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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 30, 2017 1:09:10 GMT -5
Ive now lost 20% of win rate. 76% to 56% in 1 「fluffernutter」ing day! B U L L 「poo-poo」 ! !
My level 6 bots can not stand up to lvl 10-12 bots when I LOSE
I earn nothing when we win because I keep getting destroyed before I get close 600k to score any 「fluffernutter」ing gold. This is absolutely rediculous!!
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drjackal
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Pilot name: -:Dr. Jackal:-
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Post by drjackal on Jan 30, 2017 1:25:25 GMT -5
Take it easy. I know that the first days of the new MM aren't easy but believe me. It get's better. I also fell down from a 70% win rate to below 45%. But now, after I changed my hanger and started leveling my bots it is slowly going up again (68% at this moment).
I'm still outclassed from time to time but not very often and in return the matches are much more challenging.
Patience, old chap.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Jan 30, 2017 2:39:58 GMT -5
Take it easy. I know that the first days of the new MM aren't easy but believe me. It get's better. I also fell down from a 70% win rate to below 45%. But now, after I changed my hanger and started leveling my bots it is slowly going up again (68% at this moment). I'm still outclassed from time to time but not very often and in return the matches are much more challenging. Patience, old chap. I appreciate what you are saying, but it is not like I am a casual player. My 10 day ave is 950 cups. I have over 3000 victories in less than 9 months. Attachment DeletedThis was from my last match: Attachment DeletedThe leader of their pack: Attachment DeletedMy bots are level 6 with 8-9 weps. Things were very challenging last few days until today. I adjusted and pushed through. I did see TT hangers on routine basis, now it is the norm for my battles! I have increased my playing over past few days because of the event, so if anything I should have more consistent play. The 27 & 28 were not this bad for me. I figured I would get hit pretty hard running in mid-high 70's for past few days, but this is not even a game any more.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Jan 30, 2017 3:03:24 GMT -5
Ive now lost 20% of win rate. 76% to 56% in 1 ?firetruck?ing day! B U L L 「poo-poo」 ! ! My level 6 bots can not stand up to lvl 10-12 bots when I LOSE I earn nothing when we win because I keep getting destroyed before I get close 600k to score any ?firetruck?ing gold. This is absolutely rediculous!! What hanger are you running? If you havr lvl 6 bots suggest level them up to your weapon levels.
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Post by boomsplat on Jan 30, 2017 9:10:46 GMT -5
Ive now lost 20% of win rate. 76% to 56% in 1 ?firetruck?ing day! B U L L 「poo-poo」 ! ! My level 6 bots can not stand up to lvl 10-12 bots when I LOSE I earn nothing when we win because I keep getting destroyed before I get close 600k to score any ?firetruck?ing gold. This is absolutely rediculous!! Hey SoCalGrndR i feel your pain. I'm about the same in level and trophies as you but in IOS. Had the same experience where I got my butt kicked for awhile. I'm now seeing really good matches with my line up - lvl 8-11 bots but our win rates are closer... very few 12/12 bots. i had about a 4-5 day head start and my win rate is now consistently fluctuating between 54-68%. When I get to the high side, I tend to lose or start dropping in the rankings. In the 50's, I can consistently place top 3 with more wins than losses. I used to have very high win rates running my gep and lo gold line ups but never really cared about that stat until now because it signals changes. here is my hanger - I was building my H6/9 line up...last trident going to 9 today and now bots moving up to 9....should make me very competitive. I have a clan brother who is living my exact experience as well so between us, it seems like MM is settling a bit on IOS....hope you get there as well - hang in there! here is one of my matches from yesterday when I was on the upswing in the 50's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 15:36:05 GMT -5
Sorry man. Been there too. Lvl up. Plus tell the people that say calm down to take a walk
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Post by mechbond on Feb 4, 2017 16:54:29 GMT -5
You are in the wrong crowd to complain about MM. Loved this forum when I first discovered it, now it just seems as a propaganda mouthpiece for Pixo. If you complain about MM you are told to stop whining and get better.
My experience with 6/7.5 bots I have is that I'm getting clubbed by 12/12 or so players 70% of the time, other 30% I win by being carried by those same 12/12 on my team. It's like old bronze clubbing except more than half the players are running mag geps and you have a molot destrier.
One thing to note is that I don't see many players below my level in my matches so there might be decent gaming in 4/6 or so? Probably not.
I can't see this MM staying for long if Pixo has even a modicum of business savvy, but then again, I can't believe they even let it run for this long so anything seems possible with them. What a mess.
I played well over 200 games with new MM and nothing changes. I even "tanked" my win rate and dmg to 25% and under 200K still seeing 12/12 every game. Before I'm crucified for "tanking" let me just say I stay full game but only use zenits and noricums.
And now they are taking daily tasks away too so no more gold even from that. I fail to understand how they are making this game better, they took an ok MM with few flaws and changed it into new one that has clubbing that's tenfold the magnitude of old one. Bizarre.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 17:24:29 GMT -5
You are in the wrong crowd to complain about MM. Loved this forum when I first discovered it, now it just seems as a propaganda mouthpiece for Pixo. If you complain about MM you are told to stop whining and get better. My experience with 6/7.5 bots I have is that I'm getting clubbed by 12/12 or so players 70% of the time, other 30% I win by being carried by those same 12/12 on my team. It's like old bronze clubbing except more than half the players are running mag geps and you have a molot destrier. One thing to note is that I don't see many players below my level in my matches so there might be decent gaming in 4/6 or so? Probably not. I can't see this MM staying for long if Pixo has even a modicum of business savvy, but then again, I can't believe they even let it run for this long so anything seems possible with them. What a mess. I played well over 200 games with new MM and nothing changes. I even "tanked" my win rate and dmg to 25% and under 200K still seeing 12/12 every game. Before I'm crucified for "tanking" let me just say I stay full game but only use zenits and noricums. And now they are taking daily tasks away too so no more gold even from that. I fail to understand how they are making this game better, they took an ok MM with few flaws and changed it into new one that has clubbing that's tenfold the magnitude of old one. Bizarre. Ah, here Is your problem. Tanking disrupts your Elo, meaning it can't place you, and you will continue to face 12/12 opponents. Sack up and take a couple losses like a man, instead of purposely losing
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Post by mechbond on Feb 4, 2017 18:10:11 GMT -5
You are in the wrong crowd to complain about MM. Loved this forum when I first discovered it, now it just seems as a propaganda mouthpiece for Pixo. If you complain about MM you are told to stop whining and get better. My experience with 6/7.5 bots I have is that I'm getting clubbed by 12/12 or so players 70% of the time, other 30% I win by being carried by those same 12/12 on my team. It's like old bronze clubbing except more than half the players are running mag geps and you have a molot destrier. One thing to note is that I don't see many players below my level in my matches so there might be decent gaming in 4/6 or so? Probably not. I can't see this MM staying for long if Pixo has even a modicum of business savvy, but then again, I can't believe they even let it run for this long so anything seems possible with them. What a mess. I played well over 200 games with new MM and nothing changes. I even "tanked" my win rate and dmg to 25% and under 200K still seeing 12/12 every game. Before I'm crucified for "tanking" let me just say I stay full game but only use zenits and noricums. And now they are taking daily tasks away too so no more gold even from that. I fail to understand how they are making this game better, they took an ok MM with few flaws and changed it into new one that has clubbing that's tenfold the magnitude of old one. Bizarre. Ah, here Is your problem. Tanking disrupts your Elo, meaning it can't place you, and you will continue to face 12/12 opponents. Sack up and take a couple losses like a man, instead of purposely losing Are you trolling me? because if you are, you succeeded. In case you are not, then, hmm... reading comprehension must not be your strong skill??? Did you read the part where I wrote I played over 200 games "fair and square"? But let's say I played all 200 of them with intent to lose, and lost all of them on purpose. How in the hell can it disrupt Elo and other blah blah you wrote? It makes no sense, are you writing stuff just to be intentionally obtuse? What you wrote makes no factual or logical sense. Please show me where you got this information from, just a modicum of proof of your statements.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 4, 2017 19:48:53 GMT -5
You are in the wrong crowd to complain about MM. Loved this forum when I first discovered it, now it just seems as a propaganda mouthpiece for Pixo. If you complain about MM you are told to stop whining and get better. There are more than a few natural brown nosers here. Also more than few who appear to live in a terrible state of denial. They have a lot invested in the game, and can't seem to accept the problems. So they deny, and desperately try to get others to believe what they themselves really wish were, need to be, true. Otherwise I can't figure it out.
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Post by Spoopy Scary Haunter on Feb 4, 2017 22:11:23 GMT -5
You are in the wrong crowd to complain about MM. Loved this forum when I first discovered it, now it just seems as a propaganda mouthpiece for Pixo. If you complain about MM you are told to stop whining and get better. There are more than a few natural brown nosers here. Also more than few who appear to live in a terrible state of denial. They have a lot invested in the game, and can't seem to accept the problems. So they deny, and desperately try to get others to believe what they themselves really wish were, need to be, true. Otherwise I can't figure it out. I've invested Jack-all. Not sure what's happened with everyone else, but I've been getting great and fun matchups.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 5, 2017 12:22:25 GMT -5
Ive now lost 20% of win rate. 76% to 56% in 1 ?firetruck?ing day! B U L L 「poo-poo」 ! ! My level 6 bots can not stand up to lvl 10-12 bots when I LOSE I earn nothing when we win because I keep getting destroyed before I get close 600k to score any ?firetruck?ing gold. This is absolutely rediculous!! 1 time my win % even go down to 48% this game is Pay 2 Win now, accept it or not. hoping for better MM? seriously, wake up! because of the free premium i played a lot just to have more silver but after the free premium im not seeing my self doing 20 games per day. maybe ill just finish my daily task and if my clan is around, going solo is just a big waste of time.
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 5, 2017 12:24:56 GMT -5
There are more than a few natural brown nosers here. Also more than few who appear to live in a terrible state of denial. They have a lot invested in the game, and can't seem to accept the problems. So they deny, and desperately try to get others to believe what they themselves really wish were, need to be, true. Otherwise I can't figure it out. totally agree. PX already see the market value they have, free happy time is over guys. this is a pay 2 win now.
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Feb 5, 2017 15:09:05 GMT -5
Ive now lost 20% of win rate. 76% to 56% in 1 ?firetruck?ing day! B U L L 「poo-poo」 ! ! My level 6 bots can not stand up to lvl 10-12 bots when I LOSE I earn nothing when we win because I keep getting destroyed before I get close 600k to score any ?firetruck?ing gold. This is absolutely rediculous!! 1 time my win % even go down to 48% this game is Pay 2 Win now, accept it or not. hoping for better MM? seriously, wake up! because of the free premium i played a lot just to have more silver but after the free premium im not seeing my self doing 20 games per day. maybe ill just finish my daily task and if my clan is around, going solo is just a big waste of time. 48% isn't bad I fluctuated between 38% to 60%...sigh Right now I think I'm at 50% or 52%. But it'll go down like 40-ish before recovering. Au won is practically 0 (in clan but play solo mostly) But then again, I play half heartedly ever since new mm started. Just don't see half as much the fun in this game as before
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Post by Conflict's Student on Feb 5, 2017 15:46:59 GMT -5
Mine went from 70 before new MM, up to 76, down to 48, back up to 60, back down to 26%(!!!), back up to 60 for now. Waiting for it to plummet again.
I expect some of it is my own rating getting established (with perhaps insufficiently negative feedback in player rating, permitting such big swings) and some of it is other players introducing noise (whether by not having their own established ratings, tanking, having different types of player available at different times, or whatever else). It probably doesn't help that I tend to play with more reckless abandon on a streak (hot or cold) than when I'm getting balanced results, which might contribute to momentum in either direction.
I never thought it would be possible to go below 30%, but I did for about 5 or 6 games and it certainly wasn't due to a lack of effort on my part - just bullheaded determination to keep doing the same as I had been doing, but do more of it. I went about 4-21 (W-L) during that bad string of matches. The brick wall eventually won and I no longer try to play the leading role when soloing. The biggest single breakthrough for me was experimenting with trust that my random teammates might play as well as (or sometimes even better than) clanmates, and now I'm winning more than half of my solo matches again. I usually get better support from blues now than under the old MM, where I was on the threshold of low/trash gold (6/7-8 heavies), whether in the form of fighting for beacons, providing mid-range support (from complete strangers! what a concept), and in making use of midrange support I provide - since I need 1/2 slots to last a bit longer than the ~100 seconds my KFs normally last.
One other thing I've found is that I've been improving my own tactics at a much faster rate than I did in the old 'tiers' system. A noticeable factor for the upward swings has been making major adjustments to both hangar and tactics in response to new competition (and cooperation) I've never seen before.
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Post by stygianumbra on Feb 5, 2017 16:50:12 GMT -5
Oddly enough I kept getting placed with 6/9 and 8/9 type hangers vs my 12/12 with a 68% win rate so I tanked it to low 40s and suddenly I am facing maxed hangers, protection system implemented?
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Post by moody on Feb 5, 2017 20:21:55 GMT -5
Mine went from 70 before new MM, up to 76, down to 48, back up to 60, back down to 26%(!!!), back up to 60 for now. Waiting for it to plummet again. I expect some of it is my own rating getting established (with perhaps insufficiently negative feedback in player rating, permitting such big swings) and some of it is other players introducing noise (whether by not having their own established ratings, tanking, having different types of player available at different times, or whatever else). It probably doesn't help that I tend to play with more reckless abandon on a streak (hot or cold) than when I'm getting balanced results, which might contribute to momentum in either direction. I never thought it would be possible to go below 30%, but I did for about 5 or 6 games and it certainly wasn't due to a lack of effort on my part - just bullheaded determination to keep doing the same as I had been doing, but do more of it. I went about 4-21 (W-L) during that bad string of matches. The brick wall eventually won and I no longer try to play the leading role when soloing. The biggest single breakthrough for me was experimenting with trust that my random teammates might play as well as (or sometimes even better than) clanmates, and now I'm winning more than half of my solo matches again. I usually get better support from blues now than under the old MM, where I was on the threshold of low/trash gold (6/7-8 heavies), whether in the form of fighting for beacons, providing mid-range support (from complete strangers! what a concept), and in making use of midrange support I provide - since I need 1/2 slots to last a bit longer than the ~100 seconds my KFs normally last. One other thing I've found is that I've been improving my own tactics at a much faster rate than I did in the old 'tiers' system. A noticeable factor for the upward swings has been making major adjustments to both hangar and tactics in response to new competition (and cooperation) I've never seen before. That's one thing I have noticed. A lot of people are getting better at actually playing the game and cooperating as teams.
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Post by FunkenA on Feb 7, 2017 9:45:47 GMT -5
the game at the very top is so boring and useless.. Everything is 500m plus and I stop enjoying the game once i noticed 4- 6 triple furys or range natashas showing up
IMO this game is so opposite.,.. All the fun is in the early and mid sections of this game then the slow moving range bots take over and the game becomes a huge bore
IMO lots of top players fall low because the game is really really lame the higher lvls once you get to them..... I like to run and gun but you can't with 3 or 4 long range bots on each side taking shots across the map.. Just not nearly as fun as the game I was playing 2 months ago
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Post by cypho on Feb 7, 2017 10:58:58 GMT -5
the game at the very top is so boring and useless.. Everything is 500m plus and I stop enjoying the game once i noticed 4- 6 triple furys or range natashas showing up IMO this game is so opposite.,.. All the fun is in the early and mid sections of this game then the slow moving range bots take over and the game becomes a huge bore IMO lots of top players fall low because the game is really really lame the higher lvls once you get to them..... I like to run and gun but you can't with 3 or 4 long range bots on each side taking shots across the map.. Just not nearly as fun as the game I was playing 2 months ago Spot on. I have all ranges of bots and weapons, up to a handful of 10/10's. Fact of the matter is TT games just aren't as fun and forcing players to move in that direction is, IMO, a real mistake by Pixo.
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Post by mythicalchu on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:29 GMT -5
Preach to the choir. I am running four 7/8 bots, and since the new MM dropped, my win rate has gone down from around 65% to around 40%. I am constantly finding myself in matches vs. guys running 10/12 to 12/12 hangars, and getting slaughtered. I used to have avg damage of around 400k but now it's dropped to around 200k. Many matches, I get killed so fast that I barely break 100k, and only get that far because I finally dug out some long range weapons and put them on one bot. Last match I played, 2 guys were in with 12/12 Trident Furys and they both clocked me at once for instadeath. I have played over 200 matches with the new MM and it is not getting any better.
Before the new MM, I was occasionally running into clubbers alone or sometimes in squads (most often it would be 2/12 aphid or mag geps). The only time I got beat up as bad as I have been lately is when the entire other team was one squad, and usually those guys would be a solid team working together. I would hunt and usually neutralize one clubber by himself, so I never really found that to be a big deal. As frustrating as that experience could be, it was nothing compared to what is happening now.
I love mech games, and was really stoked when I discovered War Robots, but unless I can have a chance to be competitive without dropping hundreds of $$$ to max my bots, I will probably quit this game. I already told Pixonic how I felt, so I am sort of waiting for them to just ban my account and be done with the whole mess.
As for those who say just get over it, or those who are exploiting other players and being jerks, I have nothing to say to you except: Go 「fluffernutter」 Yourselves.
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Feb 9, 2017 10:16:59 GMT -5
I went from 72 to 36 percent in a week. Bad draws, bad teammates and me acting irrational some of the time didn't help. It'll go back up, but I'm going to have to take my hangar from 7/9 to 9/9 I think. As soon as this lunar event is over I'll be spending some of the gold I've saved up for a Fury or Lancelot. I have enough for both AND have the weapons leveled up and ready to go already. If that doesn't change things I'll need to get really introspective
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Post by Heishiro on Feb 9, 2017 11:29:32 GMT -5
my win rate goes 70% today looks like something is going on
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Post by Ѕπλκε✵Σψεs on Feb 9, 2017 11:40:20 GMT -5
I'm bouncing with my 7/9 hanger between 48-52% with some stability. Above 50% I'm maxed hanger fodder, below 50% I'm in a "fair" match. Even out damaged the 2nd place blue on my team who was near maxed...
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