New MM looks pretty bad for none DIESS hanger

Perhaps the D.I.E.S.S. items were intentionally meant to better define the upper leagues... the Ancilots are pushed down to Master League. When the new Robots conmes out, the Chapions will have Exorcist and Striders... The Dashes will be pushed to The Master League... The Master Leaguers will becone the new Experts. Rinse and repeat, meet the new boss, same as the old boss

The reason Champions on iOS just got harder is because you are no longer or rarely matched with Experts. This helped me to get from low E2 to low E1 over the last 4 days.

You will probably sink to the level where you are just competitive while I rise to the level where I am just competitive. Right now I am kicking arse because the previous MM kept matching me against max guys. Now I am finding DIESS getting more common as I see more Masters. Most Experts don't have DIESS or Mk2.

LOL you act like keeping up with the current meta is a walk in the park, smh. Unless you are an unbelievable grinder you are forking out a ?poo-poo? load of cash.

I actually dropped a little when the Kbots first came out. Then I went from M3 to within 100 points of Champion. This is back when I was still 9.2/10.5 and before MKII was out. I didn't even optimize my hanger back then, as my hanger is geared for more anti-Kbot this week until the latest change in MM again.

A lot of the high dmg scores in Legend hangers is due to state-sponsored clubbing of Experts with much lower skill. If you look at the Legends now, there's a small drop in dmg output, and some took a huge dive with the change. So I'd say the new MM is working, and it should have been like this from the beginning. Besides the Shocktrain, all the new DIE stuff is counterable by skill and legacy stuff, so I expect to make it back up. It's much harder to improve skill, so I don't expect much to change even with the release of MKII and the Hover bot. 

I broke a new high score last night, and will probably top my high avg dmg score too.

I understand most Experts don't have the skill to match up against Champions, let alone a Kbot hanger full of them.  Even before the release of MKII, there were many 12/12 hangers stuck in Expert. I'd say this is the norm now in Expert2 or E1, to be 12/12. I don't know why it took them this long to make this change, over 3 months since the release of the Kbots. It was clearly needed before the Kbots. 

Free stuff I have gotten from pix in 6 months of playing (not including the Bulgesari I will be getting in a few days): Kumhiho, Lance, Lance, Scourge, Butch x 4x trebs, 3x Tempest, 2x Scourge, 2x shocktrain, storm, 2x carnage, rhino, gareth, 3x orkans, 4x tarans, 3x anciles, 4th hangar spot, 5th hangar spot, second hangar ... and a bunch of silver stuff and other assorted gold and wsp I don't particularly want.  Since I have started playing, they have heavily buffed silver weapons like punishers and molots to the point where they offer credible situational advantages over some of the gold and component weapons (range, 2x vs armor, takes down ancile).

I am all for the community holding the developer accountable but I am also for reason and perspective-taking.

Given my experience, why should I sympathize with ppl who says that Pixo is a bad actor and forces people to P2W?   They haven't been bad actors towards me and they definitely do not have me paying to win.  If anything, they have created reward system that allows them to generate revenue and me to improve gear through regular play.  That is a reasonable exchange and the opposite of a bad faith negotiation.  

From a community standpoint, I find it much better than other games in the field.  Which ones are there that have a better model?  None, WoT, which may or may not ever get released and a bunch of crap that is far more P2W than this game is from what I have seen.  One of the big reasons I enjoy the game is that it is not P2W in the sense or degree that many/most other games are. You can compete at basically every level of this game except for a very thin slice of C level without paying to win and personally, esp. lately, I have no real problems with MM.

As to your point about unhappy people, the best suggestion I can give is that ppl who do not actually enjoy the game would probably be happier finding something else to do instead of keep playing and complaining about something they claim not to like. 


Pix is better than pretty much any of the other software developers I have seen in that space. Yes, they take advantage of human vices -- mostly greed and desire to dominate -- and use it to exploit suckers or ppl who are simply willing to pay, but when I compare the game to 99 percent of all of the other games I have tried, it is awesome on many levels.

I think that ppl were rightly angry over the dash rollout but to Pixo's credit, they appear to have hit on a revenue stream that allows them to reward regular players with better gear while still engaging in a churn of new bots that I think will keep the game fresh and interesting.  

Stay up at what cost? $10k or $20k ..... or what per year?

The dash rollout is not in the rear view mirror bc most not paying players probably had a chance of getting 0 or 1 dash bot. 

This is whole thing is not fiction because people's time and money is involved. It is just as real as a virtual server that runs this forum and what most of the internet is running on. 

Frequent cyclic releases of op stuff is not the best way for a company to make money as evidenced by top gaming companies revenue results. 

I didn’t drop much.  E3to D1.   I focus on beacons and winning rather than high damage. I don’t usually level my bots or weapons much above 8-10 because I like to run different bots with a lot of different weapon loads.  After the tourney I may go for high damage for awhile to see where I land.  

I don’t like current War Robots, just DIESS and MKII. In just 4 months ago, around 10 robots or 30-40 difference builds have their role or advantage in different situations. You could find Lancelot, Galahad, Gareth, DB/RDB/PDB Griffin, Fury, Carnage, Rogatka, Fujin, Rhino etc in top players in 4 months ago, now just DIESS all the way.

You can start a new account. I like the challenge, but that doesn't mean there is skill at the top. There are skilled Legends, and unskilled ones that make up for it with DIE and MKII gear. The difference is pretty huge. I enjoy fighting the skilled Legends with my puny underleveled gear. 

Looking at your profile, IF your main account is Ultimate Terminator (as stated in your profile) you seem to have an almost maxed hangar (every weapon is L11 or 12) and you are in Expert 2. I am in Expert 1, over 4000 points, with the same average damage with L9 bots and weapons. Maybe you are not as skilled as you think, but you seem to consider every other player "unskilled". I'm sure you are a good player, but please stop talking about skill everytime in such a P2W environment.

Of course most Expert players are not as skilled as Champions, but in a good number of cases they are limited by their hangar. No way you're going to win against Mk2 DIESS hangars if you have L9 old stuff, no matter the skill.

I disagree, at least if you mean manipulative in a pejorative sense (which your second sentence implies -- why mention it if you do not see it as a negative?)..   

I enjhoy running different bots and weapons and that is easiest to do if everything is 8-10 and you stay in D/E leagues.  There are plenty of situations where a lower damage bot is better than a higher damage bot, so running them is not a problem so long as you do not care if you are high dam and move up in league.  The net result is that instead of running same bots all the time b/c otherwise I will get shredded or T/C far weaker foes, I simply maintain at an equilibrium by keeping most of my bots and weapons in an 8-10 range and running lighter bots or bots that are powerful but lower level (like my bulg or hover).