a little more silver you would then have two proven setups (RDB and PDB Griffins) to try out. The RDB Griffin gives you much more effective midrange than kangdae/pin Leo in terms of both mobility and damage. The PDB Griffin is an opportunist's setup but don't try to stand and fight with it, because it won't take many punches. You could run Leos as Thunder/pinata or even thunder/punisher builds until you have more magnums.
You might want to experiment with a hangar like that before committing any more gold or WSP, just to get a feel for what direction you would enjoy going towards in the future.
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Post by zr on Jan 31, 2017 10:14:52 GMT -5
Thanks for all the reply's. The Galahad will suit my play style. Think I will play out the event, save workshop points. I have 6 Mags, 3 tarans, 1 Orkan, 6 Thunders, 6 CRV Pins, 6 Pinata, 4 Tulu I will play around with this lot see what I like?
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Post by brudeldischarge on Jan 31, 2017 21:58:22 GMT -5
I would suggest Lvling up weapons and botz wait and see at least a week to see what hap?pens with mm b4 buying any more botz also there really new weapons coming for knife fighting so having some banked wouldn't hurt.Join a clan as well if you haven't yet. R3p2 will get you the clan I'm in if you need a helpful clan.
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Post by DogTrail on Jan 31, 2017 23:02:48 GMT -5
MM won't be having any significant changes until V2.6. The tiers we had over the weekend was just a result of the MM server crashing, so they loaded the old one temporarily.
Anyhow, you have a pretty good weapon set to play around with, especially if you get a second Orkan. Lots of setups for you to try. I also agree that if you can't build a Trident/PIN Leo, then go for an RDB Griffin instead. I think the damage potential of the Trident/PIN Leo is higher, though, but the RDB Griffin is good practice for a full DB Griffin in the future. Since you can build that RDB Griffin, save the WSP for a Thunder Carnage instead.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Feb 1, 2017 18:00:48 GMT -5
Is the 1 Orkan you mentioned in storage, or the same one that is on the Boa? IMO keep the Leo's, turn one into a Trident/PIN as suggested. Build a DB Griff, also as suggested. Buy a Galahad to replace a Boa (the one that lost an Orkan, if it's one and the same). If you have enough WSP for a Carnage, you can get one, replace the Boa with it, take the 2 of your L7 Thunders (you should have 3 by now in storage). It can later be used with dual Tridents, once you have something better to replace your Leo's with. What other bots do you have? If you play a lot, then you might be earning coins at a good rate. If so, try to hold off buying a second Galahad or any other Britbot while the event is in effect. Yes I'm saying that orkan in the storage
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 18:11:59 GMT -5
Cannot go wrong with buying a Galahad. Great swiss army bot, can do a little bit of everything well. That said, you will likely never regret having more Orkans.
Whenever I spend something hard to come by like WSP or AU, I always ask myself if it is solving a problem for my current hangar, or for the hangar I am building for the future. I try to focus these purchases with future builds in mind.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Feb 1, 2017 18:21:53 GMT -5
Galahad? No question, it's great ( in which Adrian said to be the best bot for gold ) orkans? Best wep for Gold so both are good
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Post by [ധ¡к¡] oDDD on Feb 1, 2017 18:26:17 GMT -5
Only read OP and I'm sure a lot of said already. GALAHAD, try 1 out first. If you really love it, get another. If it's not your fav, you will still see that 1 is a great backbone for any hangar type. I pilot 2 and never regret ed buying 2. Only bot I never take out my 2 gals. Other 3 change all the time. If you like just the 1. Get yourself up to 4 orks. As 2 DB griffs is powerful I a single match. Get good with Galahad before you start Lance.
I run zeus carnage 2 plasmahads and 2 aphid ork griffs at 8/8 and get good solid matchmaking. Lots of damage potential and many roles filled across the board.
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Feb 1, 2017 19:06:34 GMT -5
Ah that explains it. I'm gonna get me 4th slot ( stupid mistake buying gepard instead ) then Galahad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:30:14 GMT -5
Get: Pinata Thunder Leo Magnum Taran Griffin or buy a Galahad and put the plasma on it Buy two tridents and use a Trident Pin Natasha or a Trident Carnage Level a Russian Griffin Put your two Orkans on a Griffin along with 2 Pinatas
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Post by frunobulax on Feb 2, 2017 3:54:15 GMT -5
I would suggest Lvling up weapons and botz wait and see at least a week to see what hap?pens with mm b4 buying any more botz also there really new weapons coming for knife fighting so having some banked wouldn't hurt.Join a clan as well if you haven't yet. R3p2 will get you the clan I'm in if you need a helpful clan. I'd prefer advice to be a bit more specific Nobody knows which changes we'll see in matchmaking. Right now it appears that medium robots are phased out, as Leos are better than Boas, Griffins better than Pattons, Natasha better than Golem or Vityaz. As Griffins are popular in several different matchups I suggest use 3-4 heavy robots (one midrange) and 1-2 beacon cappers (Gahalad counts as beacon runner ). A good example setup with what you have would be Plasma Galahad, DB Griff, Plasma/Thunder Leo, Pinata/Aphid Thunder Leo and a Thunder or Zeus Carnage (seems you have enough Tarans and Mags, and since the RDB Griff is a decent midranger you could make a Carnage your next WSP buy, but silver alternatives are Trident Pin Natasha, another Plasma or DB Griff, or maybe even a Nashorn Pin Natasha), depending on whether you prefer one or two midrangers. (Check robot setups for more inspiration). The question is also on how many weapons and robots you want to level. I toyed with the thought of determining my target hangar and level only those weapons that are in there, but in the end I chose to level a few robots and weapons even if I know that I won't use them forever, but only to level 6-7 or so. In the global scheme of things and with upgrades taking several days, a few days invested in auxilary robots won't hurt that much. Still, if you want to optimize precious upgrade time: You can safely level all weapons in any case, as levelling robots is much faster and you can catch up later. As for robots, it is likely that at least one Galahad and one Griffin will be in your lineup for a long time, so it's rather safe to level them up to 8 (your weapon level). If you go with the hangar I suggested above, I'd target level 7 for all robots, level 8 for all weapons, then level 8 for the robots that have a future (Galahad, one Griff, one Leo, Carnage if you go that way). Next gold buy should be at least one Orkan, two Orkans are really the minimum for a decent hangar.
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Post by zr on Feb 8, 2017 5:36:34 GMT -5
Hi again, I like to update threads I start. Here it is so far.
I have, 3x Griffin lvl6 2x Leo, lvl 6 1x Galahad lvl 7
Hanger at the moment.
1x Leo Plasma/Thunder weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Plasma weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Tulu/Pins weapons lvl 5 1x Griff Orkan/Pinta weapons lvl 7 1x Galahad Plasma weapons lvl 8
Gold, 3200 Wsp,13000 Silver 230 M
Still buy the Carnage? Carnage seems to get killed easy? (or is that bad pilots)
Thanks for any new input.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 8, 2017 8:43:36 GMT -5
Hi again, I like to update threads I start. Here it is so far. I have, 3x Griffin lvl6 2x Leo, lvl 6 1x Galahad lvl 7 Hanger at the moment. 1x Leo Plasma/Thunder weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Plasma weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Tulu/Pins weapons lvl 5 1x Griff Orkan/Pinta weapons lvl 7 1x Galahad Plasma weapons lvl 8 Gold, 3200 Wsp,13000 Silver 230 M Still buy the Carnage? Carnage seems to get killed easy? (or is that bad pilots) Thanks for any new input. I prefer saving WSP for rhino, moving your plasma from PDB griffin to rhino. Also consider pairing aphids with the orkans on your DB griffin. You already have a nicely effective hangar imo - I think those 2 changes would help further round out your capabilities without any decrease in what you're already bringing to the table.
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Post by zr on Feb 8, 2017 9:03:28 GMT -5
Hi again, I like to update threads I start. Here it is so far. I have, 3x Griffin lvl6 2x Leo, lvl 6 1x Galahad lvl 7 Hanger at the moment. 1x Leo Plasma/Thunder weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Plasma weapons lvl 7 1x Griff Tulu/Pins weapons lvl 5 1x Griff Orkan/Pinta weapons lvl 7 1x Galahad Plasma weapons lvl 8 Gold, 3200 Wsp,13000 Silver 230 M Still buy the Carnage? Carnage seems to get killed easy? (or is that bad pilots) Thanks for any new input. I prefer saving WSP for rhino, moving your plasma from PDB griffin to rhino. Also consider pairing aphids with the orkans on your DB griffin. You already have a nicely effective hangar imo - I think those 2 changes would help further round out your capabilities without any decrease in what you're already bringing to the table.
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Post by zr on Feb 8, 2017 9:06:32 GMT -5
I have 1 Aphids, so only need to buy 1. Think I will save up 15,000 WSP then decide after the event finishes and may changes to MM by the end of the month
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Post by Dejnov on Feb 8, 2017 9:15:45 GMT -5
This is a solid hangar and can do well. You have 4 heavies and 1 medium beacon runner (though the Griffs are sort of in between). All of the Griff combos and the Galahad are in the meta, with only the Leo being a Boa type upgrade. The only issue is that you have too much plasma and not enough splash... you may want to add more splash.
The best weapons for high tier play are Orkans, Tridents, and possibly Aphids... you have to have these covered. (Tulumba pin combos are also Top Tier also but are cheap to get)
My suggestion is to either replace the plasma on the Leo or the Grifffin with splash (shorts or mid-range) or commit one to are Trident Carnage in the long slog to a Fury. The only other change is possibly adding a Lancelot, but I've seen many TT all Griffin hangars also so you could run what you have to TT.
Dejnov
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Post by zr on Feb 8, 2017 9:22:33 GMT -5
I am trying more splash at the moment, took the medium range Griff out (don,t like medium range much) replaced it with the second Leo with Thunder/Pinata
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Post by buzzard on Feb 8, 2017 12:34:01 GMT -5
Nice hangar. Can lvl up a bit, but eventually replace Leo with orkan ancilot or thunder orkan lance.
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Post by DogTrail on Feb 8, 2017 22:57:37 GMT -5
I suggest doing a more even upgrade pattern between bots and weapons - 7/7, 8/8, 9/9, etc. Especially since you're running 3 Griffins and a Leo, upgrading them to 9 gives you much better speed than at L6 (I think max speed is still attained at L9). The old adage of keeping weapons 2 levels above bots doesn't seem to work as well as it used to.
If you want a Carnage, I suggest you use it with Tridents and replace your RDB Griffin. If you last too long in an RDB Griffin, it actually kind of holds back your damage potential because the Tulu reload time is so long.
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Post by zr on Feb 8, 2017 23:06:14 GMT -5
DogTrail I did find that the RDB Griffin was a bit slow, so I replaced it with a Leo Thunder/Pinata for now weapons all Lvl 7 Think I will lvl up 1 Griffin for now and level all weapons to 8, then lvl some bots. I will have 15,000 WSP in 2 days time
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Post by brudeldischarge on Feb 8, 2017 23:11:31 GMT -5
I would suggest Lvling up weapons and botz wait and see at least a week to see what hap?pens with mm b4 buying any more botz also there really new weapons coming for knife fighting so having some banked wouldn't hurt.Join a clan as well if you haven't yet. R3p2 will get you the clan I'm in if you need a helpful clan. I'd prefer advice to be a bit more specific Nobody knows which changes we'll see in matchmaking. Right now it appears that medium robots are phased out, as Leos are better than Boas, Griffins better than Pattons, Natasha better than Golem or Vityaz. As Griffins are popular in several different matchups I suggest use 3-4 heavy robots (one midrange) and 1-2 beacon cappers (Gahalad counts as beacon runner ). A good example setup with what you have would be Plasma Galahad, DB Griff, Plasma/Thunder Leo, Pinata/Aphid Thunder Leo and a Thunder or Zeus Carnage (seems you have enough Tarans and Mags, and since the RDB Griff is a decent midranger you could make a Carnage your next WSP buy, but silver alternatives are Trident Pin Natasha, another Plasma or DB Griff, or maybe even a Nashorn Pin Natasha), depending on whether you prefer one or two midrangers. (Check robot setups for more inspiration). The question is also on how many weapons and robots you want to level. I toyed with the thought of determining my target hangar and level only those weapons that are in there, but in the end I chose to level a few robots and weapons even if I know that I won't use them forever, but only to level 6-7 or so. In the global scheme of things and with upgrades taking several days, a few days invested in auxilary robots won't hurt that much. Still, if you want to optimize precious upgrade time: You can safely level all weapons in any case, as levelling robots is much faster and you can catch up later. As for robots, it is likely that at least one Galahad and one Griffin will be in your lineup for a long time, so it's rather safe to level them up to 8 (your weapon level). If you go with the hangar I suggested above, I'd target level 7 for all robots, level 8 for all weapons, then level 8 for the robots that have a future (Galahad, one Griff, one Leo, Carnage if you go that way). Next gold buy should be at least one Orkan, two Orkans are really the minimum for a decent hangar. Fine get Leos don't lvl them get 3 mags on each lvl to 12 and ecc shield to lvl 9 min....as they seem to be the new gepard
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Post by zr on Feb 12, 2017 6:00:02 GMT -5
Back again, end of event, I won 1 Zeus and a 1 Gekko? Do I discard or fit them in to my Hanger? At the moment have made a Med range leo (sort of} Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Hanger at the moment, 1x plasma Griffin 1x orkan/Aphids Griffin (want to keep) 1x plasma Galahad (want to keep) 1x Leo 2x mag/Thunder/Pinata 1x leo Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Gold 5000 WSP 17000
Main reason for asking is not to waste time leveling up the wrong set up.
Thanks
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Feb 12, 2017 6:04:53 GMT -5
Back again, end of event, I won 1 Zeus and a 1 Gekko? Do I discard or fit them in to my Hanger? At the moment have made a Med range leo (sort of} Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Hanger at the moment, 1x plasma Griffin 1x orkan/Aphids Griffin (want to keep) 1x plasma Galahad (want to keep) 1x Leo 2x mag/Thunder/Pinata 1x leo Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Gold 5000 WSP 17000 Main reason for asking is not to waste time leveling up the wrong set up. Thanks You can shelf the Gekko, it's pretty useless by itself. The Zeus will be useful tho.
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Post by moody on Feb 12, 2017 18:50:11 GMT -5
Back again, end of event, I won 1 Zeus and a 1 Gekko? Do I discard or fit them in to my Hanger? At the moment have made a Med range leo (sort of} Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Hanger at the moment, 1x plasma Griffin 1x orkan/Aphids Griffin (want to keep) 1x plasma Galahad (want to keep) 1x Leo 2x mag/Thunder/Pinata 1x leo Zues/Gekko/2x CVR Pins Gold 5000 WSP 17000 Main reason for asking is not to waste time leveling up the wrong set up. Thanks Gekko can have a psychological effect. I also assume (not having one) that It can also let you know that if you fire everything else they are going to hit. (if you have a tiny little phone screen). It will also tell you if you are hitting a shield bot and need a different target for the zeus.
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