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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Jan 9, 2018 8:52:41 GMT -5
so i wanted to test new shotguns in the game and i really like them on my little gareth..
shotgun gareth can take out ancilot/plasma girffin/thunder or zues carnage/ and probably only probably plasma fujin...
plasma gareth can also take em out except lanc which is tough..
overall shotgun gareth is much stronger than plasma gareth as of my experience
stats:
gareth lvl 10
storm lvl 6
gust lvl 7
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Post by Joopiter on Jan 16, 2018 18:57:34 GMT -5
What's the stats on that gareth and weps?
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Post by locutis on Jan 16, 2018 20:17:41 GMT -5
It would be good against ST bulgasari too.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Jan 17, 2018 4:13:54 GMT -5
I think Gareth is an exceptional bot with this load out. Shotguns deal a ton of damage up close. Gareth is good at keeping or closing distances and has some resistance to energy weapons. This makes him very useful for capping beacons and dealing with the fast mechs that arrive to contest the claim. Also good against bigger mechs. It doesnt mind brawling at all with the right tactics.
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Jan 23, 2018 10:44:38 GMT -5
What's the stats on that gareth and weps? sorry late reply, when i recorded the video, gareth was lvl 10,storm lvl 6 gust lvl 7 |
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Jan 23, 2018 10:45:53 GMT -5
It would be good against ST bulgasari too. not really,because bulg has shield.it might be effective against shotgun heachi or plasma heachi if we could deplete its energy shield while in cover and then brawling |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 23, 2018 11:49:47 GMT -5
It would be good against ST bulgasari too. not really,because bulg has shield.it might be effective against shotgun heachi or plasma heachi if we could deplete its energy shield while in cover and then brawling I disagree... that shield is not very covering and the spread of the Shotgun blast is going to get a good bit by the shield. Also, Gary is fast and nimble and can get up close and circle the Bulge. Plus, shields take double damage from ballistic weapons so if it is used effectively to block some shotty blasts it will last half as long as if it was hit by plasma... in my experience with the Haechi, Galahad, and Golem versions of the shotgun builds, shields are not that much of a deterrent to me. IMO, YMMV |
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Post by locutis on Jan 23, 2018 12:16:19 GMT -5
not really,because bulg has shield.it might be effective against shotgun heachi or plasma heachi if we could deplete its energy shield while in cover and then brawling I disagree... that shield is not very covering and the spread of the Shotgun blast is going to get a good bit by the shield. Also, Gary is fast and nimble and can get up close and circle the Bulge. Plus, shields take double damage from ballistic weapons so if it is used effectively to block some shotty blasts it will last half as long as if it was hit by plasma... in my experience with the Haechi, Galahad, and Golem versions of the shotgun builds, shields are not that much of a deterrent to me. IMO, YMMV This.. The bulgasari shield is only partially effective against ballistic weapons and doesn't last long against close range shot gun blasts. Also the shocktrains get difficult to acquire target and utilize at extreme close range. A skilled gary pilot with storm gust will easily defeat a shocktrain bulgasari IF they can get close. That's really the key here, get to point blank range and circle. I'll probably lose target lock at least once. 3 seconds to reacquire the lock plus 8+ seconds between shots is an eternety while getting blasted with shotguns at close range. Most likely it will result in a dead bulg with only damage to the gary's shield. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 23, 2018 14:00:12 GMT -5
I just tried the Shotgun Gareth in a few games. It's pretty fun, and you literally have to play it like a Carnage. Stalk, stalk, stalk, pounce. In one game, I made it all the way to the red home base to stalk a treb Fury. LOL, that was one stalk that paid off. I got him to 1/4 health before a Griffin showed up and then an Ancilot. Took out the Fury and a nice chunk of the Griffin before I died. Not a bad play! My Gust is only level 6 though. Can't wait to get higher! It's got some definite advantages over the DB Gareth that I usually play. It's similar to the differences between the Orkan Bulg and the Storm Bulg. You have to get WAY closer, but you get better results AND have more ammo left to take on another bot.
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Post by AzureAura on Jan 23, 2018 14:31:52 GMT -5
I decided to try it out since I finally got a gust and despite the storm and gust both being under lvl 8 it still killed a Griffin in about 20 secs.
Tho I had to get really close (like 30m) which is something I probably can't afford if I end up shooting a knife fighter.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Jan 23, 2018 17:54:15 GMT -5
Nice job on the music selection!!!!
Very fitting.
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Jan 24, 2018 9:36:01 GMT -5
not really,because bulg has shield.it might be effective against shotgun heachi or plasma heachi if we could deplete its energy shield while in cover and then brawling I disagree... that shield is not very covering and the spread of the Shotgun blast is going to get a good bit by the shield. Also, Gary is fast and nimble and can get up close and circle the Bulge. Plus, shields take double damage from ballistic weapons so if it is used effectively to block some shotty blasts it will last half as long as if it was hit by plasma... in my experience with the Haechi, Galahad, and Golem versions of the shotgun builds, shields are not that much of a deterrent to me. IMO, YMMV yeah you might be correct but remember the 190k hp of lvl 12 bulg with 300k hp shield...and bulg is too tall for little gareth and he can hit you from the top..and because of that bulg cant miss with tarans or storm most probably...i never defeated a bulg that's why it's just my oppinion |
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Post by wildboar on Jan 24, 2018 9:37:53 GMT -5
ooh ... I have a L9 Storm and a Gust about to hit 7 ... might be worth a run out after looking at that... coolio  |
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Jan 24, 2018 9:40:52 GMT -5
ooh ... I have a L9 Storm and a Gust about to hit 7 ... might be worth a run out after looking at that... coolio yeah just for fun..i have lvl 12gust now and lvl 6 storm going for lvl 12 soon..i'll post a video soon where i scored 600k dmg with only shotgun gareth with teamwork |
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Post by wildboar on Jan 31, 2018 5:24:17 GMT -5
Well I am fielding my shotgun Gareth 9/9/9 ... not bad at all I have had plasma gareths come charging at me then suddenly beat a retreat  ... Not a massive damage output but tactically sound ...fast / strips shields / shielded Weak against high HP bots who come for you as you destroyed their last bot  Makes the Lancelot feel like a chore to pilot |
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Jan 31, 2018 7:35:55 GMT -5
ShotGep is fun too, though lacking Gareth's shield. Any shotgun build needs to be close, but if it is...watch out!
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 14, 2018 6:29:18 GMT -5
thought i should include this as well,recorded couple months ago
lvl 10 gareth lvl 6 storm lvl 7 gust
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 15:34:24 GMT -5
Spectre with orkans comes...
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Post by Ingoa Kore on Apr 14, 2018 18:09:01 GMT -5
I've tried running Buckshot Gareth, but at 6/6, the Storm/Gust combination doesn't have a lot of killing power. And at level 6, Gareth can't survive a lot of abuse trying to get close enough to inflict it. I'm afraid that I'll have to go back to plasma. It's not my favorite, but otherwise he just doesn't live very long.
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 15, 2018 1:18:18 GMT -5
Spectre with orkans comes... this is just a fun build in lower leagues, not a permanant,i am in champion and i don't use it |
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 15, 2018 1:23:06 GMT -5
I've tried running Buckshot Gareth, but at 6/6, the Storm/Gust combination doesn't have a lot of killing power. And at level 6, Gareth can't survive a lot of abuse trying to get close enough to inflict it. I'm afraid that I'll have to go back to plasma. It's not my favorite, but otherwise he just doesn't live very long. i don't think you have watched my video? i posted another 1 million dmg..about 500-600K with only gary shotgun gary obviously inflicts dmg at close range and you have to be very careful and that's where the fun begins plasma gary is still good at mid range but as for a beacon runner, gary often get close range combat and shotgun might be the best option and remember this is just build for fun and both builds work at lower leagues i am in champion and i don't use it(obviously) |
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Post by Ingoa Kore on Apr 15, 2018 1:41:43 GMT -5
I've tried running Buckshot Gareth, but at 6/6, the Storm/Gust combination doesn't have a lot of killing power. And at level 6, Gareth can't survive a lot of abuse trying to get close enough to inflict it. I'm afraid that I'll have to go back to plasma. It's not my favorite, but otherwise he just doesn't live very long. i don't think you have watched my video? i posted another 1 million dmg..about 500-600K with only gary shotgun gary obviously inflicts dmg at close range and you have to be very careful and that's where the fun begins plasma gary is still good at mid range but as for a beacon runner, gary often get close range combat and shotgun might be the best option and remember this is just build for fun and both builds work at lower leagues i am in champion and i don't use it(obviously) To be truthful, no, I didn't watch your video. I was speaking of my own experience with the Buckshot Gareth. Most times, I'm being cut to pieces by Tulus and Pins before I can get within plasma range. If that's the case, I'm even less likely to get close with buckshot when I get within range of Orkans and Pinatas. At least with plasma, I only need to worry about about Tulus and Pins. I play at a self imposed disadvantage. All of my bots and weapons are 6/6. It would be profoundly different if I was running a 12/12 Gareth. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Apr 15, 2018 2:23:28 GMT -5
Very effective mini carnage with the added bonus of always on speed, ability to dodge aphids and resistance to energy but is deathly allergic to rockets (but tactics can help it avoid this to an extent). Marching up my gareth to MK2 to max out shield and hp. And marching my stormgusts to lv 9 for use in gold tier and wherever it takes me.
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 15, 2018 2:36:47 GMT -5
i don't think you have watched my video? i posted another 1 million dmg..about 500-600K with only gary shotgun gary obviously inflicts dmg at close range and you have to be very careful and that's where the fun begins plasma gary is still good at mid range but as for a beacon runner, gary often get close range combat and shotgun might be the best option and remember this is just build for fun and both builds work at lower leagues i am in champion and i don't use it(obviously) To be truthful, no, I didn't watch your video. I was speaking of my own experience with the Buckshot Gareth. Most times, I'm being cut to pieces by Tulus and Pins before I can get within plasma range. If that's the case, I'm even less likely to get close with buckshot when I get within range of Orkans and Pinatas. At least with plasma, I only need to worry about about Tulus and Pins. I play at a self imposed disadvantage. All of my bots and weapons are 6/6. It would be profoundly different if I was running a 12/12 Gareth. Well,you got a long way to learn though But light bots don't engage themselves with rockets,just try to avoid them as much as possible and focus on enemies using plasma |
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 15, 2018 2:38:52 GMT -5
Very effective mini carnage with the added bonus of always on speed, ability to dodge aphids and resistance to energy but is deathly allergic to rockets (but tactics can help it avoid this to an extent). Marching up my gareth to MK2 to max out shield and hp. And marching my stormgusts to lv 9 for use in gold tier and wherever it takes me. Yeah,good luck to you But i stopped at lvl 10 gareth for max speed and enough hp..i suggest you to only upgrade weapons to mk2 of you want And light bots are always build to avoid rockets and not engage themselves in combat |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Apr 15, 2018 2:55:06 GMT -5
Very effective mini carnage with the added bonus of always on speed, ability to dodge aphids and resistance to energy but is deathly allergic to rockets (but tactics can help it avoid this to an extent). Marching up my gareth to MK2 to max out shield and hp. And marching my stormgusts to lv 9 for use in gold tier and wherever it takes me. Yeah,good luck to you But i stopped at lvl 10 gareth for max speed and enough hp..i suggest you to only upgrade weapons to mk2 of you want And light bots are always build to avoid rockets and not engage themselves in combat Thanks! I like the speed, but keep weapons low to stay in gold. Still, lv7 aphids on a fast bot allow me to threaten and control various sites on the battlefield, forcing the reds to react even when I dont engage. I try to MK2 the bots because smart opponents will gang up to eliminate me. 1 on 1 decently played, aphid jesse can beat a fully kitted tharnage and do good damage (with time) against a fujin and eat anything slower and heavier. Im counting on Gareth to elicit the same effect. |
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Post by Zᴀᴍʀᴀɴ∞ on Apr 15, 2018 3:49:40 GMT -5
Yeah,good luck to you But i stopped at lvl 10 gareth for max speed and enough hp..i suggest you to only upgrade weapons to mk2 of you want And light bots are always build to avoid rockets and not engage themselves in combat Thanks! I like the speed, but keep weapons low to stay in gold. Still, lv7 aphids on a fast bot allow me to threaten and control various sites on the battlefield, forcing the reds to react even when I dont engage. I try to MK2 the bots because smart opponents will gang up to eliminate me. 1 on 1 decently played, aphid jesse can beat a fully kitted tharnage and do good damage (with time) against a fujin and eat anything slower and heavier. Im counting on Gareth to elicit the same effect. Well good luck |
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