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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 17:50:22 GMT -5
It has been 1 and a half weeks since the new Matchmaking rolled out. I am not clubber, I play full 6/8s. Before the change, I had a 550K in HIGH SILVER/LOW GOLD which is comparable to TT players. My win rate was an above-average 78%. And that is because I was able to outplay and out think my opponents. I was fighting usually higher leveled opponents with up to level 8 bot and level 10 weapon. Most of my games were really fun, down the the last second beacon runs. As soon as the new matchmaking came out, I immediately put into top tier 12/12 battles (I was the only guy without 12/12s in the whole match). After my win rate dropped to a 56%, then I'd start seeing former clubbers that were also paired up into 12/12 matches.
Taking part of around 40-50 top tier games, it turns out all those players knew how to to is lob aphids and shoot tridents. Their brawling skills were terrible and most Griffins decided to shoot aphids instead of Tarans or Orkans. Battles were determined who had the most trident furies and patton aphids. Saw one [VOX] guy (forgot his name but it started with a THE) and all he did was throw aphids from his patton.
These matches are not determined by skill anymore, ironically, which ELO is supposed to fix. My win rate is about 40 somthing % and I am still being pitted against whole clans of 12/12, 10/11 players.
I really hope matches get sorted out soon, because I am not happy with the 2 'coins' I get for taking part in a 10 minute slogfest. It's not as fun anymore, walking up to defend a beacons and every enemy MRS decides to shoot at you.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Jan 27, 2017 18:03:19 GMT -5
I was wondering if it had settled down, but yesterday and today my win % has been see-sawing violently.
Yesterday I just got *slaughtered*. Today I started by getting carried, and then started getting gold. Went as low as 40% before I started getting charity wins (getting carried).
I really don't like matches where I'm just a passenger, win or lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 18:11:42 GMT -5
All the victories I have been getting are empty ones; ones that I can't really contribute to the team because MRS would take me out.
The losses I have been getting are full blown; like 1/4 on beacons or the enemy holding all 5 beacons
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Post by SlowReflexes on Jan 27, 2017 18:20:19 GMT -5
All the victories I have been getting are empty ones; ones that I can't really contribute to the team because MRS would take me out. The losses I have been getting are full blown; like 1/4 on beacons or the enemy holding all 5 beacons Yep I hate that- blowout losses and wins where I didn't contribute. When that happens I wonder why I'm even playing. It would be the same if I just parked my robot in a corner and took a nap. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Jan 27, 2017 18:42:49 GMT -5
All the victories I have been getting are empty ones; ones that I can't really contribute to the team because MRS would take me out. The losses I have been getting are full blown; like 1/4 on beacons or the enemy holding all 5 beacons Yep I hate that- blowout losses and wins where I didn't contribute. When that happens I wonder why I'm even playing. It would be the same if I just parked my robot in a corner and took a nap. That's pretty much what many people are doing. Parking their bot in game or leaving. Both ways screw the players who want to play. Not only do we have to fight the MM, we have to fight for the deserters and then pull it out for the deadbeats whos robot is just sitting there in the way. |
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Post by Nitro on Jan 27, 2017 18:49:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know what Pixonic was thinking when they made this matchmaking update. Look, I understand if this was some sort of generic FPS game where all weapons are similar and people have around the exact same amount of speed and health, but it's not. The robots are diverse, some sluggish, others quick, some are 5x as much health as you and whatnot. It's not like most games where the winner is the most skilled. Some of my clanmates even made new accounts to see just how bad it was and guess what? As soon as they passed level 1 there was nothing but those massive rascals out there in their Rhinos, griffins Natashas and Carnages... what were you thinking Pixonic? Seriously?!
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Post by bearre on Jan 27, 2017 19:13:45 GMT -5
I'm on day 4 in my Android with the new mm. It is slowly getting better for me. I am still often matched against people with bots and weapons 2-3 levels higher than mine, but I am not facing 12/12 machines in my little 6/7 bots like I was for the first couple of days.
I still get furious when I lose a fairly close match and see 1-3 players have just sat there (0-0-0). Pix really needs to do domething about those clowns if this new mm is to have a chance.
I am still sceptical and wonder how much longer it will take to actually be good. I am also sceptical about how the "tankers" will be dealt with. That said I have seen some improvement and that gives me some hope that I will see a light at the end of the tunnel soon.
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Post by whatttupG on Jan 27, 2017 23:41:25 GMT -5
It has been 1 and a half weeks since the new Matchmaking rolled out. I am not clubber, I play full 6/8s. Before the change, I had a 550K in HIGH SILVER/LOW GOLD which is comparable to TT players. My win rate was an above-average 78%. And that is because I was able to outplay and out think my opponents. I was fighting usually higher leveled opponents with up to level 8 bot and level 10 weapon. Most of my games were really fun, down the the last second beacon runs. As soon as the new matchmaking came out, I immediately put into top tier 12/12 battles (I was the only guy without 12/12s in the whole match). After my win rate dropped to a 56%, then I'd start seeing former clubbers that were also paired up into 12/12 matches. Taking part of around 40-50 top tier games, it turns out all those players knew how to to is lob aphids and shoot tridents. Their brawling skills were terrible and most Griffins decided to shoot aphids instead of Tarans or Orkans. Battles were determined who had the most trident furies and patton aphids. Saw one [VOX] guy (forgot his name but it started with a THE) and all he did was throw aphids from his patton. These matches are not determined by skill anymore, ironically, which ELO is supposed to fix. My win rate is about 40 somthing % and I am still being pitted against whole clans of 12/12, 10/11 players. I really hope matches get sorted out soon, because I am not happy with the 2 'coins' I get for taking part in a 10 minute slogfest. It's not as fun anymore, walking up to defend a beacons and every enemy MRS decides to shoot at you. similar findings here... while the number of 12/12 sharks in the water is visibly down, the other 5 blues are now down even more... last spawn my team of six was made up of me, two destrier and three natasha... oh I kid you not... among the five, two punishers, two sprirals and all three naty's... yep, each one identical... 2x zenit, 2x noricum... who knew the world was so chock full of level 8 natasha's built to kill lol it's not all bad I guess, I do kinda like the popping sound the noricum makes.... getting to hear six of them pounding away means several minutes of neato terrific rat a tat tat every match!! |
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Post by springeb on Jan 28, 2017 0:04:47 GMT -5
This following hangar is my poor brother in law. Told me tonight the game is too hard. He can't even get shots off before his bots pop. (iOS) He still hasn't made it to Level 30 and the game may lose him and players like him. I do understand he could do much better if he learns more about bot setups and strategies, but if players like him all bail I expect the game pay experience for the rest of us to decline over time. This game needs a growing player base. Pixonic. Please continue to address this.  |
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Post by duckdecoy on Jan 28, 2017 1:26:18 GMT -5
This following hangar is my poor brother in law. Told me tonight the game is too hard. He can't even get shots off before his bots pop. And that's why the new MM is fair to players below Level 20. In the old MM, your BIL would have been matched against low bronze players with no access to plasma weaps. So now he's disillusioned because he can't take the same medicine he's been dishing out to others? Karma is a female dog innit? |
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Post by WhiskeyFitz on Jan 28, 2017 1:34:50 GMT -5
This following hangar is my poor brother in law. Told me tonight the game is too hard. He can't even get shots off before his bots pop. (iOS) He still hasn't made it to Level 30 and the game may lose him and players like him. I do understand he could do much better if he learns more about bot setups and strategies, but if players like him all bail I expect the game pay experience for the rest of us to decline over time. This game needs a growing player base. Pixonic. Please continue to address this. Your brother in law was boarder line clubbing. Tell him to upgrade those bots, or else he'll continue to get rocked |
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 28, 2017 2:01:36 GMT -5
This following hangar is my poor brother in law. Told me tonight the game is too hard. He can't even get shots off before his bots pop. (iOS) He still hasn't made it to Level 30 and the game may lose him and players like him. I do understand he could do much better if he learns more about bot setups and strategies, but if players like him all bail I expect the game pay experience for the rest of us to decline over time. This game needs a growing player base. Pixonic. Please continue to address this. Your brother in law was boarder line clubbing. Tell him to upgrade those bots, or else he'll continue to get rocked Yup, no one to blame but himself. I'm in a similar boat, incidentally. Not as stark as this, but in the 4/6 "canyon of despair" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 2:31:16 GMT -5
For me the new system has finally started to smooth out. On both iOS and Android platforms. When it first started my win rate tanked from 62 to 32. Now my kills have dropped to below 4, but I attribute that to having to play a support or decoy role when I get lucky and fill a slot for a really good clan and they seemed to be adept at stealing kills, that I had worked towards (naughty boys), but my average damage has risen slightly my win rate is back up to 52%. For the last couple of days I have seen no team mates or opponents below level 30. Which was happening up until then. the lowest level of bots I have seen has been 8 and weapons 1 or 2 level higher, sometimes 3. I have included a pic of my hangar, so if anyone can tell whether or not that might have some impact, but to me I am seeing more parity. oh my Galahad will be lvl 11 in less than 36 hours.  I am also enclosed a pic of my last game, well because I thought it was a good game to end the day on.  |
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Post by BlackGrouse on Jan 28, 2017 2:58:45 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm exeption in the mainstream, but my win rate has been going up since Elo-system started. Below is my hangar on January 18th and below that is from January 28th (this year obviously). So it is 10 days and 23 battles. Only change between hangars is that RDB Griffin's other Tulumbas is upgraded to level 9 and new damage record. Not a big difference but it is there. Why this is happening I don't have a clue. Also it can be that this sampling could be too small to be noted.I have been playing only in random teams. I'm facing players from Russia, Germany, Turkey, Iran, Irak and India very often - more like europe countries.   (Boa is more like placeholder right now. Going to replace it with Galahad which I just couple days ago was able to buy.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 3:03:35 GMT -5
BlackGrouse
That's looks fairly close to my Android hangar, a few differences, but not many. I have just stayed fairly steady there at 66% and not seen too many out of whack battles..
I wonder?
My kills are at 4.0 and my damage is a little over 461k.
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Post by BlackGrouse on Jan 28, 2017 3:25:37 GMT -5
I have just stayed fairly steady there at 66% and not seen too many out of whack battles.. Same here, battles what I have been playing through (note: I don't skip or quit any battle I start) were very decent. Maybe my Elo-rating - or whatever called - is low still and I'm facing not so experienced players. What I have been checking other players hangars they mostly equals to mine, but sometimes little bit lower levels (1-2). Most noticeable difference is that my average damage score is almost every time 100-250k greater than others in my team or in enemy team. And now when I'm remembering more, I haven't seen any player on my team who does nothing, everyone is taking part to the battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 3:32:25 GMT -5
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I'm right in line with your observations. Maybe we found a sweet spot. On android platform with the hangars we have. This where I plan to keep my hangar for the near future. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 11:16:24 GMT -5
When my win rate dropped down to a 38%, then I was finally seeing 8/10s instead of 12/12s.
This is complete BS
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