revonix
Destrier
There's no harm in capping beacons
Posts: 79
Karma: 23
Pilot name: New Revonix (iOS)/CrypticShadow (Android)/Shadow6105 (FBGR)
Platform: Multiple
Favorite robot: Rogatka. No regrets since owning one.
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Post by revonix on Dec 19, 2017 8:07:59 GMT -5
I have enough gold to buy one. Which should I get? Provided that I have a Rogatka already.
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Post by nosinov on Dec 19, 2017 8:14:38 GMT -5
Non, unfortunately. The Rog is superior in the rocket age.
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Post by MΞCHДИISΓIC on Dec 19, 2017 8:23:24 GMT -5
I would agree. Both used to be great bots but are situational at best now. What league are you in?
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revonix
Destrier
There's no harm in capping beacons
Posts: 79
Karma: 23
Pilot name: New Revonix (iOS)/CrypticShadow (Android)/Shadow6105 (FBGR)
Platform: Multiple
Favorite robot: Rogatka. No regrets since owning one.
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Post by revonix on Dec 19, 2017 8:30:14 GMT -5
Just starting my Android acc, in Private II
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Post by ironstar on Dec 19, 2017 8:46:10 GMT -5
I have gotten a lot of mileage out of my Galahad but it is a very situational bot. Against DB/RDBs you will die quickly but if you bring it out midgame when there are a lot of plasma on the field it can be very good. Great cornershooting ability and decent speed. The shield is very strong against plasma. Mine has taran and magnums and can take out an ancilot 1on1 quite easily. No problems rushing Zeus campers either, just turn the bot so the shield faces the enemy and you are in his face real quick. I have had 1on2 and 1on3 situations where I have been dancing around cover, rotating the shield from side to front in between enemy Zeus and taran firing cycles all while laying down the hurt and come out on top. Exhilarating stuff. Having said all that, my Galahad is shelved for the moment, in most situations my Rog is superior.
As for the Gareth it is viable until you hit Silver maybe low gold league. Then it is just too squishy. My galahad got me to expert II before it began to feel obsolete
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 19, 2017 8:55:31 GMT -5
Although I have yet to do it myself, I've often seen Gary used on maps such as Canyon late in battle. This is at Android Expert III. Gary can be seen, mopping up the damaged bots, and capping beacons when most of the snipers and midrange shooters are gone.
Having said that, I would hold off on Gary or Gala for now. I wouldn't be surprised if they received a buff sometime in the future, but for now, I'd look at a fifth slot or perhaps a Zeus.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Dec 19, 2017 8:55:49 GMT -5
I still play my Gareth (along with 2-3 Stalkers and a Cossack, maybe an aphid Gepard if it's a kill task) when I have light robot tasks.
I rarely play my Galahad in the current meta. Carnage is much more useful, Fujin is slightly better, and Boa is at least as effective while also twice the fun (to me). Galahad is too slow to outflank and offers too few hardpoints with too little armor to exchange fire in the open... it's still good for corner shooting but that's about it. In a head-to-head comparison: Gareth gives up a little firepower for about the same armor and a lot more speed.
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Post by rustedscrap on Dec 19, 2017 9:03:58 GMT -5
ROG alk the way. Rogs can see you all the way to champ league.
Otherwise if I had go pick I'd say Gary. Galahads just don't have the mobility to avoid rockets.
You be better off saving for a lance if u really want a Brit bot
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 19, 2017 9:12:07 GMT -5
Hold off til 3.5 and see. Lots of energy weapons out now due to the haechi. Redeemer is coming out as well. Which should put a premium on shield bots. Both are also a good counter to zarnages, snipers. I would go with Galahad. More weapons to cornershoot with and might be awesome to run with storm gusts. I use a twin aphid taran setup in gold 2.
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Post by snk on Dec 19, 2017 9:18:06 GMT -5
Not sure what the coming update, but I just replaced my level 10 or 11 Galahad with Lancelot, but my level 10 Rogatka along with my 3 Griffins still in my hanger. If you already have a Rogatka, go straight to Lancelot. I am in iOS Champions League, sometimes Master.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 19, 2017 9:26:34 GMT -5
Shocktrains will supposedly get fixed soon so that they don't go through the Galahad's shields. That would make the Galahad viable again. I still use my Galahad and haven't touched my Gareth in ages.
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Post by leavemealone on Dec 19, 2017 9:50:28 GMT -5
neither. just stop trying and cought up your money and pay up for the latest bots and weapons. this will save you time asking for advice on here. because neither of these bots is viable in the higher leagues.
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Post by endyu on Dec 19, 2017 11:22:38 GMT -5
I feel like a well piloted Gareth can make more of an impact than a Galahad. It's faster and can dodge splash well enough. Gareth is also smaller and if you play it right can make tarans/punishers miss quite often and it's a much better beacon capper.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 19, 2017 11:50:52 GMT -5
Out of the 2, I would pick the one that shores up a hole in my hangar. Lacking a Beacon Runner? Gary. Lacking a Beacon holder? Gala.
Yes they are both vulnerable to rockets.
Yes Shocktrain sucks.
Yes Ballistics now do dbl damage (stupidest buff ever) to shields.
However, Galas and Garys have the benefit of being... Knights.
If you read this while piloting either bot in a game, the Gods of the Sword and Shield will honor your performance and curse your enemies!
Knights of Honor, Pride, Righteousness.
Hear my call!
Forward to battle!
Put on your tabard and coat of arms... choose your armor! Pick up your Sword and Shield and lead the fight! Glory and renown await your actions as you clamor Into what is sure to become a wasteland of blight!
For this war seems never to end while I breathe breath. Red vs Blue, it seems, will never give an inch. Locked in this struggle we shall vie to the death! And continue until both of our own dooms are cinched!
-Gareth the Smaller circa Fall of 2016
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Dec 19, 2017 11:55:50 GMT -5
I would use the gold on component offers instead of either. Gary only goes so far then it will be extremely limited to useless. Galahad just doesn't stand up like it used to. If you can pick your battles well and totally avoid bots you don't want to mess with, Gala can be ok still. But if you get caught by anything with rockets you're done.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 19, 2017 12:16:05 GMT -5
Gareth, without question - if you're heart set on buying one of them. Both bots perish in a single rocket Salvo, so I'll always take speed over a single extra light slot when the HP difference is pretty meaningless. As others have said, Gary can be extremely effective at closing out close games but coming in late and turning the beacon advantage when the field isn't full of rockets. It can also be a very annoying bot for reds to deal with when piloted properly.
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 19, 2017 13:02:56 GMT -5
I would buy neither. Save and buy a Lance.
If you definitely want one of them, I'd go for Galahad, the extra armor and firepower is important. I think the Gareth is more fun to play though.
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Post by endyu on Dec 19, 2017 13:21:24 GMT -5
I would buy neither. Save and buy a Lance. If you definitely want one of them, I'd go for Galahad, the extra armor and firepower is important. I think the Gareth is more fun to play though. Gareth is honestly my favorite bot to pilot. Once you learn all the little tricks of corner shooting, when to have the shield up/down, and how to evade splash (somewhat)... it's a very rewarding bot to pilot.
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Post by Joopiter on Dec 19, 2017 15:24:25 GMT -5
I run both in expert I - master III. Although, there's some caveats to that... gareth I ONLY use when i'm pushing hard for beacons (like an event or tasks) and mine is lvl 12, usually with lvl 12 orkan and pinata. That way it'll at least do some good dmg if it's going down in a rocket fight. Galahad I run with lvl 12 mk 2 punishers to keep distance and do solid dmg. Otherwise it's not going to last long against tulus and orkans.
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 19, 2017 15:30:30 GMT -5
Non, unfortunately. The Rog is superior in the rocket age. I am not sure I agree. I like my Rog a lot, but my Galahad with punishers is possibly my favourite bot at the moment. I have enough range to hang back, can strip all the anciles, can corner shoot and can cap. With so much plasma I feel the shield bots are finding a new role. I don’t think Gareth has enough firepower, but Galahad IMO is solid.
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 19, 2017 15:32:46 GMT -5
As for rockets, I think it is important to note that many ancile-less bots will perish under a DB setup. For sure it will happen with either Gareth or Galahad and it can’t be helped. Awareness and picking your targets can help to mitigate this.
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Post by bloodynipples on Dec 19, 2017 17:38:00 GMT -5
I would save your gold, I think that Pix is going in a different direction with bots soon.
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Post by Shahmatt on Dec 19, 2017 20:30:14 GMT -5
I can confirm that the Gary is viable in Diamond 1. I prefer it to my Rog. But it depends on what role you are trying to fill. Maybe you can put up your hangar for comment.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Dec 19, 2017 20:54:19 GMT -5
well well.. those who said gary and gala not viable in higher league means you're not experimenting enough. I still run gary in Expert 3 android and knocking Expert 2 door at the moment. The only weakness for my gary is against RDB and DB. Since there are many dashes around, there is more and more plasma and energy weapon out there. This makes shield bots still viable to play. You need to know your opponents, take a peek from far on what red's coming with. avoid RDB and DB at all cost.
since you're still in lower league, maybe gary is the best option for you to have. so you can save half gold that require to buy gala.
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Post by copilotjesus on Dec 20, 2017 1:07:04 GMT -5
I still play Gareth with Taran/Magnum for late game beacon capping. It outrun Aphids, and I'm assuming the new Storm as well. Sometimes I get wrecked by RDB variants, but there are times when I can also take down multiple bots with it too.
Galahad always seemed too slow and bulky in comparison. I was disappointed with it when I got it. Since, I've tried various builds to find a good fit for it. It seems best suited for pushing beacons on longer maps like Canyon.
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Post by Alpha on Dec 20, 2017 7:08:16 GMT -5
I have both and love both, The Rog might be better but it all depends on what you are expecting from each bot. if you have not got a Lance yet though i would save for that first.
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Post by optimusprime on Dec 20, 2017 9:10:37 GMT -5
Just go for gallahad,you wont regret it! It doesnt matter that he is weak in the current meta,that will change soon.Anyway he is gonna be your ravorite bot all the way up to expert.You will love that bot once you start clashing with all those lancelots.One on one plasmahad vs ancilot,plasmahad allways win.And to me there is no better looking bot,he looks like a transformer bro,lol that has to count for something.I wish pixonic allows us to pay for upgrades of current bots,so i can put two more tarans instead of magnums on my gala lol.
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revonix
Destrier
There's no harm in capping beacons
Posts: 79
Karma: 23
Pilot name: New Revonix (iOS)/CrypticShadow (Android)/Shadow6105 (FBGR)
Platform: Multiple
Favorite robot: Rogatka. No regrets since owning one.
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Post by revonix on Dec 20, 2017 10:21:05 GMT -5
Turns out that I got the Galahad for myself, and for my current league (I got promoted to Bronze II), it is a great bot. Currently, there is a lot of energy weapons, and somehow, a lot Punishers, so Gala's shield is really helpful at soaking up the damage there, for me at least. I'll stick to the Gala until I want to replace it or it becomes obsolete. Until then, it will stay in my hangar. As for saving for the Lance, I actually have enough gold to buy it in my iOS account. Though 5th slot is also an option.
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