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Post by coga89 on Jan 29, 2017 10:37:00 GMT -5
Hello everyone This is My hangar  And I'm left to fight against these robots  I'm confused At my level I did not think to find so many heavy robots against me I have to raise the level of weapons and robots to support these battles? Thanks |
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Post by gamingbulldog on Jan 29, 2017 12:59:27 GMT -5
I'm level 21 and have a grif and still see lots of heavies. I don't think having a heavy in your hanger affects matchmaking as much now. I would recommend getting a heavy. Grif is really good and easy to get. Galahad is not a heavy but if you use the shield right it can beat heavies. I don't have a Leo but they seem pretty good. Rhino and Lancalot are great if you can afford them. Steer clear of Natasha and Rajin until latter
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 29, 2017 18:28:11 GMT -5
It might be the mm or elo. Try getting heavy bots. Upgrade the bots and weapons level to support more damage and to do more damage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 0:49:36 GMT -5
Your hangar should be able to pound those bullet clad heavies. You have them outgunned, despite their higher health.
That said, it is widely believed that the new matchmaking system no longer considers your type of bot. So feel free to run your own heavies if u like.
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Post by Tarastir on Jan 30, 2017 1:36:48 GMT -5
Also look at your win rate: 70% is really high. I had similar hangar, with Boas lvl 4 and lvl 8 weapons. First week (maybe 20 games) after the matchmaking update were the same as before (against griffins,natashas, Leos), but after that i started to meet rhinos, lancelots, furys. So I took my lvl 6 heavies (instead of upgrading Boas to lvl 6, but I might try that).
But you can stay with your bots, just upgrade other bots to lvl 4 (your Vityaz is lvl 4), and maybe switch those Thunders 6<>7 so no bot has avrage weapon lvl higher than 6. You will do just fine against such enemies (with dmg, kills and win rate almost half of yours).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 3:40:25 GMT -5
Also look at your win rate: 70% is really high. I had similar hangar, with Boas lvl 4 and lvl 8 weapons. First week (maybe 20 games) after the matchmaking update were the same as before (against griffins,natashas, Leos), but after that i started to meet rhinos, lancelots, furys. So I took my lvl 6 heavies (instead of upgrading Boas to lvl 6, but I might try that). But you can stay with your bots, just upgrade other bots to lvl 4 (your Vityaz is lvl 4), and maybe switch those Thunders 6<>7 so no bot has avrage weapon lvl higher than 6. You will do just fine against such enemies (with dmg, kills and win rate almost half of yours). Definitely upgrade the Boa, at lv 6 it has more health than a stock Griff/Natasha and goes 38kmph. |
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Post by Tarastir on Jan 30, 2017 3:49:22 GMT -5
But try with one Boa first - you never know who you will face with a lvl 6/6 bot.
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Post by coga89 on Jan 30, 2017 16:13:04 GMT -5
I will buy 3 Leo and I use them in place of Boa
Griffin replace Vityaz
What do you think?
Medium robots level for daily quests?
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Post by Conflict's Student on Jan 30, 2017 17:05:22 GMT -5
Three Leos is probably too many - you will not want to play so many once you can afford the really expensive robots. But Griffins remain popular even among the players with everything. I would recommend no more than 1 Leo and 1 Griffin at first, keeping 2 Boas as well until you've got enough weapons leveled to put on more heavy bots.
The Boa is a tough little bot - he's not at as much of a disadvantage as you might think.
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Post by lephturn on Jan 30, 2017 17:52:20 GMT -5
You are facing level 6-7 because you have level 6 and 7 weapons.
It no longer makes sense to have your weapons levelled higher than your bots. Get your bots up to level 7 and then work from there.
Take the advice to move to a couple or 3 Griffins, it'll help. Maybe one Leo. maybe.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 30, 2017 19:17:06 GMT -5
Back in the day of hangar based MM I'd say swerve away from Natasha
But maybe try a knife Natasha, might be helpful
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Post by whatttupG on Jan 31, 2017 0:36:00 GMT -5
Hello everyone This is My hangar And I'm left to fight against these robots I'm confused At my level I did not think to find so many heavy robots against me I have to raise the level of weapons and robots to support these battles? Thanks You're not alone dude. I have a bit more hanger and still get pounded by uphill matches. I used to have a good win rate too, but I guess that 76% wasn't OK cuz I got shredded until it hit 53% then seemingly the pounding let up. How/why I dunno, will this crap level out, I dunno. Did it do what it wanted/needed.. dunno.. since 2.5, I'll be honest, it's almost one huge I dunno. Does my progress to 54% mean I'm asking for it... yeah... you get the point. |
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coga89
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Post by coga89 on Jan 31, 2017 12:00:28 GMT -5
Hello
But what I want to understand is:
With the new search of battles, the robot level / weapons is no longer matters?
Otherwise i leveling robots and weapons at the same level and i will farming money for heavy robot
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Post by Cyklown on Jan 31, 2017 13:53:02 GMT -5
Hello But what I want to understand is: With the new search of battles, the robot level / weapons is no longer matters? Otherwise i leveling robots and weapons at the same level and i will farming money for heavy robot It matters, it's one of the factors for matchmaking (we think) Keep your bot level about equal with your weapon level. Save up for a 5th slot. |
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coga89
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Post by coga89 on Jan 31, 2017 15:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by coga89 on Jan 31, 2017 16:26:04 GMT -5
I've try with heavy bots  My enemy   |
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Post by bmc on Feb 1, 2017 20:36:13 GMT -5
My sympathies to beginners because the new match making system is punishing. I'm a mid player and used to have all light bots because I preferred their speed. Now it means almost nothing so though my lights are very upgraded I had to buy heavies and start from scratch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 20:43:43 GMT -5
bmc, I dunno if we can have sympathy for ol' coga89. He is averaging over 400k damage, 70% win rate, 4.7 kills, and max damage of 900k+ I would say he is killing it! Nice work!
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Post by bmc on Feb 1, 2017 20:58:49 GMT -5
bmc , I dunno if we can have sympathy for ol' coga89 . He is averaging over 400k damage, 70% win rate, 4.7 kills, and max damage of 900k+ I would say he is killing it! Nice work! Good point dude, I retract my sympathies! |
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Post by coga89 on Feb 2, 2017 0:06:53 GMT -5
In recent battles I'm doing really disgusting
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Post by coga89 on Feb 14, 2017 0:09:15 GMT -5
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Post by Hobbes on Feb 14, 2017 5:38:03 GMT -5
Your hangar should be able to pound those bullet clad heavies. You have them outgunned, despite their higher health. Only because that hangar was really bad. Thunder/Molot is a joke, and 3 mid rangers with a Mag Gepard is not exactly what will win games at that level. As a rule, all AG mediums can be replaced with stock AG heavies. Leo > Boa/Vityaz, Plasma or DB Griffin > close range Golem/Patton, Natasha > (whatever support you use with AG mediums, say rocket golem) Use Thunder Pinata Leo as knifer, RDB Griff als midrange, Plasma Griff if you have two Mags and Tarans, and maybe Nashorn Molot or Nashorn Pin Natasha if you really want a second mid ranger. Only Thunder Taran boa is close to playing in this league. |
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coga89
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Post by coga89 on Feb 17, 2017 14:22:49 GMT -5
Hello
I have 2500 gold
What do you recommend?
Galahad or wait for fifth hangar
Thanks
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 17, 2017 14:58:56 GMT -5
Notice how his average damage is about the same as yours? Well... for now, many think the new MM looks at damage done per match in relation to your team mates and the Reds. So, if they are putting out the same amount of damage per match, it's likely that they will be matched with you, regardless of your equipment. THIS is the problem with smurfing. Even though it is better than full on tanking, it can still cause issues. Now he can just do enough to get gold and win... and will outclass almost everyone else. Until another smurfer gets matched up with him. |
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