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Post by darthbobafett on Dec 26, 2017 13:42:30 GMT -5
Over the past few months on this forum, I've observed some pretty irritating habits.
The Haechi has been proclaimed as the most OP bot in dozens of threads, with many forum members bashing it constantly. Yet I've observed some of those same forum members who complained about the haechi post other threads about how they bought it and how its so much fun to use.
This happens with the ember, shocktrain, and all sorts of component items; players complain about the extreme lethality of these items and how they create an unfair advantage, but then go on to buy and use it.
Pixonic will never stop rolling out these types of weapons because players keep buying them! It doesn't matter how much you complain and protest in videos, the only thing that will gain Pixonic's attention is the decrease in revenue from these particular sales.
The only way to stop Pixonic's rollout of OP equipment is to stop buying it.
For example, take the recent Battlefront 2 game by EA, players not only complained about the pay-to-win schemes but also voted with their money. Battlefront 2 sales turned out lower than expected and EA decided to take out the parts of game that gamers did not like. It also caused EA to change their other games to avoid future backlash.
That's how it's done!
But this type of action will probably never happen with our community. I'm pretty sure when the new mech with 4 medium slots and a cloaking ability comes out it will be bought pretty quickly by those who complained about its features.
This post is not meant to bash those who buy component weapons/mechs (that's entirely your choice, enjoy it!), it only is meant to show the hypocrisy of those who complain about these component items yet still buy them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 14:20:55 GMT -5
F2P outnumbers the whales.
3 Things that I've noticed on this forum:
-No one wants to boycott for some strange reason even the Youtubers too.
-Nobody is standing up against Pixonic as in start a campaign or protesting.
-People write blogs and essays about the state of the game and hope that someday a developer from Pixonic will actually read it.
Had the first 2 mentioned above actually happened then the game will undergo drastic changes that will suit the player's liking. Though Pixonic is greedy they'll still have to listen or risk losing a good chunk of their player base who refuse to spend an absurd amount of money.
Also, nobody is forcing you to buy new gear.
People keep falling to Pixonic's dirty underhanded tactics to spend and regret it after.
Whales spend like no tomorrow to get powerful ASAP because money is power, they have a big ego and they're just being exploited the way Pixonic wants.
We're all men, why hold back and let Pixonic step all over us? It's time to take action and make a change. JUST DO IT, MAN!
It's 6 AM in the morning, I'm missing sleep and I just wanted to get this off my chest for once...
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Post by GuitarGuy on Dec 26, 2017 14:41:24 GMT -5
We talk about whales all the time here but it seems no one ever blames hackers. Do you really think those herds of clans with pilots with all MKII stuff and only a couple of thousand victories actually bought that stuff?! I would be willing to bet a large portion of the "whales" out there are people who are just hacking the game for unlimited resources instead. As someone in champ league I see lots of MKII hangars and it just looks way suspicious with these new pilots and totally maxed hangars and you find out he is some 16 year old kid..
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Post by Domino on Dec 26, 2017 14:47:38 GMT -5
We talk about whales all the time here but it seems no one ever blames hackers. Do you really think those herds of clans with pilots with all MKII stuff and only a couple of thousand victories actually bought that stuff?! I would be willing to bet a large portion of the "whales" out there are people who are just hacking the game for unlimited resources instead. As someone in champ league I see lots of MKII hangars and it just looks way suspicious with these new pilots and totally maxed hangars and you find out he is some 16 year old kid.. That will eventually prove itself in the meantime we have to assume they did. Competition or atleast the lure of power and a "look at me" are the driving factors of this. I'm in Master league now and losing 50% of my health from some guy that's 600m down the board and no LoS on me is just killing this game. That and it takes 2+ bots to kill maybe 1 Haechi 1v1. Has caused me to bring my play time to an absolute crawl. I do dallies and I'm done |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 26, 2017 15:15:38 GMT -5
We talk about whales all the time here but it seems no one ever blames hackers. Do you really think those herds of clans with pilots with all MKII stuff and only a couple of thousand victories actually bought that stuff?! I would be willing to bet a large portion of the "whales" out there are people who are just hacking the game for unlimited resources instead. As someone in champ league I see lots of MKII hangars and it just looks way suspicious with these new pilots and totally maxed hangars and you find out he is some 16 year old kid.. Not to sound naive, but I didn't think iOS apps were hackable. Not as easily as the widespread proliferation of maxed MK II super-hangars would suggest, anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 15:16:17 GMT -5
We talk about whales all the time here but it seems no one ever blames hackers. Do you really think those herds of clans with pilots with all MKII stuff and only a couple of thousand victories actually bought that stuff?! I would be willing to bet a large portion of the "whales" out there are people who are just hacking the game for unlimited resources instead. As someone in champ league I see lots of MKII hangars and it just looks way suspicious with these new pilots and totally maxed hangars and you find out he is some 16 year old kid.. Where there is a whale, there is a hacker. Take Final Fantasy Mobius for example, whales can spend to get supreme cards that costs grands and compete in the tower event, mean while a F2P can use hacks and outdo the whale. |
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Post by moflete on Dec 26, 2017 15:21:26 GMT -5
We talk about whales all the time here but it seems no one ever blames hackers. Do you really think those herds of clans with pilots with all MKII stuff and only a couple of thousand victories actually bought that stuff?! I would be willing to bet a large portion of the "whales" out there are people who are just hacking the game for unlimited resources instead. As someone in champ league I see lots of MKII hangars and it just looks way suspicious with these new pilots and totally maxed hangars and you find out he is some 16 year old kid.. You are probably right, but take into account that the game is ranking top tier in revenues, so maybe there's a sad combination of whales and hackers.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 20:42:50 GMT -5
If you want to compete at top level, there is no way to avoid whaling, at least a bit.
I fail to see the hypocrisy of complaining about the OP’edness of the new stuff while spending a little to play the game.
Sure, the game would be better with better balance or better availability (=lower prices) but that ain’t happening anyway.
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Post by robocain on Dec 26, 2017 20:54:33 GMT -5
I think a smart whale rather grabs some of the big gold deals instead of buying a number of gold boxes at once. Those 20k Au deals and stuff make sense for reducing the cost a lot. Still freakin expensive...but you gotta think the whale way...lol
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Post by revonix on Dec 27, 2017 2:09:27 GMT -5
My iOS account has no Post-Moon Update weapons (No Tempest, Shocktrains, Embers, etc.), and robots (No Dash, Descends, Hovers), and I am still wrecking others.  To be exact, I run PDB and DB Griff, Thunder Carnage, and either Ancileo, RDB Griff, or Magepard (Magnum Gep)... |
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Post by snk on Dec 27, 2017 2:14:42 GMT -5
My iOS account has no Post-Moon Update weapons (No Tempest, Shocktrains, Embers, etc.), and robots (No Dash, Descends, Hovers), and I am still wrecking others. To be exact, I run PDB and DB Griff, Thunder Carnage, and either Ancileo, RDB Griff, or Magepard (Magnum Gep)... What League are you in? Is it possible that most if not all DIESS promoted to higher league and leave the weak behind? That why weak can wreck the weaker. |
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Post by revonix on Dec 27, 2017 2:42:17 GMT -5
My iOS account has no Post-Moon Update weapons (No Tempest, Shocktrains, Embers, etc.), and robots (No Dash, Descends, Hovers), and I am still wrecking others. To be exact, I run PDB and DB Griff, Thunder Carnage, and either Ancileo, RDB Griff, or Magepard (Magnum Gep)... What League are you in? Is it possible that most if not all DIESS promoted to higher league and leave the weak behind? That why weak can wreck the weaker. Silver I, gonna be Gold III soon. At this level I already see a lot of Kumihos and some Bulgasaris. No Descends or Hovers yet, but still, surviving, if that is the right word. |
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Post by acdcfan on Dec 27, 2017 2:43:49 GMT -5
Personally I think that difficulty of obtaining new gear and leveling it up,for F2P players, is one of the reasons people complain about DIESS. I have won Bulgie in the last event and currently sitting at lvl 9 and I intend to lvl it up to 12, and that is the only dash bot I have, oh and I have 4 storms sitting at lvl 1 and 2 scourges lvl 1 ( all won thru components but not of my choosing)
If new bots and weapons were offered to everyone for reasonable amount of in game currency, I don't think there would be this many complaints about OP bots and weapons. People would buy them and lvl them up slowly. if you look back it all started with introduction of wild west bots, influence points and snowballed from there.
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Post by Domino on Dec 27, 2017 9:11:03 GMT -5
Personally I think that difficulty of obtaining new gear and leveling it up,for F2P players, is one of the reasons people complain about DIESS. I have won Bulgie in the last event and currently sitting at lvl 9 and I intend to lvl it up to 12, and that is the only dash bot I have, oh and I have 4 storms sitting at lvl 1 and 2 scourges lvl 1 ( all won thru components but not of my choosing) If new bots and weapons were offered to everyone for reasonable amount of in game currency, I don't think there would be this many complaints about OP bots and weapons. People would buy them and lvl them up slowly. if you look back it all started with introduction of wild west bots, influence points and snowballed from there. Maybe. Remember the bellyache we did when the Dash bots were component only, it will take forever to grind out one from the boxes. Since then they have added Ember/Shocktrain/Redeemer/Storm/Hover/Gust (I believe Scourge/Tempest were switch to components at the same time as Dashs). If it didn't take forever then, it's most definitely going to now. So for all the people that play this game casusally (Like I), I will not drop hundreds of dollars to get DIESS however I managed to get to Master without it but now I'm placing bottom on almost any game I play against DIESS hangars. No skill is going to overcome the advantages of the bots/weapons that $$ only. From the road map, this is only going to get worse. (It's past the point of impossible for causal F2P guys, no way I will spend hours of my life daily to win a Bulg from an event). Supply Crates? That remains to be seen, with the hangar I have now, I cannot remain in Master, unless I don't play and just collect crates. Maybe after 6 months I might have enough for 1 Dash bot which won't mean much because you need a few + MK2 to really put a dent in TT |
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Post by leavemealone on Dec 27, 2017 9:38:38 GMT -5
exactly is why they made farming and the tiny portion you received are garbage hoping that you give in and pay up.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 27, 2017 9:46:56 GMT -5
I don't hate DIESS half as much as Pixo's incompetence in managing them. Exorbitant prices, Poor design, crappy release and availability. Still most of the other component gear/bots seem ok except the haechi and the shocktrains (in threes and with chain) and possibly the redeemer (I've yet to earn one), specter, dragoon and strider. All others are pretty playable and though strong are not a cause for game imbalance the way the haechi and the shocktrains are individually and combined. Bulga is only OP with ST.
Not planning to get all gears or robots but gears that can add utility to legacy bots are always welcome.
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Post by snk on Dec 27, 2017 11:23:57 GMT -5
What League are you in? Is it possible that most if not all DIESS promoted to higher league and leave the weak behind? That why weak can wreck the weaker. Silver I, gonna be Gold III soon. At this level I already see a lot of Kumihos and some Bulgasaris. No Descends or Hovers yet, but still, surviving, if that is the right word. Once you reach Champions League, the DIESS you will face are level 12 if they are not MKII, and the amount of them probably 5 times you see in silver 1. I am in iOS Champions League and Master all the time (4950-5050 rating most of the time), the DIESS amount and level gap is huge. So i guess silver 1 is fine. Guess what, most DIESS scale very well with level. Heachi with Ancile, Bulgasari with huge hp pool and half shield, Inquisitors with long invisible...... all of them equip level 12 or MKII weapons, they are just too strong for most old bots. |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Dec 27, 2017 11:38:19 GMT -5
..Better yet...Master, and I do mean Master the traditional builds and own the guys running the Whorbots gear...It is most satisfying! To hydra the ?fluffy bunny? out of mr. look at my cocktrain Hitchi is simply beautiful. It keeps me erect.
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