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Post by snk on Dec 16, 2017 12:13:09 GMT -5
Got into iOS Champions League since August, highest League rating before DIESS was around 7000. Since DIESS, League ratings still around 5600-6000.
Play a few games everyday (iOS account) from beginning of this season, rating reached 5300, drop to 5000 rating just these 2-3 days and the game matched me with so much DIESS. Had quite a few games today, 11/12 players start with Dash or Inquisitors except me. May be Champions League is almost exclusive to Real $$ player in iOS.
I won’t get the Bulgasari from my iOS account, because I just managed to complete the event task on GR account few hours ago. I want to know the skill player without DIESS or MKII in iOS, what rating can you reach at current situation? I can barely stay in ios Champions League with my 10.5/11.5 none DIESS HANGER.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Dec 16, 2017 17:39:58 GMT -5
Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 16, 2017 17:53:12 GMT -5
Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss I don't know about whether it is always pushing down by league but it is definitely true that there is a continual churn where you always get a layer of stronger bots added b/c that is how the company generates new revenue. Ppl are shocked when they put 4 medium hardpoints on a bot or dash, now 5 dashes, but it's software. They whole thing is fiction. They can roll out a bot with 10 hardpoints if they want. What ppl are complaining about, aside from the dash rollout which was awful but is now in the rearview mirror, is mostly griping from folks who just don't want to stay up with the current meta.
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Post by amidf on Dec 16, 2017 18:03:05 GMT -5
The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days.
You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 16, 2017 18:15:49 GMT -5
The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days. You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2. Interesting. I dropped to D1 b/c I was sick of always running into everyone running 12/Mk2 bots and weapons when all of my bots and most of my weapons are 8-10. I had been planning on taking another climb up the expert ladder after the event. I'll still be running 8-10 stuff but pretty well loaded now with a couple of lances, kumiho, bulgesari and lots of orkans and component wpns.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 16, 2017 19:45:41 GMT -5
Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss I don't know about whether it is always pushing down by league but it is definitely true that there is a continual churn where you always get a layer of stronger bots added b/c that is how the company generates new revenue. Ppl are shocked when they put 4 medium hardpoints on a bot or dash, now 5 dashes, but it's software. They whole thing is fiction. They can roll out a bot with 10 hardpoints if they want. What ppl are complaining about, aside from the dash rollout which was awful but is now in the rearview mirror, is mostly griping from folks who just don't want to stay up with the current meta. LOL you act like keeping up with the current meta is a walk in the park, smh. Unless you are an unbelievable grinder you are forking out a ?poo-poo? load of cash.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 19:52:21 GMT -5
Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss I don't know about whether it is always pushing down by league but it is definitely true that there is a continual churn where you always get a layer of stronger bots added b/c that is how the company generates new revenue. Ppl are shocked when they put 4 medium hardpoints on a bot or dash, now 5 dashes, but it's software. They whole thing is fiction. They can roll out a bot with 10 hardpoints if they want. What ppl are complaining about, aside from the dash rollout which was awful but is now in the rearview mirror, is mostly griping from folks who just don't want to stay up with the current meta. People are complaining about the likelihood of spending a lot of money recently and not enjoying enough benefit for it. In a way it equates to being conned. While I haven't bought a single dash or dies stuff I sympathise with them. But we all know Pix is a dirty operator as evidenced by the casinos and quick changes and stuff. If people keep on paying for stuff Pix will keep developing it and reinforce that their practice is acceptable. The behaviour associated with wanting the latest competitive stuff is what is being exploited. Buyer beware.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 20:26:08 GMT -5
The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days. You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2. I actually dropped a little when the Kbots first came out. Then I went from M3 to within 100 points of Champion. This is back when I was still 9.2/10.5 and before MKII was out. I didn't even optimize my hanger back then, as my hanger is geared for more anti-Kbot this week until the latest change in MM again. A lot of the high dmg scores in Legend hangers is due to state-sponsored clubbing of Experts with much lower skill. If you look at the Legends now, there's a small drop in dmg output, and some took a huge dive with the change. So I'd say the new MM is working, and it should have been like this from the beginning. Besides the Shocktrain, all the new DIE stuff is counterable by skill and legacy stuff, so I expect to make it back up. It's much harder to improve skill, so I don't expect much to change even with the release of MKII and the Hover bot. I broke a new high score last night, and will probably top my high avg dmg score too. I understand most Experts don't have the skill to match up against Champions, let alone a Kbot hanger full of them. Even before the release of MKII, there were many 12/12 hangers stuck in Expert. I'd say this is the norm now in Expert2 or E1, to be 12/12. I don't know why it took them this long to make this change, over 3 months since the release of the Kbots. It was clearly needed before the Kbots.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 20:45:31 GMT -5
The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days. You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2. I actually dropped a little when the Kbots first came out. Then I went from M3 to within 100 points of Champion. This is back when I was still 9.2/10.5 and before MKII was out. I didn't even optimize my hanger back then, as my hanger is geared for more anti-Kbot this week until the latest change in MM again. A lot of the high dmg scores in Legend hangers is due to state-sponsored clubbing of Experts with much lower skill. If you look at the Legends now, there's a small drop in dmg output, and some took a huge dive with the change. So I'd say the new MM is working, and it should have been like this from the beginning. Besides the Shocktrain, all the new DIE stuff is counterable by skill and legacy stuff, so I expect to make it back up. It's much harder to improve skill, so I don't expect much to change even with the release of MKII and the Hover bot. I broke a new high score last night, and will probably top my high avg dmg score too. I understand most Experts don't have the skill to match up against Champions, let alone a Kbot hanger full of them. Even before the release of MKII, there were many 12/12 hangers stuck in Expert. I'd say this is the norm now in Expert2 or E1, to be 12/12. I don't know why it took them this long to make this change, over 3 months since the release of the Kbots. It was clearly needed before the Kbots. Bots and weapons selection associated with their levelling is by far the largest determiner of success. Skill is far less significant and hence overrated. P2W game designers build in the illusion of skill.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 16, 2017 21:44:03 GMT -5
I don't know about whether it is always pushing down by league but it is definitely true that there is a continual churn where you always get a layer of stronger bots added b/c that is how the company generates new revenue. Ppl are shocked when they put 4 medium hardpoints on a bot or dash, now 5 dashes, but it's software. They whole thing is fiction. They can roll out a bot with 10 hardpoints if they want. What ppl are complaining about, aside from the dash rollout which was awful but is now in the rearview mirror, is mostly griping from folks who just don't want to stay up with the current meta. People are complaining about the likelihood of spending a lot of money recently and not enjoying enough benefit for it. In a way it equates to being conned. While I haven't bought a single dash or dies stuff I sympathise with them. Free stuff I have gotten from pix in 6 months of playing (not including the Bulgesari I will be getting in a few days): Kumhiho, Lance, Lance, Scourge, Butch x 4x trebs, 3x Tempest, 2x Scourge, 2x shocktrain, storm, 2x carnage, rhino, gareth, 3x orkans, 4x tarans, 3x anciles, 4th hangar spot, 5th hangar spot, second hangar ... and a bunch of silver stuff and other assorted gold and wsp I don't particularly want. Since I have started playing, they have heavily buffed silver weapons like punishers and molots to the point where they offer credible situational advantages over some of the gold and component weapons (range, 2x vs armor, takes down ancile). I am all for the community holding the developer accountable but I am also for reason and perspective-taking. Given my experience, why should I sympathize with ppl who says that Pixo is a bad actor and forces people to P2W? They haven't been bad actors towards me and they definitely do not have me paying to win. If anything, they have created reward system that allows them to generate revenue and me to improve gear through regular play. That is a reasonable exchange and the opposite of a bad faith negotiation. From a community standpoint, I find it much better than other games in the field. Which ones are there that have a better model? None, WoT, which may or may not ever get released and a bunch of crap that is far more P2W than this game is from what I have seen. One of the big reasons I enjoy the game is that it is not P2W in the sense or degree that many/most other games are. You can compete at basically every level of this game except for a very thin slice of C level without paying to win and personally, esp. lately, I have no real problems with MM. As to your point about unhappy people, the best suggestion I can give is that ppl who do not actually enjoy the game would probably be happier finding something else to do instead of keep playing and complaining about something they claim not to like. Pix is better than pretty much any of the other software developers I have seen in that space. Yes, they take advantage of human vices -- mostly greed and desire to dominate -- and use it to exploit suckers or ppl who are simply willing to pay, but when I compare the game to 99 percent of all of the other games I have tried, it is awesome on many levels. I think that ppl were rightly angry over the dash rollout but to Pixo's credit, they appear to have hit on a revenue stream that allows them to reward regular players with better gear while still engaging in a churn of new bots that I think will keep the game fresh and interesting.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 22:46:21 GMT -5
People are complaining about the likelihood of spending a lot of money recently and not enjoying enough benefit for it. In a way it equates to being conned. While I haven't bought a single dash or dies stuff I sympathise with them. Free stuff I have gotten from pix in 6 months of playing (not including the Bulgesari I will be getting in a few days): Kumhiho, Lance, Lance, Scourge, Butch x 4x trebs, 3x Tempest, 2x Scourge, 2x shocktrain, storm, 2x carnage, rhino, gareth, 3x orkans, 4x tarans, 3x anciles, 4th hangar spot, 5th hangar spot, second hangar ... and a bunch of silver stuff and other assorted gold and wsp I don't particularly want. Since I have started playing, they have heavily buffed silver weapons like punishers and molots to the point where they offer credible situational advantages over some of the gold and component weapons (range, 2x vs armor, takes down ancile). I am all for the community holding the developer accountable but I am also for reason and perspective-taking. Given my experience, why should I sympathize with ppl who says that Pixo is a bad actor and forces people to P2W? They haven't been bad actors towards me and they definitely do not have me paying to win. If anything, they have created reward system that allows them to generate revenue and me to improve gear through regular play. That is a reasonable exchange and the opposite of a bad faith negotiation. From a community standpoint, I find it much better than other games in the field. Which ones are there that have a better model? None, WoT, which may or may not ever get released and a bunch of crap that is far more P2W than this game is from what I have seen. One of the big reasons I enjoy the game is that it is not P2W in the sense or degree that many/most other games are. You can compete at basically every level of this game except for a very thin slice of C level without paying to win and personally, esp. lately, I have no real problems with MM. As to your point about unhappy people, the best suggestion I can give is that ppl who do not actually enjoy the game would probably be happier finding something else to do instead of keep playing and complaining about something they claim not to like. Pix is better than pretty much any of the other software developers I have seen in that space. Yes, they take advantage of human vices -- mostly greed and desire to dominate -- and use it to exploit suckers or ppl who are simply willing to pay, but when I compare the game to 99 percent of all of the other games I have tried, it is awesome on many levels. I think that ppl were rightly angry over the dash rollout but to Pixo's credit, they appear to have hit on a revenue stream that allows them to reward regular players with better gear while still engaging in a churn of new bots that I think will keep the game fresh and interesting. U didn't pay for anything so using your self as an example means nothing in this context. This game is P2W maybe not as much at the mid leagues where u r but higher up it most certainly is. At no stage did anyone say that pix is forcing anybody to pay. People are unhappy in this context bc they got conned. Thousands of dollars. Also, because there are other dirty operators in the market which may or may not be bigger crooks than Pix, does not justify Pix being a crook towards their player base and actively seeking dishonest mechanisms to exploit people. Your feedback sounds like a Pix PR excercise.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 22:55:10 GMT -5
Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss I don't know about whether it is always pushing down by league but it is definitely true that there is a continual churn where you always get a layer of stronger bots added b/c that is how the company generates new revenue. Ppl are shocked when they put 4 medium hardpoints on a bot or dash, now 5 dashes, but it's software. They whole thing is fiction. They can roll out a bot with 10 hardpoints if they want. What ppl are complaining about, aside from the dash rollout which was awful but is now in the rearview mirror, is mostly griping from folks who just don't want to stay up with the current meta. Stay up at what cost? $10k or $20k ..... or what per year? The dash rollout is not in the rear view mirror bc most not paying players probably had a chance of getting 0 or 1 dash bot. This is whole thing is not fiction because people's time and money is involved. It is just as real as a virtual server that runs this forum and what most of the internet is running on. Frequent cyclic releases of op stuff is not the best way for a company to make money as evidenced by top gaming companies revenue results.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 22:56:57 GMT -5
The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days. You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2. Interesting. I dropped to D1 b/c I was sick of always running into everyone running 12/Mk2 bots and weapons when all of my bots and most of my weapons are 8-10. I had been planning on taking another climb up the expert ladder after the event. I'll still be running 8-10 stuff but pretty well loaded now with a couple of lances, kumiho, bulgesari and lots of orkans and component wpns. U dropped because you were sick of...... what method did you use to drop and manipulate your league standing?
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 16, 2017 23:49:38 GMT -5
Interesting. I dropped to D1 b/c I was sick of always running into everyone running 12/Mk2 bots and weapons when all of my bots and most of my weapons are 8-10. I had been planning on taking another climb up the expert ladder after the event. I'll still be running 8-10 stuff but pretty well loaded now with a couple of lances, kumiho, bulgesari and lots of orkans and component wpns. U dropped because you were sick of...... what method did you use to drop and manipulate your league standing? I didn’t drop much. E3to D1. I focus on beacons and winning rather than high damage. I don’t usually level my bots or weapons much above 8-10 because I like to run different bots with a lot of different weapon loads. After the tourney I may go for high damage for awhile to see where I land.
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Post by T34 on Dec 16, 2017 23:54:16 GMT -5
U dropped because you were sick of...... what method did you use to drop and manipulate your league standing? I didn’t drop much. E3to D1. I focus on beacons and winning rather than high damage. I don’t usually level my bots or weapons much above 8-10. After the tourney I may go for high damage for awhile to see where I land. Manipulation none the less. Not that I care.
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Post by snk on Dec 17, 2017 4:29:04 GMT -5
I don’t like current War Robots, just DIESS and MKII. In just 4 months ago, around 10 robots or 30-40 difference builds have their role or advantage in different situations. You could find Lancelot, Galahad, Gareth, DB/RDB/PDB Griffin, Fury, Carnage, Rogatka, Fujin, Rhino etc in top players in 4 months ago, now just DIESS all the way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 4:47:27 GMT -5
I actually dropped a little when the Kbots first came out. Then I went from M3 to within 100 points of Champion. This is back when I was still 9.2/10.5 and before MKII was out. I didn't even optimize my hanger back then, as my hanger is geared for more anti-Kbot this week until the latest change in MM again. A lot of the high dmg scores in Legend hangers is due to state-sponsored clubbing of Experts with much lower skill. If you look at the Legends now, there's a small drop in dmg output, and some took a huge dive with the change. So I'd say the new MM is working, and it should have been like this from the beginning. Besides the Shocktrain, all the new DIE stuff is counterable by skill and legacy stuff, so I expect to make it back up. It's much harder to improve skill, so I don't expect much to change even with the release of MKII and the Hover bot. I broke a new high score last night, and will probably top my high avg dmg score too. I understand most Experts don't have the skill to match up against Champions, let alone a Kbot hanger full of them. Even before the release of MKII, there were many 12/12 hangers stuck in Expert. I'd say this is the norm now in Expert2 or E1, to be 12/12. I don't know why it took them this long to make this change, over 3 months since the release of the Kbots. It was clearly needed before the Kbots. Bots and weapons selection associated with their levelling is by far the largest determiner of success. Skill is far less significant and hence overrated. P2W game designers build in the illusion of skill. Did you read my post? I don't have any DIE gear, just legacy bots. When I was around 9.2/10.5, I was 100 points from making Champion. I was gaining lots of points, and moving upward, not downward with all the max level Kbots out there. That means I'm fighting Kbots that are 2 levels higher than me. You don't need MKII or Kbots. I'm better at fighting Kbots today than back then, because of improved skill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 4:54:38 GMT -5
I don’t like current War Robots, just DIESS and MKII. In just 4 months ago, around 10 robots or 30-40 difference builds have their role or advantage in different situations. You could find Lancelot, Galahad, Gareth, DB/RDB/PDB Griffin, Fury, Carnage, Rogatka, Fujin, Rhino etc in top players in 4 months ago, now just DIESS all the way. You can start a new account. I like the challenge, but that doesn't mean there is skill at the top. There are skilled Legends, and unskilled ones that make up for it with DIE and MKII gear. The difference is pretty huge. I enjoy fighting the skilled Legends with my puny underleveled gear.
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Post by snk on Dec 17, 2017 5:10:20 GMT -5
I don’t like current War Robots, just DIESS and MKII. In just 4 months ago, around 10 robots or 30-40 difference builds have their role or advantage in different situations. You could find Lancelot, Galahad, Gareth, DB/RDB/PDB Griffin, Fury, Carnage, Rogatka, Fujin, Rhino etc in top players in 4 months ago, now just DIESS all the way. You can start a new account. I like the challenge, but that doesn't mean there is skill at the top. There are skilled Legends, and unskilled ones that make up for it with DIE and MKII gear. The difference is pretty huge. I enjoy fighting the skilled Legends with my puny underleveled gear. I made it to iOS Champions League with 9/10 hanger with Rogatka, 3 Griffin and a Galahad (no Lancelot) in August 2017, and haven’t leave Champions League since. I am sure there are more skill player like you which kills MKII DIESS easily with old outdated bots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 6:14:50 GMT -5
Bots and weapons selection associated with their levelling is by far the largest determiner of success. Skill is far less significant and hence overrated. P2W game designers build in the illusion of skill. Did you read my post? I don't have any DIE gear, just legacy bots. When I was around 9.2/10.5, I was 100 points from making Champion. I was gaining lots of points, and moving upward, not downward with all the max level Kbots out there. That means I'm fighting Kbots that are 2 levels higher than me. You don't need MKII or Kbots. I'm better at fighting Kbots today than back then, because of improved skill. Looking at your profile, IF your main account is Ultimate Terminator (as stated in your profile) you seem to have an almost maxed hangar (every weapon is L11 or 12) and you are in Expert 2. I am in Expert 1, over 4000 points, with the same average damage with L9 bots and weapons. Maybe you are not as skilled as you think, but you seem to consider every other player "unskilled". I'm sure you are a good player, but please stop talking about skill everytime in such a P2W environment. Of course most Expert players are not as skilled as Champions, but in a good number of cases they are limited by their hangar. No way you're going to win against Mk2 DIESS hangars if you have L9 old stuff, no matter the skill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 7:53:01 GMT -5
Did you read my post? I don't have any DIE gear, just legacy bots. When I was around 9.2/10.5, I was 100 points from making Champion. I was gaining lots of points, and moving upward, not downward with all the max level Kbots out there. That means I'm fighting Kbots that are 2 levels higher than me. You don't need MKII or Kbots. I'm better at fighting Kbots today than back then, because of improved skill. Looking at your profile, IF your main account is Ultimate Terminator (as stated in your profile) you seem to have an almost maxed hangar (every weapon is L11 or 12) and you are in Expert 2. I am in Expert 1, over 4000 points, with the same average damage with L9 bots and weapons. Maybe you are not as skilled as you think, but you seem to consider every other player "unskilled". I'm sure you are a good player, but please stop talking about skill everytime in such a P2W environment. Of course most Expert players are not as skilled as Champions, but in a good number of cases they are limited by their hangar. No way you're going to win against Mk2 DIESS hangars if you have L9 old stuff, no matter the skill. I'm not an Expert, I've reached Master1, so I consider myself Master. Just because I play a different account, doesn't mean I'm a lower level player all of a sudden. I've said many times before that I switched accounts, so you can check the logs. UT is my main, but I am not in control of it right now so I haven't played it in months. Even though I consider it my main, I don't own it either (I know, confusing), that's why I have my smurf account that I control that many would consider it their main, but I don't since I never spent the time to level it up and I use it kinda like the 6pack league. If you check the activity level on UT, it is pretty low. I switched accounts so I could earn Ag for my clanmate, so it's not my account to give out the information. A lot of times, we steal damage from each other so it is lower than it should be. But rest assured, that that player is as skilled as me if not more. I will talk about skill because many choose to discount it when it's the opposite. Many have already defined what skill is, so I won't have to define it and don't want to. So I'll just say, it seems weird for people to say 'it takes skill to do so-and-so with this type of hanger', and then in the next sentence to say 'there is no skill'. After almost reaching Champion with 9.2/10.5 hanger, one of my goals was to do it again with a 4 slot 9/9 hanger. I did check the dmg logs of about 20 Expert players, and I didn't see any that had close to my avg dmg. Maybe there is one, but constructing a chart would help put skill into perspective. I'd say too, that the avg bot/weapon levels are close to mine. But just so you know, you can't compare damage across tiers. At one point, my smurf account had almost as much dmg as my regular account (or main, non-main whatever you want to call it). There are more skilled players than me, so I am always looking to improve. But you're right, with the hanger I have now, I'd probably have to reach at least 900K avg dmg before it's special.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 19, 2017 13:58:56 GMT -5
I didn’t drop much. E3to D1. I focus on beacons and winning rather than high damage. I don’t usually level my bots or weapons much above 8-10. After the tourney I may go for high damage for awhile to see where I land. Manipulation none the less. Not that I care. I disagree, at least if you mean manipulative in a pejorative sense (which your second sentence implies -- why mention it if you do not see it as a negative?).. I enjhoy running different bots and weapons and that is easiest to do if everything is 8-10 and you stay in D/E leagues. There are plenty of situations where a lower damage bot is better than a higher damage bot, so running them is not a problem so long as you do not care if you are high dam and move up in league. The net result is that instead of running same bots all the time b/c otherwise I will get shredded or T/C far weaker foes, I simply maintain at an equilibrium by keeping most of my bots and weapons in an 8-10 range and running lighter bots or bots that are powerful but lower level (like my bulg or hover).
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Post by hon_shu on Dec 19, 2017 15:25:59 GMT -5
Got into iOS Champions League since August, highest League rating before DIESS was around 7000. Since DIESS, League ratings still around 5600-6000. Play a few games everyday (iOS account) from beginning of this season, rating reached 5300, drop to 5000 rating just these 2-3 days and the game matched me with so much DIESS. Had quite a few games today, 11/12 players start with Dash or Inquisitors except me. May be Champions League is almost exclusive to Real $$ player in iOS. I won’t get the Bulgasari from my iOS account, because I just managed to complete the event task on GR account few hours ago. I want to know the skill player without DIESS or MKII in iOS, what rating can you reach at current situation? I can barely stay in ios Champions League with my 10.5/11.5 none DIESS HANGER. Jon Game Center certainly checks the boxes "Highly skilled", "No DIESS", "No MkII", and "on iOS". He runs maxed (level 12) stuff, though. And he makes great Youtube videos, too:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 18:55:58 GMT -5
Got into iOS Champions League since August, highest League rating before DIESS was around 7000. Since DIESS, League ratings still around 5600-6000. Play a few games everyday (iOS account) from beginning of this season, rating reached 5300, drop to 5000 rating just these 2-3 days and the game matched me with so much DIESS. Had quite a few games today, 11/12 players start with Dash or Inquisitors except me. May be Champions League is almost exclusive to Real $$ player in iOS. I won’t get the Bulgasari from my iOS account, because I just managed to complete the event task on GR account few hours ago. I want to know the skill player without DIESS or MKII in iOS, what rating can you reach at current situation? I can barely stay in ios Champions League with my 10.5/11.5 none DIESS HANGER. Jon Game Center certainly checks the boxes "Highly skilled", "No DIESS", "No MkII", and "on iOS". He runs maxed (level 12) stuff, though. And he makes great Youtube videos, too: Yep. He does it with running 2 or more DB Griffins in his line up too. I'd actually be interested in seeing him live stream, or a longer play session. It's easy to show off your 1M+ games, but it's the low scoring ones where I learn the most about my mistakes. To answer the Op's question, looking at Jon's profile, he has 7705 league points, 1368 activity, and 742K avg dmg. His activity is not very high compared to all the Legends, but his skill is higher than a lot of the MKII Whale wielding ones. Since the change in MM on iOS a week ago, the avg dmg has sunken a lot for some. I actually rose, and absolutely demolished my previous high by 100K so far, and still rising albeit much more slowly now. When I make it to Champion with legacy hanger, non MKII, I will post a scouting report of how it is up there. I already feel kinda rusty not being matched up against Champions as much, so that's a good and bad thing.
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