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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 18, 2017 4:23:32 GMT -5
Agreed,there are ways to take it down. I dont see any other way to nerf it under the set parameters except making it slower and even more brittle.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 18, 2017 4:26:38 GMT -5
Yeah, if they slow the thing down to Griffin speed, I feel it is balanced. I think the move speed is too high right now, so there is a lack of counterplay. Agreed. And thats still BEFORE shocktrains enter the picture.... Edit: methinks they should remove jump and stealth. They can keep the speed but Getting high ground with a load out like that does not allow for much counterplay. Remove jump and stealth would be a least possible adjustment because this is obviously the 2nd bot of the Descend series. Ah, and the bots always comes in a Trio ever since the Brit bot series. I guess there is a 3rd Descend bot following.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 18, 2017 5:03:15 GMT -5
Agreed. And thats still BEFORE shocktrains enter the picture.... Edit: methinks they should remove jump and stealth. They can keep the speed but Getting high ground with a load out like that does not allow for much counterplay. Remove jump and stealth would be a least possible adjustment because this is obviously the 2nd bot of the Descend series. Ah, and the bots always comes in a Trio ever since the Brit bot series. I guess there is a 3rd Descend bot following. Inquisitor (heavy).....exorcist (medium).....uh...evangelist? (light) I wouldnt mind a light bot with 4 light hardpoints and decent movement and an ability...
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Post by Bui Dui on Dec 18, 2017 6:49:37 GMT -5
Lol, too funny, reasonably priced! That ship sailed after Brit Bots were introduced. Lance is 50 bucks to buy outright, it's a shame I'd have to say compared to the new stuff that his cash price is "reasonable". We may have very different views on what that word means, but you can bet it would cost more than what's available now. To be fair to both, the developers & the players, I think $100 is reasonable..... 100 RUB, maybe, not $
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Post by justsomeguy on Dec 18, 2017 7:37:40 GMT -5
Inquisitor (heavy).....exorcist (medium).....uh...evangelist? (light) I wouldnt mind a light bot with 4 light hardpoints and decent movement and an ability... There are light hardpoints in this game? What you will get is a new game-breaking light bot with 4 mediums, superior movement, and jump with ability.
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Post by ManO' War on Dec 18, 2017 13:27:48 GMT -5
Not to mention if they're components it's going to dilute the component pool further making the components you've been trying to get even harder to collect... Maybe that doesn't matter because my 67% of Inquisitor will be obsolete before I finish it. Agreed. The green mile has become the green marathon when it comes to farming components for a Haechi or Bulg. I have 3 level 1 Storms now and almost a 2nd Hover...Thanks Pixo.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 18, 2017 14:58:00 GMT -5
Not to mention if they're components it's going to dilute the component pool further making the components you've been trying to get even harder to collect... Maybe that doesn't matter because my 67% of Inquisitor will be obsolete before I finish it. Agreed. The green mile has become the green marathon when it comes to farming components for a Haechi or Bulg. I have 3 level 1 Storms now and almost a 2nd Hover...Thanks Pixo. You can become the hover lord, king of the skies.
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the Expanse!
Destrier
Posts: 36
Karma: 21
Pilot name: the Expanse!
Platform: Android
Clan: Hard Corps [H★C]
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
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Post by the Expanse! on Dec 18, 2017 15:03:52 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts however we need some basis for laying them down. Is this bot (Exorcist) going to be part of the Inquisitor family? If so, then 3-4xlight points NO Medium, increase cooldown from 20->25 secs for descend. Speed from 58 -> 45 LVL 8. Give it a very slight buff to HP, maybe +3000 If it's not an inquisitor family bot, remove descend and give it 18-20 second cool down jump and 4 light spots. I don't like the fact of any robot completely out competing another bot. I.e Rhino doesn't out compete a Griffin, it offers another skill as a trade off. Unfortunately 4xlight points is over the top. Maybe 3 light points would be better (leaving the Patton space alone) And that's where you (and most other posters in this thread) are mistaken and what's actually going wrong with the development of this game: A) The bot's hard points and abilities are not up for discussion, neither here nor anywhere else, nor are they being tested on the test server. This robot will hit the live server in exactly this layout (and based on past experience within the next five weeks). B) There is zero incentive or willingness for Pixonic to balance the new bots against the old ones (like Patton). The new ones will be just better, like Haechi was just better than Carnage or Fujin (or any other bot for that matter). This. The Exorcist will be a premium bot (Dashes/Inquisitor). As such, it's hard points and special abilities will not change. Like all premium bots, it's strengths are speed, fire power, and assault. Premium bots were not designed to be balanced/countered by Ag/Au/WSP bots. They were designed to be better....much better than Ag/Au/WSP bots. That said, I would recommend some changes to the Exorcist to improve and/or add better counter play for other premium bots...namely decrease ground speed by 15% and decrease HP by 10%.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 18, 2017 15:48:38 GMT -5
I'm still probably months away from a dash in my hangar. These things go live as they are before I've farmed my first dash bot, I will just quit right then and there. It's hard enough getting motivated to grind now; that will just be the last straw for me.
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Post by anjian on Dec 19, 2017 2:11:35 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the Hellburner?
Are they still going through with it? Hypothesis: Scrapped, the model re-used for Strider by adding a second light slot and a dash ability.
Random thoughts on the Boa reconstruct.
I like it, but I wonder if they can make a new bot out of it with 1 heavy, 2 medium slots, with maybe a run ability.
I like the name 'Evangelist' for a third jump-stealth bot on the light side. I can imagine it with four light slots instead. I always imagine the game has an opening for a jumping four light slot bot.
Other names I can think of:
Priest Disciple Acolyte Apostle
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Post by Bui Dui on Dec 20, 2017 10:09:08 GMT -5
This bot looks too small for all those weapons, not to say just plain stupid. Small weapons would look good on it (on its top, at least), but not medium. From this i can't imagine it being able to jump or be that fast at all.
Realism (sort of) is what attracted me to this game, so i very dislike things that look like they violate rules of physics or don't make sense (Storm size, Shocktrain mechanics, aphid rockets disappearing in thin air when shooter is killed, dash ability (bot feet don't move accordingly), Haechi design). It's what made this game different and it is something that every mecha game must have.
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Post by TheWWRNerdGuy on Dec 22, 2017 4:08:44 GMT -5
This bot looks too small for all those weapons, not to say just plain stupid. Small weapons would look good on it (on its top, at least), but not medium. From this i can't imagine it being able to jump or be that fast at all. Realism (sort of) is what attracted me to this game, so i very dislike things that look like they violate rules of physics or don't make sense (Storm size, Shocktrain mechanics, aphid rockets disappearing in thin air when shooter is killed, dash ability (bot feet don't move accordingly), Haechi design). It's what made this game different and it is something that every mecha game must have. I have actually been hit by Aphids from dead robots. And I have hit people from the grave with Aphids. The former happens more frequently.
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