Don't like new mm?

Nope, it's a huge improvement over the Old one. It's gots some quirks and a couple things that needs fixing, especially intentionally tanking ones Elo. But, it is way easier for Pix to maiantain and improve and is the foundation of the upcoming leagues and potentially different game modes we're getting. The Old MM was clunky and full of hard coded exceptions perfect for abuse.

I mean it keeps getting better and better as it settles down. Games are much better, more balanced, closer outcomes, and more challenging of my skills and attention than ever before. Only downside is I'm not winning three quarters of my matches and being too or second scorer every single match.

That soul train turned my frown upside down

Also, I agree with zman. The new system is quirky and certainly imperfect, yet results in better team balance and is more challenging. I like it but only because I enjoy having competition. I suppose those accustomed to steamrolling new players may have a difficult time adjusting.

You might want to google the Dunning Krueger Effect, it's a cognitive bias.

Hard coded tiers and size multipliers wouldn't work quite as nicely as you think. And, it is actually extremely close to the clunky highly flawed system that just got replaced.

Ironically, the new MM will adjust Elo down for the newbie with an 8/2 and give them good games. So, yeah, it'll actually cure that problem extremely well.

I do agree transparency would be more beneficial.

i am a new player, and this is 「fluffernutter」ing awful. i got into this game pretty hard a week ago and started researching what was good. i have a hanger of four medium mechs 3-6, its all i have. with pinatas ive been 「dookie」 kicking everything around me and even putting a hurt on magnum geps. but now because i did so well im facing 12/10 leos and the like. i literally get one shot every match. i only play 1 or 2 frustrating games a day now before i quit in disgust.

ive easily played 80 matches since the android drop, its not getting better. i lose one in a 「dookie」 stomp, then get carried the next game where i do nothing... if you want to engage in personal attacks it just makes you look like a jackass. but the idea here is to protect newer players, i dont have the luxury of busting out my 12-12 roster of gold or wsp mechs so dont get all 「fluffernutter」ing high and mighty with me douchebag

im sorry, i overeacted anyway. its just really frustrating.

Yowsers - I fired up a game on my secondary iOS account on my phone - I play when I have to wait on others. I haven't touched it in 3 weeks. On that account, I'm a level 20 with a 4 slot hanger with a lvl 3-5 medium and light bots and weps at most lvl 5 - I rarely play it so it's not like I have an awesome record or anything. I thought with my performance score pretty low like zero, it would give me some okay matches right off the bat since we are a week in already.

What a slaughter fest on the first three matches - trident carnages, zeus's, rhinos, Brit bots, lvl 10 heavies, geps, pink elephants, purple dragons - you name it, I think it was in that match venting hatred at me. I just stopped because it wasn't worth it. I can see why some folks are up in arms about this MM implementation. It was just pure madness - some players were 2000-3000 victories with line ups that I see in my primary account - they are still popping onto the game for the first time? I guess that could be true....

I thought I had a bad time as a level 30 player with a H6/10 line up - that was a Stroll in the park vs the cluster 「fluffernutter」 in this secondary account.

All of you lower level players have my utmost sympathy - there seems to be no rationale why it is that awful and I can see why you are frustrated. My only relief is that I can run back to my primary account....I don't know if I would stick with the game if my secondary was the only thing I had. I realize it was only three games, but it matches up with what you are posting.

And to all those on this forum who can only yell at these lower level players to just suck it up, maybe you should go experience the utter crap fest they are experiencing. It is much worse than what I experienced.

Hey guys, be fair! We all know, the new system will take its time. Just try to imagine, what immense data you need, to balance this game.
A week? A month? With how many players? Just let it settle. It'll work out. If not, well, we can discuss it,
and seal clubbers still got the rant section of this forum. Win-win Situation, I say...

From my own experience i learned how to play from the ex seal clubbers how to play and move and set up botz. Now the new seal clubbers are all lvl 12 with lvl 12 weapons usually long range and dont move at all. Since no system has been implemented on how to tutor new players proper how are new players supposed to learn? Certainly not in game since now all it seems to teach is pay to win. Dont get me wrong i dont condone sealclubbing but i myself do love playing with 3/9 gepards put me in the old mid silver range and most bots i was against were my lvl up to lvl 6 heavy bots. I dont see how people could call that seal clubbing. What i did see was people with weapons lower than their bot lvls and imbalance of bot lvls in their hangers. A lvl 2 bot with their lvl 6 heavy bots for example. You want less seal? Educate them in game how to build a hanger and keep it balanced. You can blame gepard players all you want for seal clubbing....real blame goes to pixonic for not helping new players proper. And nothing new with MM has fixxed this problem.

I've well over 2000 victories. Don't misunderstand. I'm not here to brag. Besides, victories are nothing to brag to begin with.
What I do want to relate by saying this is I've played a lot before (plus the loses that are not recorded?). Yes, before. BUT not so much anymore.

Didn't we all started from 1/1 in this game?
Didn't we get thrashed by all the seal clubbers when we first started?
Didn't we all progress and got pass that stage?
Didn't every other so called pros or experience players went through all of the above?

Question #1:
So if seal clubbers made the game unbearable, so why are there still so many "experienced" players around?
Why didn't they quit back then when they were noobs?

Answer:
1. Probably because the old MM isn't so bad after all.

Question #2:
So why all this [female dogs] ing about seal clubbers?
*yay! Finally found my chance to use [female dog] in my post - I just gotta love Rant Section

Answer:
Probably because old seal clubbers have collected enough au, so to keep their competitive edge, they started complaining
*yes I'm guilty of accusing without basis since I couldn't imagine what other reasons there can be with Question #1 answered - but don't take it too offensively, I'm ranting now ya know

Question #3:
So why fix something that is not broken (the MM)? Whyyyyyyy ?!!!!!!!!!!!
*sry, my keyboard "y", "?" and "!" was stuck when I typed "Whyyyyyyy ?!!!!!!!!!!!" in that particular order

Answer:
1. Because not enough players were quitting in the old MM --> need a worse MM to make more players quit
*yes, it's sarcasm

2. Because in the old MM, players who've progressed get to choose the "tiers" they want to battle in. Players can choose to club or fight with opponents of different level, plus winning au was a lot easier. But with this new MM, you can't choose. You are forced to face opponents of equal level (and in my and many many other cases, opponent of higher level and better weapons and better bots). Hence making au is much harder to earn. Solution --> spend rl money to speed up everything.
*yes, that's my conspiracy theory
*and don't tell me to wait for months to wait for the MM to [firetruck] ing settle down, because it didn't take me that long to get through "being seal clubbed" stage when I first started this game

Then again, as I've said before somewhere in this forum, since Pix is a business entity, it's only understandable they want to make it pay-to-win game.
If Pix account is seeing in the red, game will close down anyway. So at least be grateful that Pix invented this game in the first place.

Wait...I started off ranting, but do I end up supporting Pix? Whyyyyyyy ?!!!!!!!!!!!
Noooooooooooooooooo, I'm confused
*sometimes my keyboard "o" gets stucked too

*loses sanity bwahahahaha*

Ty pix I went to sliver from bronze to avoid seal clubbing now you've turned me into one with new mm. Seems all the new mm does is make you a sealclubber or gets you clubbed. I haven't enjoyed game since new mm has been introduced

I like the new MM.
Games are by now better balanced than they were before, besides the occasional statistical outlier that yet has to find its place.
The fact that I meet more skilled (and higher levelled) players more often made me a better player. And besides that: my winrate is steady, with an upward tendency (76% atm) and I make gold and silver on a quite nice level (for my expectations)

I would agree that a league system including tiers would improve the playing experience by offering more playstyles.
Would be cool to be able to run a medium hangar without beeing thrown in what I usually face.

Yet a new tier system would need strict reglementations considering bot type/level and weapon level.
The last thing I want to see again is 2/12 Geps.

For those crying that clubbing has become more difficult: ooooh... let me empty that tube of empathy for y... ooops, already empty.
For those who invested in something obviously broken (Geps) to grief beginners: read the EULA. And: what goes around goes around...

Trusting the War Robots community on how the MM will go, or what players should or should do, is about as bad as trusting PIX this time around. No support for players by players. Too many of yall lining up behind PIX. They dont have a record of being dependable.

I'm a little confused by your statement. First of all I wouldn't consider myself a sealclubber using gepards the way I did. Second of all farmers are the bread and butter of this game.  You kill off farming your going to lose a huge player base. Fortunately farming is not dead just harder to do.  In all these pay to win games as that's what it's become now you need players that whales can kill. For those who don't know whales are the ones pix is only interested  in keeping happy. Why. Cause whales are the ones that spend money.  What pix is trying to do is turn farmers and hook new players into becoming whales as they are more interested  in short term fast profits than long term satisfied customers.  The new mm only works for TT players. Reason for that is it is based on the elo system,  which is what is used in chess. Chess pieces have no lvls or weapons with separate lvls ,which is why it works for chess the TT in this game and not for beginners or mid range players.  Need further proof?  I challenge you to start a new account and see for yourself how great the new mm system works.  What I see for the future of this game is if it isn't changed to a more even mm system, even the old one was better, but did need work, is that farmers and mid range players will slow down playing, this will disgruntle the whales of the game. And cause people of all lvls to leave and find something else to do.  Sealclubbers and farmers might be the official reason pix put in new mm. But the real reason was to make more money fast despite long term detrimental effects it might make long term in the game.