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Post by boomsplat on Jan 30, 2017 11:49:02 GMT -5
The forum is littered with questions about whether to save for the fifth slot because it is so hard or buy something now. Just lost a match in H6-11 bot territory and the deciding factor was my team had 3 players with 4 slot hangers and the red team had all but 1 with 5 slot hangers. when we pushed and took 4 out of 5 beacons with 5 players at the 5 minute point after being down 4 beacons, I was happy.....when our bots died after the push and red had only 3 players left but only I came back, I started to get a sinking feeling. Red pushed and I went down fighting...and lost on beacons. so if you want to be competitive as you climb in strength, that 5th slot is critical. A lot of these players in this match are stronger than I am but that 5th bot equals a lot of damage potential which equals wins (i.e. Gold) and silver. so still your choice, but it never gets any easier to save for that 5th slot...do it now. Your teammates will thank you down the road. Just a friendly public message from the "5th Slot Is Important" lobby.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Jan 30, 2017 13:44:51 GMT -5
Adding to boomsplat's point here: Many players mention, when considering a fifth slot, that they already are able to last an entire 10-minute match with only 4 slots.
To that I say: I could last the entire match on 1 bot, but I wouldn't contribute nearly as much to the win as I can with 5 slots. Put all 5 robots into play and engage to the maximum extent possible. You can take more beacons and inflict more damage when you are more willing to mix it up. 25% more slots means 25% more opportunity to influence the match without worrying as much about your damage exposure. Upgrading to gold-purchased weapons won't make your entire hangar 25% more effective because the weapons aren't 25% better. The same is true for upgrading bots, except that there is even less advantage moving from silver to gold bots than there is with weapons (esp. orkan).
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 30, 2017 14:00:03 GMT -5
Don't forget the variety. 5th slot means, you can add another tactic you can resort to.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 30, 2017 14:16:57 GMT -5
Don't forget the variety. 5th slot means, you can add another tactic you can resort to. and tactics are all over this game as you can use any bot if you have the monez.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 30, 2017 14:20:22 GMT -5
Don't forget the variety. 5th slot means, you can add another tactic you can resort to. and tactics are all over this game as you can use any bot if you have the monez. Or the patience to farm. Wich brings us back to the 5th slot, since farming is way easier with five bots.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 30, 2017 14:21:01 GMT -5
and tactics are all over this game as you can use any bot if you have the monez. Or the patience to farm. Wich brings us back to the 5th slot, since farming is way easier with five bots. True
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Jan 30, 2017 14:21:32 GMT -5
5th slot for life homie!!! SINCO EL SLOTO POR VIDA LOCO... NO ABLA ESPANOL
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Post by critter667 on Jan 30, 2017 14:28:45 GMT -5
4th and 5th slot are both vital. I have started looking at my opponents and the number that have only 3 slots amazes me. Those extra slots are key. Even if it is a light bot, one more chance to capture beacons.
I can't wait for a 5th slot to give me a bot with mid to long ranges.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Jan 30, 2017 14:35:24 GMT -5
Try a RDB Griffin. 500m range and flexible. I always smile, when the situation allows me to choose it.
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Post by blastronaut on Jan 30, 2017 14:51:16 GMT -5
Yeah 5th slot is vital now. In old silver tier I could get 10 gold sometimes using just 1 or two bots from a four slot hangar. The new MM has turning into a slugfest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 15:27:12 GMT -5
I found, after getting the 5th slot, that the competition became obscenely difficult. I'd rather the 5k back and buy some better bots. Have a stable core of 2 - 3 gold / wsp bots, then work towards the 5th slot. Using AG bots against shed loads of shield bots, aphid monkeys, etc is hard hard work.
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 16:45:42 GMT -5
I have discovered how to survive some full matches with only one bot, using mid range and sneaking around. However, that always lands me in 4/5/6th spot for damage and beacons. It's just not what this game is all about.
My normal game may be 4 bots average (3 deaths), but depending on the map I could take out a midrange instead of a knifer. For the games (that happens about one in four) that I go through 4 bots - even a midrange is more useful than nothing at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 17:12:46 GMT -5
I usually use all 5 in TT play. All mine are setup for close range fighting. The first one I drop has a specific task, once it has completed the task, it's either destroyed or I eject cause there's not much left of it. My 2 through 5 each are for varying situations and any could be dropped, depending on what's going on and what I think I need at the time. Sometimes I pick wrong one, but I just go get another one. I like to brawl, not really a hide and seek type of fighter. If my weapons aren't firing, I'm not fighting.. Hmm. War Robots, not fighting, something wrong with that scenario.
Granted the way I play, sometimes will get me in trouble. I do employ a strategy, but its my warped version of one. It works for me. So if your a brawler go for 5.
Also if I'm going up against a full team of the top clans, like War, Tech, Prostars to name a few. I want 10 bots.
But, hey I'm blowing up bots and having fun.
Old man
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Post by blastronaut on Jan 30, 2017 19:51:04 GMT -5
I have discovered how to survive some full matches with only one bot, using mid range and sneaking around. However, that always lands me in 4/5/6th spot for damage and beacons. It's just not what this game is all about. My normal game may be 4 bots average (3 deaths), but depending on the map I could take out a midrange instead of a knifer. For the games (that happens about one in four) that I go through 4 bots - even a midrange is more useful than nothing at the end. Having a relatively fast midrange bot is great at the end. You can cap beacons in an emergency and do damage from a distance. If you are winning its useful to rack up extra damage before the match ends.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Jan 31, 2017 4:02:21 GMT -5
I thought "slots before bots" was an established norm by now, at least for players who actually do their "homeworks" and found the forum within their first month of playing?
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Post by Deadalready on Jan 31, 2017 6:25:22 GMT -5
One of the things that's not evident early game and late game is how even the toughest bots die instantly in High Silver and above. Weapons seem to outpace health, so in the higher levels even the most meaty of bots don't last more than a few seconds under fire...
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Post by SATmaster728 on Jan 31, 2017 7:39:54 GMT -5
I found, after getting the 5th slot, that the competition became obscenely difficult. I'd rather the 5k back and buy some better bots. Have a stable core of 2 - 3 gold / wsp bots, then work towards the 5th slot. Using AG bots against shed loads of shield bots, aphid monkeys, etc is hard hard work. that is what i have in my hanger. 2 gold bots, 2 workshop point bots. My fifth slot i will probally put another midrange or a knifer
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Post by BlackGrouse on Jan 31, 2017 8:09:16 GMT -5
so if you want to be competitive as you climb in strength, that 5th slot is critical. Indeed ! It is long road to get that 5th slot, but at the end when you buy that slot you will never regret it ! I remember that my damage average started to clime up slowly after I purchased 5th slot. However, now I have been making damage record only with three robots only, but it is still good to know you have robots left. 5th slot gives more diversity especially when playing in random teams.
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Post by whatttupG on Jan 31, 2017 12:50:27 GMT -5
The forum is littered with questions about whether to save for the fifth slot because it is so hard or buy something now. Just lost a match in H6-11 bot territory and the deciding factor was my team had 3 players with 4 slot hangers and the red team had all but 1 with 5 slot hangers. when we pushed and took 4 out of 5 beacons with 5 players at the 5 minute point after being down 4 beacons, I was happy.....when our bots died after the push and red had only 3 players left but only I came back, I started to get a sinking feeling. Red pushed and I went down fighting...and lost on beacons. so if you want to be competitive as you climb in strength, that 5th slot is critical. A lot of these players in this match are stronger than I am but that 5th bot equals a lot of damage potential which equals wins (i.e. Gold) and silver. so still your choice, but it never gets any easier to save for that 5th slot...do it now. Your teammates will thank you down the road. Just a friendly public message from the "5th Slot Is Important" lobby. I confess I am possibly one of the litter bugs you reference. It is true that the road to 5k in gold seems so near impossible that yes, it begs the question. I will inform that I have resisted the urge to spend and taking the advice given I hope to save up for the last slot. Not sure if I will ever get there, pretty sure I won't have much to put in it, but quite sure that most feel this is the right thing to do. Now if this stupid MM pounding will level out and let me play with other guys at my level, maybe I'll make it by years end (rolleyes).
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 31, 2017 13:20:06 GMT -5
The forum is littered with questions about whether to save for the fifth slot because it is so hard or buy something now. Just lost a match in H6-11 bot territory and the deciding factor was my team had 3 players with 4 slot hangers and the red team had all but 1 with 5 slot hangers. when we pushed and took 4 out of 5 beacons with 5 players at the 5 minute point after being down 4 beacons, I was happy.....when our bots died after the push and red had only 3 players left but only I came back, I started to get a sinking feeling. Red pushed and I went down fighting...and lost on beacons. so if you want to be competitive as you climb in strength, that 5th slot is critical. A lot of these players in this match are stronger than I am but that 5th bot equals a lot of damage potential which equals wins (i.e. Gold) and silver. so still your choice, but it never gets any easier to save for that 5th slot...do it now. Your teammates will thank you down the road. Just a friendly public message from the "5th Slot Is Important" lobby. I confess I am possibly one of the litter bugs you reference. It is true that the road to 5k in gold seems so near impossible that yes, it begs the question. I will inform that I have resisted the urge to spend and taking the advice given I hope to save up for the last slot. Not sure if I will ever get there, pretty sure I won't have much to put in it, but quite sure that most feel this is the right thing to do. Now if this stupid MM pounding will level out and let me play with other guys at my level, maybe I'll make it by years end (rolleyes). Hey whatup, my comment wasn't meant to call anyone out but hopefully people who search for 5th hanger will find the thread. It takes forever to get to 5k Au....but it is worth it for all the reasons listed. cheers!
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Post by whatttupG on Feb 2, 2017 15:13:00 GMT -5
I confess I am possibly one of the litter bugs you reference. It is true that the road to 5k in gold seems so near impossible that yes, it begs the question. I will inform that I have resisted the urge to spend and taking the advice given I hope to save up for the last slot. Not sure if I will ever get there, pretty sure I won't have much to put in it, but quite sure that most feel this is the right thing to do. Now if this stupid MM pounding will level out and let me play with other guys at my level, maybe I'll make it by years end (rolleyes). Hey whatup, my comment wasn't meant to call anyone out but hopefully people who search for 5th hanger will find the thread. It takes forever to get to 5k Au....but it is worth it for all the reasons listed. cheers! No problem whatsoever, I totally came with questions and slot 5 is a huge one. With less bot and weapon than either red or blue, it's a tough road saving 5k while you're getting throttled in game and am little help to your blues. Still, everyone advises this so I'm doing my best to stick to it. I know the level of my stuff is basically my fault, but the timing of 2.5 caught me off guard and now I'm really sideways to how I probably should have done this. Eventually I can level out my issues on upgrades but the point of this thread still remains and gold problems are kind of different than silver problems anyways. Just shut it and save would be fine advice to me, I'd even honor a "you'll thank me later".
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Post by darkshogun on Feb 4, 2017 17:00:00 GMT -5
Ok, I understand why and how important is the 5 th slot. But will i got stronger enemies if i open the 5 th slot? My weapons are only lvl 5-8. i am ok and usually won in battle in this lvl, but in higher tier I will lose.
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Post by boomsplat on Feb 4, 2017 17:06:06 GMT -5
Ok, I understand why and how important is the 5 th slot. But will i got stronger enemies if i open the 5 th slot? My weapons are only lvl 5-8. i am ok and usually won in battle in this lvl, but in higher tier I will lose. We do not know how Pixo is calculating hanger strength but the number of hanger slots has never been a factor in the old system and can't see how they would make it a factor in the new system. That would dissuade people from that 5th slot and there is no reason why they would want to do that.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 5, 2017 10:41:41 GMT -5
83 days with just dailies, 60 Au/day. Do them every day.
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