RUIN squad Tanking Elo together

That's some of the ruin guys, that used to have wave after wave of gephard's w/lvl 12 mag, piñata and aphids in low silver. No need to move from home beacon the game was spent defending it. I recognize some of those names. I played Iow silver a lot, after I got fed up with high gold. Until new mm came online and I went back to gold.

Always dreaded seeing them.

How did blue win the second game ?

And since they are all starting strong Elos they are expected to win, maybe bigger Elo drop.  And guarantees loss, no risk of teammates surviving despite the disadvantage you left them and winning causing your Elo to rise.

If they are tanking in order to club, they don't care about teammates they screw on the way down.

 Sucks to be Z, capped a beacon and didn't even get any gold. 

We are trying to equalize our matchmaker scores by bottoming out and coming back up together, so that we can actually squad together again and not get crazy matches. As a predominantly silver clan, the new MM has totally broken our ability to squad with one another and not be horribly mismatched. I don't want to get into details, but those of us who play silver cannot play with those of us who play gold and be effective. As a predominantly silver clan, this is extremely problematic. And so this is the best solution we have found thus far so that those of us that play different hangers can still go down to "faux silver tier" and play together.

Within hours of doing this we see posts on the FB players page and here, seriously, SO MUCH SALT. We just want to be able to play together again.

Seems what we have here are some of those "alternative facts" that are all the rage theses days.

If RUIN wanted to squad together, they would just have to match bot/wep lvls. I'm simply not buying " were tanking to zero to play together". The only thing that makes sense to me is dropping your Elo to club again.

There's nothing noble about 6 pilots tanking as a clan just to gain an advantage later on.

I was a Thunder Schutze clubber (yes, it's still clubbing with 4/6 Thunder Schutzes) for the first year I played the game.  There's no moral high ground in upclubbing with Schutzes - I just didn't believe that spending 5K Au, 50K WSP, and the silver to level 15 L12 Mags was worth spending just to earn Au.  If I thought Mag Geps were worth it, I would have used them - but they were consistently proven not to be.

All that aside, tanking games on purpose is WAY below seal clubbing.  You are screwing the pilots on the other team by giving them zero damages.  Good pilots work hard for their average damage stats and most view them as the most important stat at this point.  Bottom line us that you are hurting other people.

Seal clubbing was allowed by Pixonic and I took advantage of it.  Tanking games on purpose is neither accepted by other pilots or by Pixonic.  

I know this is just a game, but how you deal with other people online is not different than who you are in life.  If you think what your are doing is okay and justifiable, then the MM not being noble is the least of your problems in life.

Anyone got a screenshot of the 67k Penalty being applied yet?

Well, the MM would just have taken the best MM from the squad and gone from there.  So, you would have been squading up around the Gold players hanger.  Just like every other squad out there.  

Just all equip a silver hanger and the MM would have given you appropriate matches.  Your "equalizing your matchmakers" is only accomplishing screwing a ton of people over in the process and then clubbing the crap out of people.  My guess is your squad started tanking again before your Elos rise to where they should actually be.... Once a clubber always a clubber, eh?

Most of that is noise of the MM right now, people doing this crap and trying to tank their Elos is just making it worse for everyone.  



So, while your squad was tanking, twice the six people on my team had our Elo's buffed up, possibly without warrant, throwing us into matches beyond us and causing more turbulence.

If you guys were all clubbing in silver, you should be able to equip roughly equal strength hangers and do just fine.  Hell, our squad varied from 10/11 to 8/8 and we were doing just fine squadding around and winning a solid 50% of our matches.  Occasion matches against a TT Squad, but that is the MM's preference for squad vs squad and happened under the old MM too.

That is not how it works.  This is by far the quickest and most efficient way of being able to squad with our silver hangers and also be able to catch other silver clans doing similar things.  Realistically, this is probably a stop gap solution until the silver players who haven't already outright quit the game, can reformulate their hangers into a competent gold setup.  Also, the opposing team gets free gold for just sticking around for a few seconds, so whatever.

Is it abuse of the system? yes... Is it kinda cowardly? Probably.

However, at least they are doing it as a full squad. That is at least being considerate.
Some others were doing it in squads of 2-4. This means that randoms thrown in with them were left in the lurch and at the mercy of a 2v6 matchup. Now THAT is an even more scum move.

Guys, calm down.

Thanks Strayed. We've all got a good sense of humour in this forum and in RUIN. There's been a lot of banter between RUIN and TECH that has had a paparazzi style beat-up because of a few jokes about seal clubbing in our clan bios, ever since RUIN went number 1 with first the pumpkins and then the snowflake events. We're just suckers for any old gimmick. Being number 1 in anything puts a big target on your back in any game, but that's life. We're all grown-ups in RUIN, so we can play the role of the heel, if that's how it's gonna be.

Me and BooBoo/#stillclubbing are on the forum discord, so hit us up if you'd like to squad with us, or chat with us.

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