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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 18:33:07 GMT -5
I just got done playing five games with the new Boa, and I have to say something about the old model made it faster and tougher. With the way the old Boa stood (it was close to being as tall as the Leo when it moved), it really seemed like it moved faster. With the new design that theory I think has been confirmed; as an avid Boa pilot, I SWEAR the Boa feels slower than it was yesterday. Did Pixo fix this unintentional yet good speed buff by fixing how the model moved? To top it off, my Boas got melted IMMEDIATELY when they entered combat. Did Pixo also reduce unknown armor values on the Boa, because I could go into tough brawls with Lances yesterday, and 'sometimes' come out on top, which I have to say is quite impressive. Now, though, I can't even approach a Lance without getting completely shredded and blown up. I used to be able to run into Lances without dying, now I can't even get within 100m of them. Also, I hate the new design, it looks like a wimpy indoor plastic vacuum. I wish I still had that toaster of a shop vac, it looked like it meant to be on the battlefield. AAAAAAAND, the Thunder clips the new pointless nose of the Boa, great design feature Pixo. lol     Anyone have a clue as to what is going on here? Any other Boa pilots experience this change as well? |
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Post by bloodynipples on Dec 20, 2017 18:44:58 GMT -5
Most Level 1 bots will get toasted fast. Ya gotta level it up.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Dec 20, 2017 18:50:02 GMT -5
Sonething seen or unseen may have changed forthe Boa... I rememver when the Toaster Boa was smaller... I havent reallyused it sincethen... When the new Boa model was first released I notoced the stats had it with 1Kmh slower speed.... But thats it for possible, seen changes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 18:55:06 GMT -5
Don't think so.
I use this little toaster as my Assault mech.
Maybe things are different on Android? Did they get the new model?
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Post by Doomsf on Dec 20, 2017 19:05:36 GMT -5
I been playing Boa for a while, it seems moving like a Golem and its a bit taller than before.
I think we got a golem minus the light hard point slot...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 19:07:21 GMT -5
Most Level 1 bots will get toasted fast. Ya gotta level it up. My bot is lvl 6, and my match history show scores averaging 450k damage with lvl 6 bots and lvl 5 weapons, and my piloting skills keeping me alive long enough to get there. My point is that before the last update, my Boas were good enough as they were to compete with most of my opponents. Now they don't stand a chance, and I'm sure it has nothing to do with level of bot and weapon, since I had a great time yesterday. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 19:08:46 GMT -5
Don't think so. I use this little toaster as my Assault mech. Maybe things are different on Android? Did they get the new model? Look to my post, I have pictures of the new model (as of Update 3.5) clipping with the Thunder weapon. And yeah, I do believe that the model had something to do with the change in performance of the bot. |
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 20, 2017 20:32:34 GMT -5
May be due to the change in hit box? We all know a smaller hit box takes fewer dmg,
but it's reli hard to compare the hit box of the old and new boa.
It is larger? Does the shape matters?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 20:44:02 GMT -5
May be due to the change in hit box? We all know a smaller hit box takes fewer dmg, but it's reli hard to compare the hit box of the old and new boa. It is larger? Does the shape matters? Tests can still be done now, as the iOS does not have the new Boa model yet. If you want to test this toaster out, then I can go into Custom game mode and spray it with either Thunder or Punisher fire as those weapons are more effected by the size of the hit box. If there's any certain range you want to test at, let me know. |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 20, 2017 21:26:51 GMT -5
Looks like the fat kid everyone picks on
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Post by Shahmatt on Dec 20, 2017 21:41:33 GMT -5
Would that hump in front some Thunder bullets?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 21:51:03 GMT -5
Would that hump in front some Thunder bullets? The OP said that the front hump/horn/or whatever it is will block some of your Thunder pellets/bullets when you fire. |
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Post by Shahmatt on Dec 20, 2017 21:58:02 GMT -5
Would that hump in front some Thunder bullets? The OP said that the front hump/horn/or whatever it is will block some of your Thunder pellets/bullets when you fire. He says the thunder appears to clip the bot. It does look very near and could have a slight clip. But this is not the same as blocking bullet spray. |
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 20, 2017 22:03:08 GMT -5
May be due to the change in hit box? We all know a smaller hit box takes fewer dmg, but it's reli hard to compare the hit box of the old and new boa. It is larger? Does the shape matters? Tests can still be done now, as the iOS does not have the new Boa model yet. If you want to test this toaster out, then I can go into Custom game mode and spray it with either Thunder or Punisher fire as those weapons are more effected by the size of the hit box. If there's any certain range you want to test at, let me know. lol I'm not a great fan of Boa so I wouldnt bother...see if others will seek your help. And thx bro. |
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Post by bloodynipples on Dec 21, 2017 7:57:00 GMT -5
What is it's stated hp and speed at 6 vs. your other lvl 6 bots?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 21, 2017 9:51:35 GMT -5
There was a change a few months ago to the way all the bots moved (Remember when the Heavies got speed buffs and no longer took forever to try and follow a small bot circling it?). Boa's change made it take longer strides. It still moved them at the same speed as far as how fast it moved the legs, but the motion change made the stride longer and made it travel further per step. We all applauded it at the time and enjoyed the faster speed... as an accidental buff. We figured it was accidental because the stats never changed... even though the bot was obviously faster. I think they just put it back to normal with the new model.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 21, 2017 10:11:51 GMT -5
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Post by kevmac on Dec 21, 2017 10:24:56 GMT -5
Most Level 1 bots will get toasted fast. Ya gotta level it up. Not sure about Boa,but Griff and Leo seem slower,is it even possible? |
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Post by dangit on Dec 21, 2017 14:00:42 GMT -5
I ran a speed test on Valley in Custom games Dom mode. One old style Boa L9 on iOS and one L9 new design on Andydroid. Granted not a scientific experiment, but this is what I found running the same path on both to capture beacons.
iOS time taken 2 minute 51 seconds to complete.
Andydroid time taken 2 minute 52 seconds to complete. Was dropped a little more to right than iOS drop.
Just looking at the new design on Andydroid when I was running the test it seems slower, stats are the same on both at L9 42 kmh and HP is the same.
Might be a perception of how the new design moves.
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Dec 21, 2017 15:01:49 GMT -5
I’m iOS and measured a level 5 Boa at 47.47 km/h (it’s listed speed is 37 km/h). I’ll measure again when the update drops on iOS.
Note that most bots are faster than their listed speed as discovered by ma’elKoth. There may be platform differences as well as his level 6 Rhino did run at the listed speed but my level 9 Rhino ran 18% faster than listed. We don’t have same levels to compare directly.
You can measure speed too with 2 accounts on 2 different devices and video recording. Position one bot on one side of Shenzhen and the other on the other. Record as you run the bot being measured in a straight line towards the other. Review the video to mark a time and distance towards the beginning of its run and another towards the end then plug into this equation..
(3600 / secondsDifference) * metersDifference / 1000 = km/h
Macwarrobots has a good idea to measure the hit box by spraying the Boa with Thunder/Punisher. I’ll try this experiment if I have time. In the meantime I’ve taken pictures of the current iOS Boa against the grid texture of buildings in Shenzhen and will compare the size with the new Boa.
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Post by Shahmatt on Dec 21, 2017 21:11:20 GMT -5
The Boa was a regular in my hangar before the skin change. After the change I don't notice any perceptible speed differences. It seems just as effective at shelving out damage (Thunder Orkan) as before. I think it eats less damage though.
Overall I like the new look, very snazzy!
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Post by Shahmatt on Dec 21, 2017 22:25:25 GMT -5
Also, the heavy slot is slightly offset to the right and the medium slot appears to be slightly wider off the body center compared to before. This will definitely aid strategic play and make the bot more effective. So I don't think it's Just q skin change. It's also an overall change in bot design for the better.
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Post by Shockwave on Dec 22, 2017 2:35:17 GMT -5
My Boa is one of my main bots since the beginning. I been using his before and after the update and too me it feels exactly the same.
I LOVE the new design. while the Boa is one of my most effective bot I always hated that stupid Box or Toaster with legs looks.
One advice, level up your Boa to MK2. The health reaches to 250,000 hp.
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