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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 0:44:14 GMT -5
This event has really made me think about how I play this game and how to enjoy it. I made it as high as Expert 2 with mostly 8-10 gear. When Dash were released, I invested in chests assuming, like the prior event, that the rewards would be high. I won a Kumiho, but TBH I spent more than I should have. In any case I leveled it to 9 to max speed and played on. I soon started getting smoked by DIESS gear. I was trying to rise through the ranks or at the very least maintain my level. I really questioned the time I was investing playing since the game seemed so unbalanced.
I decided to stop trying to keep up and prior to the Christmas event, I made the decision to add more variety to my bots. I focused on beacons and started dropping in league ranking. But, I hit a sweet spot around Expert 3 with the occasional relapse into Diamond 1, the games actually started getting really fun and really close. There was a bit of a MM adjustment in here too.
It got me thinking about the emphasis on damage in the stats. More damage equals more silver. But more damage also means that when you lose, you rise, pitting you against superior bots more quickly, necessitating stronger bots and weapons to compete. There seems to be an urgency to the game cause by the relatively quick climb in levels and league standing that gets people stuck in this rat race or earning Ag and upgrading.
I noticed during this event a correlation between my win rate and the beacon tasks. I am having intense games, am a factor in most games, winning 65-ish percent and often gaining 5 gold. But when I win, the league point jump is marginal. When I lose, due to comparatively low damage, I lose 17-22 points. With kill tasks, I often rise, win or lose, because I am using different bots and doing more damage. When I lose, there is no drop or it is minimal.
After this event, I am focusing on winning. I have 400 million Ag saved for updgrades. No robots higher than 9 and no weapons higher than 10. I just bought a Doc, which I have always wanted, will not get the Bulgasari from the event but have enough components that I will spend ~8K Au for one Royale’s with or components to finish it. I will do the same for Haechi when I have enough components. I am changing my emphasis from damage to winning and playing with bots I enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 1:49:39 GMT -5
I found this out last event (Halloween). My win rate surged up to 70%, got more Au, etc.
After the event, I too decided to focus on winning first, damage second. But if you play in the right league, you won't get much Au. It's a little easier now to earn Au due to the new MM, but that's only temporary. I don't enjoy grinding for AU, and the amount I make is pretty insignificant anyways (I make bulk from daily tasks), so it's just more fun to blow things up. Blowing things up does mean more dmg, but it's not quite the same. I do go for the win, or team tactics, or flanking the reds, whatever is most fun to me at the moment.
I got a new high, >700K.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 17, 2017 2:07:20 GMT -5
Glad to hear these inputs. I normally shun playing anything higher than a medium bot so damage is always a bit of a challenge for me. Theres a lot of versatility gained once you use more mobile bots..and a lot of fun and it also forces one to expand battle awareness. Ive since tried to play the role of provocateur, helping my team by luring or hunting bots key to defense or offense, crippling key bots for my team and generally causing headaches for the reds. Sometimes Im deep in red territory alone going after artillery or a sniper with aphid jesse. Also capping beacons when I can. Funny thing is, the more fun I seemed to have the more damage I did. It wasnt conscious.
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 8:09:29 GMT -5
Funny thing is, the more fun I seemed to have the more damage I did. It wasnt conscious. I have noticed that, too. I will play a match and be engaging, disengaging and moving around to support and then find that I got Au for beacons and damage. My focus the entire match was on what I thought my team needed to win at the time. Maybe that is the problem with heavy bots: it is more difficult to disengage or I was less aware of the surroundings and putting myself in too many losing situations. Maybe I will come out of this foray back to light/medium bots and be a juggernaut with heavies!! ? |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 9:26:25 GMT -5
Great post op. Noticed this too when running beacon event task.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 17, 2017 9:39:19 GMT -5
Funny thing is, the more fun I seemed to have the more damage I did. It wasnt conscious. I have noticed that, too. I will play a match and be engaging, disengaging and moving around to support and then find that I got Au for beacons and damage. My focus the entire match was on what I thought my team needed to win at the time. Maybe that is the problem with heavy bots: it is more difficult to disengage or I was less aware of the surroundings and putting myself in too many losing situations. Maybe I will come out of this foray back to light/medium bots and be a juggernaut with heavies!! ? Great to hear! Im curious as to what hangar you run. Im running a blitz hangar in gold 2. Aphid (lv7) Jesse (MK2 lv12) Shocktrain (lv7) Rogatka (lv9) Taran/mag (lv7) Hover (lv7) Tulu (lv9)/Storm (lv7) Doc (lv9) Zeus (lv7) Carnage (lv7) - to be replaced with orkan kumiho. This has served me well so far. Im averaging 350-500dmg a game. Best game 700+. Although those have gone down recently due to pre event tankers. I seem to have a knack for running into them. |
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 9:44:40 GMT -5
Here is my hangar and a recent battle that was good.   |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 9:56:57 GMT -5
Apparently there is an untold minimum damage requirement by Pixonic or you end up in the LPQ. Keep that in mind.
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 10:07:32 GMT -5
Apparently there is an untold minimum damage requirement by Pixonic or you end up in the LPQ. Keep that in mind. Yeah, I am not talking about forsaking damage, just not focusing so much on it. That being said, i recently played a match where i did absolutely no damage, played to the end and got something like 9 beacons. I think I earned ~ 65K Ag. |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 10:16:27 GMT -5
Apparently there is an untold minimum damage requirement by Pixonic or you end up in the LPQ. Keep that in mind. Yeah, I am not talking about forsaking damage, just not focusing so much on it. That being said, i recently played a match where i did absolutely no damage, played to the end and got something like 9 beacons. I think I earned ~ 65K Ag. Not saying you were and I've done similar low damage. Just didn't know the rule myself because pix is incompetent |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 17, 2017 10:16:45 GMT -5
That looks like a good set up! Will work on my gary and stalker. Theyve got a few levels to go. Hopefully a lot more pilots try this type of gameplay though. Its a lot more engaging, rewarding and team friendly.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 17, 2017 10:21:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I am not talking about forsaking damage, just not focusing so much on it. That being said, i recently played a match where i did absolutely no damage, played to the end and got something like 9 beacons. I think I earned ~ 65K Ag. Not saying you were and I've done similar low damage. Just didn't know the rule myself because pix is incompetent Any idea what that magic number is? Ive done some low scoring games as well when I felt my team wasnt bothering with beacons and chose not to engage in favor of capping. Particularly when facing aphids, no need to bother with them. Just keep going and you should take minimal damage. There are also times I'll faux engage a group on route to reinforcing a position to buy blues time to take it then move on to the next mission. |
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 10:33:18 GMT -5
That looks like a good set up! Will work on my gary and stalker. Theyve got a few levels to go. Hopefully a lot more pilots try this type of gameplay though. Its a lot more engaging, rewarding and team friendly. I like it. I think I just like having variety. I was lucky to get a free second deck so I usually have robots I am upgrading or want to use in that one. Anyway, I have been really enjoying the game lately. I understand all the frustration with the new bots and weapons, Especially since I have stockpiles of Au and WSP I had hoped to use. Now I just go with the flow trying to win. |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 10:33:43 GMT -5
Not saying you were and I've done similar low damage. Just didn't know the rule myself because pix is incompetent Any idea what that magic number is? Ive done some low scoring games as well when I felt my team wasnt bothering with beacons and chose not to engage in favor of capping. Particularly when facing aphids, no need to bother with them. Just keep going and you should take minimal damage. There are also times I'll faux engage a group on route to reinforcing a position to buy blues time to take it then move on to the next mission. I'm not sure but the guys in the discussion might have an idea. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12706/get-out-lq |
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Post by Carbonite on Dec 17, 2017 10:35:57 GMT -5
Not saying you were and I've done similar low damage. Just didn't know the rule myself because pix is incompetent[/quote] Didn’t mean that to sound snarky. I was just clarifying. I would be interested to know an actual number. You would think they would take other things into account like amount of time in the match, beacons and movement. |
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 17, 2017 21:19:34 GMT -5
The best reaction to the game change is to play it as u like. Don't follow their rules.
Don't focus on damage.
Don't grind.
Don't pay attention to the events.
Don't use gold on the lucky draws / black market.
Don't take the special offers.
Don't pay.
Don't entertain the tankers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:23:32 GMT -5
Apparently there is an untold minimum damage requirement by Pixonic or you end up in the LPQ. Keep that in mind. Doubtful, I run my cossack hangar, all with shields, and have yet to see even a whiff of the LPQ. |
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 21:31:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 1:38:16 GMT -5
OK...and...? Still play a cossacks with shields, still haven't gone into the LPQ. Not really sure how the link is meant to help. |
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